Scottish sprint and Hillclimb Championship regs
Discussion
Will be emailed shortly, but if you're impatient are available for download on the www.scottish-sprinting.co.uk website (they are at the bottom of the 'Information' page).
No gimmicks - just a great series of the best sprint and hillclimb events that Scotland has to offer. By the way, did I forget to tell you that, for 2008, it is "BUY ONE, GET TWO FREE!" For the normal £20 entry fee, you get the sprint, hillclimb and speed championship entry - and for newcomers it is HALF PRICE!
(OK - I lied about the gimmicks......)
For those not on email or without downloaad access from the internet, they will be going to the printer next week.
No gimmicks - just a great series of the best sprint and hillclimb events that Scotland has to offer. By the way, did I forget to tell you that, for 2008, it is "BUY ONE, GET TWO FREE!" For the normal £20 entry fee, you get the sprint, hillclimb and speed championship entry - and for newcomers it is HALF PRICE!
(OK - I lied about the gimmicks......)
For those not on email or without downloaad access from the internet, they will be going to the printer next week.
On the entry form there seems to be no option but to enter all the championships (Hillclimb,Sprint,Speed).
What is the point of this?
Surely you should be able to enter only one championship if you want.
There are lots of people who only do either Hilllclimbs or Sprints, so you will end up with championship entry lists full of people who will never enter any events.
You could also end up with a class with only one car in it because there could be a few cars on the entry list but only one of them intends to do Hillclimbs (for example). You cannot amalgamate classes if you dont know who intends to enter what. (Amalgamation Does this still happen? I cant find anything about it in the regs)
What is the point of this?
Surely you should be able to enter only one championship if you want.
There are lots of people who only do either Hilllclimbs or Sprints, so you will end up with championship entry lists full of people who will never enter any events.
You could also end up with a class with only one car in it because there could be a few cars on the entry list but only one of them intends to do Hillclimbs (for example). You cannot amalgamate classes if you dont know who intends to enter what. (Amalgamation Does this still happen? I cant find anything about it in the regs)
Rotorheid said:
fiestajohn said:
(Amalgamation Does this still happen?)
mostly happening in Sprints and it's biggest push-off!!The £20 entry fee is a good discount on previous years costs and is probably intended to try encourage people to try the two disciplines. Personally I always try to do a good mixture of both each year.
k13job said:
Rotorheid said:
fiestajohn said:
(Amalgamation Does this still happen?)
mostly happening in Sprints and it's biggest push-off!!The £20 entry fee is a good discount on previous years costs and is probably intended to try encourage people to try the two disciplines. Personally I always try to do a good mixture of both each year.
Ok..Ok.. a mixture of good results then
fiestajohn said:
On the entry form there seems to be no option but to enter all the championships (Hillclimb,Sprint,Speed).
What is the point of this?
Surely you should be able to enter only one championship if you want.
John - last year it cost you £22 to enter the hillclimb championship. Although the speed championship was free, you had to also enter the sprint championship - at another £22, which meant the speed championship entry cost £44 (if that was what you were looking to do).What is the point of this?
Surely you should be able to enter only one championship if you want.
Most folk would agree that getting all three in 2008 for £20 was a bargain.... and it might encourage a few folk to try the alternative discipline, which can only be a good thing.
Rotorheid said:
fiestajohn said:
(Amalgamation Does this still happen?)
mostly happening in Sprints and it's biggest push-off!!Amalgamations have not been an issue for the sprint championship in recent years, as they are not necessary to allow the scoring system to work.
G4Addicted said:
fiestajohn said:
On the entry form there seems to be no option but to enter all the championships (Hillclimb,Sprint,Speed).
What is the point of this?
Surely you should be able to enter only one championship if you want.
John - last year it cost you £22 to enter the hillclimb championship. Although the speed championship was free, you had to also enter the sprint championship - at another £22, which meant the speed championship entry cost £44 (if that was what you were looking to do).What is the point of this?
Surely you should be able to enter only one championship if you want.
Most folk would agree that getting all three in 2008 for £20 was a bargain.... and it might encourage a few folk to try the alternative discipline, which can only be a good thing.
G4Addicted said:
What clubs do at their events on the day is up to them - some clubs amalgamate classes and some don't. The same applies on the hillclimb events.
Amalgamations have not been an issue for the sprint championship in recent years, as they are not necessary to allow the scoring system to work.
I know clubs can do what they like but I was thinking about class amalgamations in the Hillcimb championship.Amalgamations have not been an issue for the sprint championship in recent years, as they are not necessary to allow the scoring system to work.
As I said I dont know if this still happens, but I know it used to.
Another disadvantage of having everybody registered for both championships will be that a competitor who is doing the Sprint championship but enters one or two Hillclimbs (even though they have no interest in doing the whole championship) could take points off of a regular Hillclimb competitor.
fiestajohn said:
Another disadvantage of having everybody registered for both championships will be that a competitor who is doing the Sprint championship but enters one or two Hillclimbs (even though they have no interest in doing the whole championship) could take points off of a regular Hillclimb competitor.
"Tactical" entries have always featured in championships, just as have people deliberately driving slowly to avoid creating high bogey times.(me I only know how to drive flat oot all the time...
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fiestajohn said:
Another disadvantage of having everybody registered for both championships will be that a competitor who is doing the Sprint championship but enters one or two Hillclimbs (even though they have no interest in doing the whole championship) could take points off of a regular Hillclimb competitor.
My personal view is that, to win anything, you should be required to beat anyone who turns out in your class, whether they do 12 or 2 events - it is a bit of a hollow victory if the win comes from turning up more often than anyone else....fiestajohn said:
I am not arguing that £20 is good IF you want to enter both championships, all I was asking was why is there not an option to only enter one if you want to.
Anyone who pays their twenty quid but does not wish to be listed in either the hillclimb or speed championship only has to ask and I will happily delete them, and I am certain that the new hillclimb co-ordinator would be pleased to do the same. That said, I can see no earthly reason why anyone would want to be deleted....As I said earlier, the intention is to encourage more sprinters to try the hills, and more hillclimbers to try the sprints. We are also responding to the majority of competitors - 61 of the 84 drivers who registered for the 2007 hillclimb championship also registered for the sprints, which is a significant majority by anyone's rules. That majority are now £24 better off in 2008...
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