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I'll email you a copy of last years Scottish regs which will point you in the right direction - a spitfire eh? First car after I passed my test (many moons ago!) Ah, those races with Midgets ...
You'll get an MSA blue book when you apply for your licence, so that will put you right on which standrad for helpmets et al.
Where are you? Probably a friendly scrutineer I can point you to too, on th eniceties on what they like to see and what gives them hysteria!!
Also - have a look at www.scottish-hillclimbing.co.uk
No doubt there will be more speed people along soon!!
You'll get an MSA blue book when you apply for your licence, so that will put you right on which standrad for helpmets et al.
Where are you? Probably a friendly scrutineer I can point you to too, on th eniceties on what they like to see and what gives them hysteria!!
Also - have a look at www.scottish-hillclimbing.co.uk
No doubt there will be more speed people along soon!!
mattius said:
Im at the stage now where it just needs some paint and a last few bits and pieces but i just need to work out if it fits in with the regulations, clearences of the roll bar etc.
If you run the Spitfire as a fully road legal car, the regulations are not too severe - you don't even need a rolover bar (but it is strongly recommended).What year is your Spitfire? There is a class for Classic and Thoroughbred Sports cars pre-1965 and also a class for post 1965. Failing that there is the Marque sports cars (but you would be up against Exiges
)minitici said:
There is a class for Classic and Thoroughbred Sports cars pre-1965 and also a class for post 1965. Failing that there is the Marque sports cars (but you would be up against Exiges )
Actually, the age limit for Classics is much later (1973) and will change for 2008 to allow some slightly younger cars in (i.e. the Sunbeam Lotus). It also says 'or of a type made prior to that date' which means late-model Spits, Spridgets and Bs can run in that class as they date back to the Ark... )minitici said:
There is a class for Classic and Thoroughbred Sports cars pre-1965 and also a class for post 1965. Failing that there is the Marque sports cars (but you would be up against Exiges )
Actually, the age limit for Classics is much later (1973) and will change for 2008 to allow some slightly younger cars in (i.e. the Sunbeam Lotus). It also says 'or of a type made prior to that date' which means late-model Spits, Spridgets and Bs can run in that class as they date back to the Ark... )Broomsticklady said:
minitici said:
There is a class for Classic and Thoroughbred Sports cars pre-1965 and also a class for post 1965. Failing that there is the Marque sports cars (but you would be up against Exiges )
Actually, the age limit for Classics is much later (1973) and will change for 2008 to allow some slightly younger cars in (i.e. the Sunbeam Lotus). It also says 'or of a type made prior to that date' which means late-model Spits, Spridgets and Bs can run in that class as they date back to the Ark... )
The spitfire i have now is a 1980 1500, which laughably were first made in 1974 just after your cutt off date.
The modifications made to the car so far are:
Ported, Flowed head with major skim and the biggest valves i could get.
Electric Water pump
Electric Ignition ( Megajolt )
AVO Shocks all round
Performance Manifold
Performance Exhaust System
FIA Spec (Fabricage) Roll Cage
FIA Hom 4 point drivers harness
Grooved and Vented Disks
Brake Servo ( not got full strength in my left leg so needed )
Corbeau Sprint Seats
hundreds of other little mods
Im not sure if the megajolt will be ok or the water pump. Im also going to put twin dellorto 40s on it if they will be ok.
The modifications made to the car so far are:
Ported, Flowed head with major skim and the biggest valves i could get.
Electric Water pump
Electric Ignition ( Megajolt )
AVO Shocks all round
Performance Manifold
Performance Exhaust System
FIA Spec (Fabricage) Roll Cage
FIA Hom 4 point drivers harness
Grooved and Vented Disks
Brake Servo ( not got full strength in my left leg so needed )
Corbeau Sprint Seats
hundreds of other little mods
Im not sure if the megajolt will be ok or the water pump. Im also going to put twin dellorto 40s on it if they will be ok.
Edited by mattius on Monday 22 October 22:28
Thought id post a few pics of the car.
First up the old one:
Which on a diesel covered road and the wrong tyres in the wet soon became this on the 21st April
Probably causing many of you guys a nightmare journey home from doune that evening as i shut off most of the roads around that area, crashing on the pass of leny. After 3.5hours i was cut free and rushed to stirling. Sorry guys if you got stuck at one of the road blocks.
Doing this to my femur:
And this to my tib and fib:
Combined with a fractured elbow, severed thumb and loosing 6.5 pints of blood ended up being a touch and go few days. Still 2.5 weeks later, a couple of the best surgeons in the country.i was out of hospital and 2 months after that i started rebuilding spit no.2.
All be it with some impressive scars:
and xrays:
First up the old one:
Which on a diesel covered road and the wrong tyres in the wet soon became this on the 21st April
Probably causing many of you guys a nightmare journey home from doune that evening as i shut off most of the roads around that area, crashing on the pass of leny. After 3.5hours i was cut free and rushed to stirling. Sorry guys if you got stuck at one of the road blocks.
Doing this to my femur:
And this to my tib and fib:
Combined with a fractured elbow, severed thumb and loosing 6.5 pints of blood ended up being a touch and go few days. Still 2.5 weeks later, a couple of the best surgeons in the country.i was out of hospital and 2 months after that i started rebuilding spit no.2.
All be it with some impressive scars:
and xrays:
The new one:
in 3 months i have completely rebuilt, re-bodyshelled and improved the 2nd spit to the stage im at now of trying to find someone who will paint the thing not to concours standards but just cheap and chearfull for racing.
Car sitting very high here as it was the first time in 3 months it was off the axle stands.
12kg of mig welding wire, 11 bodypanels, 2 new doors and a new bootlid and a budget funded by health insurance money and im almost ready to go.
Sorry for the long drawn out posts, but tis quite a story and i've even impressed myself to get this far in such a short period of time.
in 3 months i have completely rebuilt, re-bodyshelled and improved the 2nd spit to the stage im at now of trying to find someone who will paint the thing not to concours standards but just cheap and chearfull for racing.
Car sitting very high here as it was the first time in 3 months it was off the axle stands.
12kg of mig welding wire, 11 bodypanels, 2 new doors and a new bootlid and a budget funded by health insurance money and im almost ready to go.
Sorry for the long drawn out posts, but tis quite a story and i've even impressed myself to get this far in such a short period of time.
Edited by mattius on Tuesday 23 October 00:30
Broomsticklady said:
minitici said:
There is a class for Classic and Thoroughbred Sports cars pre-1965 and also a class for post 1965. Failing that there is the Marque sports cars (but you would be up against Exiges )
Actually, the age limit for Classics is much later (1973) and will change for 2008 to allow some slightly younger cars in (i.e. the Sunbeam Lotus). It also says 'or of a type made prior to that date' which means late-model Spits, Spridgets and Bs can run in that class as they date back to the Ark... )Within the Road Car Division, the Classic & Thoroughbred Car class is open to cars manufactured prior to 1 January 1976, or of a type that was in production prior to that date.
As per Broomsticklady's advice, speak to a scrutineer but if the car is road legal it should (note, word "should"!) be ok.
GAC (Grampian Automobile Club) run Fintray and Alford - I would join GAC and one other club such as Caithness, Monklands or Lothian to get a wide spread of info.
A visit to www.gac.org.uk or www.dounehillclimb.co.uk is worth a visit.
Licence is a National Non-race B from Motorsports Association (MSA). Be aware that the Blue Book (regulations) does not apply exactly in Scotland and their are variations in some aspects.
GAC (Grampian Automobile Club) run Fintray and Alford - I would join GAC and one other club such as Caithness, Monklands or Lothian to get a wide spread of info.
A visit to www.gac.org.uk or www.dounehillclimb.co.uk is worth a visit.
Licence is a National Non-race B from Motorsports Association (MSA). Be aware that the Blue Book (regulations) does not apply exactly in Scotland and their are variations in some aspects.
Just a word of warning about the Classic and Thoroughbred class, only "period" modifications are allowed.
And a bit off topic I know but is it not about time there was a forum on the Scottish hillclimb and sprint site for this type of thing and other general speed stuff.
I think there must be 20+ "speed people"on here.
And a bit off topic I know but is it not about time there was a forum on the Scottish hillclimb and sprint site for this type of thing and other general speed stuff.
I think there must be 20+ "speed people"on here.
tuscan_thunder said:
As per Broomsticklady's advice, speak to a scrutineer but if the car is road legal it should (note, word "should"!) be ok.
GAC (Grampian Automobile Club) run Fintray and Alford - I would join GAC and one other club such as Caithness, Monklands or Lothian to get a wide spread of info.
A visit to www.gac.org.uk or www.dounehillclimb.co.uk is worth a visit.
Licence is a National Non-race B from Motorsports Association (MSA). Be aware that the Blue Book (regulations) does not apply exactly in Scotland and their are variations in some aspects.
Don't forget Aberdeen and District Motor Club who run sprints ar Alford and Boyndie, and East Ayrshire Car Club who own Kames sprint circuit and run most of the events there.GAC (Grampian Automobile Club) run Fintray and Alford - I would join GAC and one other club such as Caithness, Monklands or Lothian to get a wide spread of info.
A visit to www.gac.org.uk or www.dounehillclimb.co.uk is worth a visit.
Licence is a National Non-race B from Motorsports Association (MSA). Be aware that the Blue Book (regulations) does not apply exactly in Scotland and their are variations in some aspects.
Some of the mods might make A7 (Classics and Thoroughbreds) a problem, but A8 (Marque Sports Cars) looks OK? Just to clarify, the MSA Blue Book does apply in Scotland, as we do run under MSA rules, but the technical regulations for 'Road Cars' in Scotland are quite open compared to elsewhere in the UK. The exception is A7 (period mods only) and A8 (which must meet MSA rules for Production Cars).
fiestajohn said:
Just a word of warning about the Classic and Thoroughbred class, only "period" modifications are allowed.
And a bit off topic I know but is it not about time there was a forum on the Scottish hillclimb and sprint site for this type of thing and other general speed stuff.
I think there must be 20+ "speed people"on here.
I agree John!! And we've asked the webmaster, who's willing to give it a go if we insist but has some major reservations!And a bit off topic I know but is it not about time there was a forum on the Scottish hillclimb and sprint site for this type of thing and other general speed stuff.
I think there must be 20+ "speed people"on here.
Picture posting takes a lot of space / bandwidth which we are not currently paying for / may not be available. Spam spam spam - forums need lots of work to stop being hit by porn / virulent links et al. Moderation - hopefully we'd all behave but there are individuals like me around who sometimes go OTT (you should see the letter I've just crafted - pure vitriol - I did enjoy it - but not for public delectation and some don't have my restraint!).
Current 'plan' is to try and get a sub forum here, so all the hard work of space, modding, spam etc is done for us - the problem is PH is now commercial and they need to be convinced it will generate more punters to the site to bring more advertisers so money...
TheObserver said:
Hi Mattius
If you can make sure your car is eligible for the Classic and Thoroughbred Class this would probably be the best class for you to start in.
It seems that you can simply guess the time you think you will be able to do after you have had the practice runs. Then if you are the nearest to the time you have guessed, you will win the class.
So you do not really need to be fast or even competitive and you will still have as good a chance as anybody of winning.
The Observer
It only works like that at the hillclimbs - on the sprinting side, the scoring for the Classic and Thoroughbred class is the same as other classes, in that there is a class 'bogey' that you score points against.If you can make sure your car is eligible for the Classic and Thoroughbred Class this would probably be the best class for you to start in.
It seems that you can simply guess the time you think you will be able to do after you have had the practice runs. Then if you are the nearest to the time you have guessed, you will win the class.
So you do not really need to be fast or even competitive and you will still have as good a chance as anybody of winning.
The Observer
TheObserver said:
The thread is "Talk to me about starting to hill climb"
The Observer
And you will find that many people don't know of the other related discipline, or think they only want to try one but when they sample the other prefer that - just requires an open mind, and having an awareness of other possibilities is surely no bad thing?The Observer
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