Tvr Sagaris vs Lambo/Ferrari
Discussion
Just sold my '99 Cerb and standard engine it was quicker than the 360 I've just got however the handling as standard on the 360 is much better and it has a hand brake that isn't just for decoration it actually does work. 
I liked the interior in my cerb better but that can be changed.
I liked the interior in my cerb better but that can be changed.
The Sag on paper is quicker, but doesn't feel it. The TVR is a fantastic drive, and I personally would rather jump into our Sag and go for a burn than the 360, though this may sound like sacrilege to many of you. The Sag sounds great, handles great, looks awesome and frankly has proved to be a lot more reliable than any Ferrari I have worked with. On the down side, the engine needs to be looked after, and there is always the chance you will get a bad one! The rear end touches down regularly (more than the front strangely), it smells like a canoe factory, the alarm goes of if you give the car a dirty look,it's bloody hot inside if the AC packs in and you definately need to get chip film all over the bloody thing, as the tyres throw debris at all the exposed bodywork. That said, it is a real head turner, very quick and great fun to drive.
Sag's are a performance bargain now - £30k plus (maybe less) will see you into a 1-2 year old car. 360's are a lot more expensive for a much older car, but do have the obvious merit of the badge and that glorious sound, as well as being a lovely easy everyday drive.
I guess it depends on what you will be using it for, but the TVR will be a lot cheaper to buy/ own, and they are brilliant machines....
Sag's are a performance bargain now - £30k plus (maybe less) will see you into a 1-2 year old car. 360's are a lot more expensive for a much older car, but do have the obvious merit of the badge and that glorious sound, as well as being a lovely easy everyday drive.
I guess it depends on what you will be using it for, but the TVR will be a lot cheaper to buy/ own, and they are brilliant machines....
Here is the TG verdict:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qUcWHnpNOVE
On paper its as quick as an F50 0-100
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qUcWHnpNOVE
On paper its as quick as an F50 0-100
Very little will beat a Sagaris (with the close ratio gearbox option) to 100.
My Tuscan was quicker than a friend’s 360 to 100. My Sagaris was noticeably faster than the Tuscan.
Above about 110-120 my Countach is faster than the Sagaris and it’s 18 years old! Any modern Lambo should totally blitz a Sagaris above 120. The Sagaris’ problem is drag, and lots of it.
A sorted 4.5 Cerbera is faster than a Sagaris at higher speeds so could perhaps be more of a match for a modern Lambo.
My Tuscan was quicker than a friend’s 360 to 100. My Sagaris was noticeably faster than the Tuscan.
Above about 110-120 my Countach is faster than the Sagaris and it’s 18 years old! Any modern Lambo should totally blitz a Sagaris above 120. The Sagaris’ problem is drag, and lots of it.
A sorted 4.5 Cerbera is faster than a Sagaris at higher speeds so could perhaps be more of a match for a modern Lambo.
Hard to compare. The tvr is amazing but you need alot more focus to drive it. The diablo is actually alot softer and easier to relax and take it easy in. You could do a long drive in a diablo (i did 14 hours today!!) but after 3 hours in the tvr you would be wrecked on bad roads and really tired!! The tvr is much easier to take out everyday to work and such but the diablo really makes the occasion special. They really are chalk and cheese but i would believe they are both pretty equal up to 130-140. The difference is you have to pray to god when you plant the foot in the sagaris that it will stay straight, whereas in the diablo you can relax a bit and put the foot down without getting the bible out 
dj Kam said:
Think reliability will be a big issue with TVR's. Maybe wrong as I've never owned one but never had a problem with either of my Ferrari's.
Well I've had one drive in my 360 and wanted to have a second one last night and the drivers door wont open! Then when I get in the passengers side the prancing donky wont start! When it did it just miss fired like a pig and died!Its back off to ferrari today on a low loader. I can honestly say I never had issues like that with my TVR but then I did have a good one.
The 360 has only done 30,000 km and been looked after by the main dealer all its life! It only came back from ferrari last week when it went for its service so to say Im not impressed so far is an understatement.
Most TVRs aren't lacking in the performance stakes, and keeping up with a modern Lambo or Ferrari in a straight line shouldn't be an issue.
Having driven several (there's always a friend on his way up the supercar ladder) the problem for me is one of variable build quality and traction. The former I could live with, but the latter needs sorting before you can really have any fun.
All that power (though torque is a little weak) and little weights makes grip the main priority. Only a properly fettled TVR will be able to keep up with a modern Italian supercar.
I haven't driven a Sagaris, but I've taken a spin (literally in a couple of cases) in most earlier variants and without exception the btrakes have been rubbish and the handling in the wet diabolical.
I'm always ribbing Bosscerbera about how a TVR is just "5000 bolts flying in close formation" but, as he's demonstrated to me, a correctly put together one will reward as well as anything costing 4 times as much.
So anyone thinking of taking the Trevor plunge should do so with their eyes wide open, but buy wisely and theres plenty of fun to be had.
(Can't say I agree with the prediction that Sags will fetch £40K though. TVRs have traditionally deprecitated like a used condom and I've seen nothing to change that. IMO, obviously.)
Having driven several (there's always a friend on his way up the supercar ladder) the problem for me is one of variable build quality and traction. The former I could live with, but the latter needs sorting before you can really have any fun.
All that power (though torque is a little weak) and little weights makes grip the main priority. Only a properly fettled TVR will be able to keep up with a modern Italian supercar.
I haven't driven a Sagaris, but I've taken a spin (literally in a couple of cases) in most earlier variants and without exception the btrakes have been rubbish and the handling in the wet diabolical.
I'm always ribbing Bosscerbera about how a TVR is just "5000 bolts flying in close formation" but, as he's demonstrated to me, a correctly put together one will reward as well as anything costing 4 times as much.
So anyone thinking of taking the Trevor plunge should do so with their eyes wide open, but buy wisely and theres plenty of fun to be had.
(Can't say I agree with the prediction that Sags will fetch £40K though. TVRs have traditionally deprecitated like a used condom and I've seen nothing to change that. IMO, obviously.)
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