Who would you have?

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Muzzer

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3,814 posts

222 months

Wednesday 14th November 2007
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So, since the demise of the 'dream team' at Ferrari the perceived "geniuses" in the pit lane has been rather spread out amongst all the teams, instead of in a 'big two' or 'big three'

If you were a team boss who would you think is most crucial to a successful team?

Adrian Newey - Red Bull
Geoff Willis - Red Bull
Ross Brawn - Honda
Pat Symonds - Renault
Fernando Alonso - On the dole
Lewis Hamilton - McLaren
Nigel Stepney - Currently Banished
Aldo Costa - Ferrari

Personally, out of the lot I'd want Brawn. A ship without a decent captain is in the rocks...biggrin

M3ax

1,291 posts

213 months

Wednesday 14th November 2007
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I'd agree with Braun. Of the drivers, I rate both Alonso and Hamilton but maybe Hamilton for the long term.

130R

6,810 posts

207 months

Wednesday 14th November 2007
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Brawn but I think Adrian Newey has done a good job with Red Bull, just a shame they are not more reliable.

kevin ritson

3,423 posts

228 months

Wednesday 14th November 2007
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The great thing about it is that you can't just pick a name from the list - being human, they need suitable conditions. So Newey needs freedom, Alonso attention and Brawn a muse, for example. Put them all in the same team and you'd have a big row.

Muzzer

Original Poster:

3,814 posts

222 months

Wednesday 14th November 2007
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kevin ritson said:
The great thing about it is that you can't just pick a name from the list - being human, they need suitable conditions. So Newey needs freedom, Alonso attention and Brawn a muse, for example. Put them all in the same team and you'd have a big row.
Quite true, but say for example you're a billionaire who's just bought Super Aguri.

You have a budget for the team that allows one person from the list with the conditions they require in order to improve the team's fortunes.
Who are you going to choose? biggrin

Ahonen

5,017 posts

280 months

Wednesday 14th November 2007
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M3ax said:
I'd agree with Braun.
Brawn could make good use of a Braun for the 'is-it-a-beard-or-isn't-it' scrawny thing that's been attached to his face for the last few years.

Undoubtedly good at what he does, but I'm not a fan.

kevin ritson

3,423 posts

228 months

Wednesday 14th November 2007
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Muzzer said:
You have a budget for the team that allows one person from the list with the conditions they require in order to improve the team's fortunes.
Who are you going to choose? biggrin
Using the time-honoured deduction method,

Adrian Newey - better as a free spirit, inspiring a team of designers and would need a medium-large team to be able to cope with the complexity of his concepts (eg: Toro Rosso's struggles this year)
Geoff Willis - He may have issues with Honda but did a good job before his replacement, profile isn't too high, gets on with it. A good choice.
Ross Brawn - Would need to team up with a promising driver, perhaps too early for the team.
Pat Symonds - Potential good choice - grew up with Toleman/Benetton/Renault. Would have the need to prove himself outside of that support network but maybe too set in those ways now? Perhaps I'm selling him short.
Fernando Alonso - Would need a car capable of winning and a drain on resources
Lewis Hamilton - See Alonso
Nigel Stepney - Unlikely to be allowed back into F1 but if he was, would have something to prove, but may need to be the centre of attention
Aldo Costa - Bit of an unknown still, needs to make more of a name for himself and prove it's him, not the rest of Ferrari. May have taken the title this year but it was more luck than judgement.

flemke

22,865 posts

238 months

Wednesday 14th November 2007
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kevin ritson said:
The great thing about it is that you can't just pick a name from the list - being human, they need suitable conditions. So Newey needs freedom, Alonso attention and Brawn a muse, for example. Put them all in the same team and you'd have a big row.
I would have said that Newey needs freedom, Brawn needs a muse, and Alonso needs a fuse.

Muzzer

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3,814 posts

222 months

Wednesday 14th November 2007
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flemke said:
kevin ritson said:
The great thing about it is that you can't just pick a name from the list - being human, they need suitable conditions. So Newey needs freedom, Alonso attention and Brawn a muse, for example. Put them all in the same team and you'd have a big row.
I would have said that Newey needs freedom, Brawn needs a muse, and Alonso needs a good kick up the arse and someone to tell him to stop whining like a girl and start doing his job.
EFA

uktrailmonster

4,827 posts

201 months

Wednesday 14th November 2007
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Rory Byrne should be on that list too.

NightDriver

1,080 posts

227 months

Thursday 15th November 2007
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uktrailmonster said:
Rory Byrne should be no.1 on that list too.
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Finchy172

389 posts

220 months

Thursday 15th November 2007
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Martin Whitmarsh?

Id have Newey and Brawn.
Teamed with a driver such as Hamilton or Raikkonen as my dream team!

kevin ritson

3,423 posts

228 months

Thursday 15th November 2007
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uktrailmonster said:
Rory Byrne should be on that list too.
Seeing as he's retired we'd better add John Barnard and Gordon Murray too

paulmurr

4,203 posts

213 months

Thursday 15th November 2007
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Dave Richards...?

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