No more exclusive interviews with Lewis for Sky/Times then

No more exclusive interviews with Lewis for Sky/Times then

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The Hypno-Toad

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12,287 posts

206 months

Saturday 15th December 2007
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Who is Edward Gorman and what the wtf has he got against Big Ron?

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/sport/formula_1/a...

Its such a poisonous article I'm wondering if he's related to Mad Max or Bernie. True, Ron did royally screw the pooch this year but that report seems almost personal.

IforB

9,840 posts

230 months

Saturday 15th December 2007
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The thing is, that there is a lot of truth in that article. Whilst it is easy to slag off Ron Dennis in hindsight, some of the stuff ups this year have been pretty monumental.

The trouble is, when it all starts going wrong in such a big way, you are always fighting a losing battle. For me, it has all gone so badly wrong because they tried to "spin" their way out of trouble and were caught out. Tell the truth from the start and don't try to cover things up, especially when the governing body does seem to have them in their sights.

I just hope McLaren can now draw aline under all of this and just get on with the business of racing.

MrKipling43

5,788 posts

217 months

Saturday 15th December 2007
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It's an interesting article, for no reason other than it has apparently been written by someone who has taken the entire affair completely at face value. It gives an interesting insight into how someone who was watching F1 for the first time this year might have perceived what happened.

It completely fails to take into account the ins and out of F1 that make it a completely unique sport. For example, comparing F1 to football - as he does - is idiotic, it's like comparing open heart surgery with putting on a plaster.

Basically, he has completely over-simplified every major event from the 2007 season. Regardless of what you think of RD, FA or LH, there were far more contributing factors to what went on in F1 last season than there are sentences in his article.

flemke

22,865 posts

238 months

Saturday 15th December 2007
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MrKipling43 said:
It's an interesting article, for no reason other than it has apparently been written by someone who has taken the entire affair completely at face value. It gives an interesting insight into how someone who was watching F1 for the first time this year might have perceived what happened.

It completely fails to take into account the ins and out of F1 that make it a completely unique sport. For example, comparing F1 to football - as he does - is idiotic, it's like comparing open heart surgery with putting on a plaster.

Basically, he has completely over-simplified every major event from the 2007 season. Regardless of what you think of RD, FA or LH, there were far more contributing factors to what went on in F1 last season than there are sentences in his article.
As a man once said, "Some people make history, other people write about it."

He might have added, "and some of the people who write about it are clueless".

308mate

13,757 posts

223 months

Saturday 15th December 2007
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yes

And the trouble is, much of the readership will have the same if not less knowledge than he. Giving them the impression he knows his stuff, they take his column at face value, people's faith in the "news"paper is strengthened and we all move on.

Its so predictable and regular that its almost not worth whining about. Almost.

HayRoger

40 posts

243 months

Saturday 15th December 2007
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Even more shocking are the comments made by the TimeOnline readers:


Tetsuya Tokyo Japan said:
The only thing FIA are doing wrong here is letting a team, Mclaren Mercedes, who have by their own admission used Ferrari technology in their 2008 car, just walk away from this scot free.
Even in Yen 100,000,000 is hardly scot-free

Joe Smith Taipei Taiwan said:
Plus prior to this season McLaren was down in the dumps and all of a sudden they bounce back and start challenging the elite teams?
The thing I now dread is having to read how "McLaren only won because they copied Ferrari.." for the next few seasons from these types of people. It is going to get more annoying than the Hamilton hate fest.

flemke

22,865 posts

238 months

Saturday 15th December 2007
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HayRoger said:
Even more shocking are the comments made by the TimeOnline readers:


Tetsuya Tokyo Japan said:
The only thing FIA are doing wrong here is letting a team, Mclaren Mercedes, who have by their own admission used Ferrari technology in their 2008 car, just walk away from this scot free.
Even in Yen 100,000,000 is hardly scot-free

Joe Smith Taipei Taiwan said:
Plus prior to this season McLaren was down in the dumps and all of a sudden they bounce back and start challenging the elite teams?
The thing I now dread is having to read how "McLaren only won because they copied Ferrari.." for the next few seasons from these types of people. It is going to get more annoying than the Hamilton hate fest.
Often it seems that 95% of the people in the world have below-average intelligence wink. That wouldn't be their fault, but it can get in the way.

As for Edward Gorman's verbal masturbations, IINM he wrote that thing for the Times. IINM, the Times would be the same publication in which Brundle wrote his piece mildly criticising the FIA's outrages, and now, because the Times dared to print the suggestion that the FIA might do something that was outrageous, the FIA is suing the Times, which lawsuit is itself another FIA outrage.
So if I were a cynical man, I might wonder whether the Times now is publishing Gorman's tripe in order to appease the FIA and deflect the lawsuit.scratchchin
But I'm not a cynical man, because the FIA has induced me to believe in peace, love and the tooth fairy.

The Hypno-Toad

Original Poster:

12,287 posts

206 months

Saturday 15th December 2007
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flemke said:
Often it seems that 95% of the people in the world have below-average intelligence wink. That wouldn't be their fault, but it can get in the way.

As for Edward Gorman's verbal masturbations, IINM he wrote that thing for the Times. IINM, the Times would be the same publication in which Brundle wrote his piece mildly criticising the FIA's outrages, and now, because the Times dared to print the suggestion that the FIA might do something that was outrageous, the FIA is suing the Times, which lawsuit is itself another FIA outrage.
So if I were a cynical man, I might wonder whether the Times now is publishing Gorman's tripe in order to appease the FIA and deflect the lawsuit.scratchchin
But I'm not a cynical man, because the FIA has induced me to believe in peace, love and the tooth fairy.
As ever flemke, concise and spot on. That thought had not occured to my good self.

LongQ

13,864 posts

234 months

Sunday 16th December 2007
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A bloke called McEvoy in the Daily Mail seems to have the job of writing about F1 and of the articles I have perused all have been totally negative about McL without mentioning much else at all.

I am coming to the view that the sooner the entire circus shifts to the far east the better.


Nick M

3,624 posts

224 months

Sunday 16th December 2007
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LongQ said:
A bloke called McEvoy in the Daily Mail...
Errrr, nuff said I'd have thought...