Plot of land for building

Plot of land for building

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Vixpy1

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42,626 posts

265 months

Sunday 30th December 2007
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I'm after a small plot of land to build a house on in Surrey, which seems rare as rocking horse shit.

Any people on PH deal in land?

ScottNicol

186 posts

213 months

Sunday 30th December 2007
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i deal in land, my friend has a plot in byfleet but it is for 10 semi detached bungalows rather than just 1 unit. although it could be used for 1 pretty large units, hes after about £1.3m IIRC

bmwdrivernigel

8,596 posts

225 months

Sunday 30th December 2007
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Vixpy1 said:
I'm after a small plot of land to build a house on in Surrey, which seems rare as rocking horse shit.

Any people on PH deal in land?
How about 1/2 acre in Old Windsor? Or maybe not, don't want you as a neighbour!! biggrin

Vixpy1

Original Poster:

42,626 posts

265 months

Sunday 30th December 2007
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bmwdrivernigel said:
Vixpy1 said:
I'm after a small plot of land to build a house on in Surrey, which seems rare as rocking horse shit.

Any people on PH deal in land?
How about 1/2 acre in Old Windsor? Or maybe not, don't want you as a neighbour!! biggrin
I'll make you an offer you can't refuse hehe

bmwdrivernigel

8,596 posts

225 months

Sunday 30th December 2007
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Vixpy1 said:
bmwdrivernigel said:
Vixpy1 said:
I'm after a small plot of land to build a house on in Surrey, which seems rare as rocking horse shit.

Any people on PH deal in land?
How about 1/2 acre in Old Windsor? Or maybe not, don't want you as a neighbour!! biggrin
I'll make you an offer you can't refuse hehe
Burn her on a stake? biggrin

Vixpy1

Original Poster:

42,626 posts

265 months

Sunday 30th December 2007
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ScottNicol said:
i deal in land, my friend has a plot in byfleet but it is for 10 semi detached bungalows rather than just 1 unit. although it could be used for 1 pretty large units, hes after about £1.3m IIRC
Thats a little big for me hehe

I'm not sure who to approach to help find me a plot, or even how much something with PP goes for these days.

I guess most of the plots go to the big boys.

odyssey2200

18,650 posts

210 months

Sunday 30th December 2007
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Vixpy1 said:
I'm after a small plot of land to build a house on in Surrey, which seems rare as rocking horse shit.

Any people on PH deal in land?
you and me both Vixpy
I have been looking in west wiltshire for about 2 years now
I found one plot and no one can tell me who owns it.
I tried the local farmer etc but none say its theirs
I tried the local council who denied it was theirs
I sent my cheque off to the land registry who sent it back as they have no ideal who owns it.
In the last month or so the Council have put op fences and a sign saying that it is not a right of way and to use a nearby foot path.
It its not theirs how can they do that?

I found a lovely plot a bit further away and went throughthe same games LR did not know who owned it.
Parish council were particularly unhelpful with a NIMBY attitude.
I eventually found out that it a Site sod Special Scientific Interest(despite the fact that the plot has not been maintained or cleared for years) so I am completely screwed on that front.

A friend of mine joined one of those Plot finder sites and got nothing of any use at all.

Hope you find something and it anyone knows of a plot near Melksham in Wiltshire PLEASE let me know.



bmwdrivernigel

8,596 posts

225 months

Sunday 30th December 2007
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Is it worth contacting some of the 'big boys' who might get offered something too small and see how they offload it?

Vixpy1

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42,626 posts

265 months

Sunday 30th December 2007
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bmwdrivernigel said:
Is it worth contacting some of the 'big boys' who might get offered something too small and see how they offload it?
The problem is i'm sure they get palmed off to mates or people they know, back handers etc, hard for someone outside the industry to get a foot in

odyssey2200

18,650 posts

210 months

Sunday 30th December 2007
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Vixpy1 said:
bmwdrivernigel said:
Is it worth contacting some of the 'big boys' who might get offered something too small and see how they offload it?
The problem is i'm sure they get palmed off to mates or people they know, back handers etc, hard for someone outside the industry to get a foot in
yes tried that too!

door slammed shut

Vixpy1

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42,626 posts

265 months

Sunday 30th December 2007
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My problems would be solved if i could buy the small plot of land behind my house which belongs to a house 3 doors up, not big enough to build a house on, but big enough to extend my house back ,and give me a double garage.

However the old codger who lives there has sold to a housing investment company, and last time i spoke to them (about 4 years ago) they were not interested.

Oh well, moving house it is i guess.

LeTim

12,915 posts

199 months

Monday 31st December 2007
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Vixpy1 said:
My problems would be solved if i could buy the small plot of land behind my house which belongs to a house 3 doors up, not big enough to build a house on, but big enough to extend my house back ,and give me a double garage.

However the old codger who lives there has sold to a housing investment company, and last time i spoke to them (about 4 years ago) they were not interested.

Oh well, moving house it is i guess.
Mate, have you tried these bods...

http://www.plotfinder.net/

I used them for a while, you need to register and pay, but it was quite useful. IIRC I saw a few things.

The other, rather obvious one is to search on righmove.com for land.

Anyway good luck! As you know plots have been hard to find, very hard, but that might ease up a bit next year.

Also have a read of "The self builders bible" if you can, makes a very good point that plots tend to be like derivartive contracts on houses...i.e. the price of them fluctuates much more than house prices do, so that might mean they come down sharply over the next 18mths.....have to see won't we!

srebbe64

13,021 posts

238 months

Monday 31st December 2007
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LeTim said:
Vixpy1 said:
My problems would be solved if i could buy the small plot of land behind my house which belongs to a house 3 doors up, not big enough to build a house on, but big enough to extend my house back ,and give me a double garage.

However the old codger who lives there has sold to a housing investment company, and last time i spoke to them (about 4 years ago) they were not interested.

Oh well, moving house it is i guess.
Mate, have you tried these bods...

http://www.plotfinder.net/

I used them for a while, you need to register and pay, but it was quite useful. IIRC I saw a few things.

The other, rather obvious one is to search on righmove.com for land.

Anyway good luck! As you know plots have been hard to find, very hard, but that might ease up a bit next year.

Also have a read of "The self builders bible" if you can, makes a very good point that plots tend to be like derivartive contracts on houses...i.e. the price of them fluctuates much more than house prices do, so that might mean they come down sharply over the next 18mths.....have to see won't we!
I tried all those for two or three years, albeit in Hampshire. And there was diddly-squat available. You're better off buying a wreck of a property and levelling it in my opinion. Obviously you'll need all the various consents. I was about to do this when a property came on the market which was perfect so we bought that.

Sam_68

9,939 posts

246 months

Wednesday 2nd January 2008
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Decent residential building plots anywhere are pretty thin on the ground, and anything actually being marketed as such is likely to be grossly overpriced even under normal market conditions (let alone at the moment, when most vendors have yet to realign their price expectations with the fact that the finished product is likely to be worth 1/3rd less in 6 months time than it would be now).

The advice I'd always give is to find something on which the potential has not been recognised - an existing house with a garden large enough and suitably positioned to allow additional development, for example. Buy the house, obtain planning permission for your new building, then sell off the original house with a reduced garden; you can often end up with a decent plot for next to nothing, this way.

Of course, you need to be able to find the funding in the first place (though if you can't afford the house which 'donates' the plot, you'll probably struggle to fund the construction of a new property on the surplus land once you've sold the original house on, in any case).

...and at the moment, I wouldn't be even thinking about any form of property speculation unless I knew what I was doing.

Firkin Dogbolter

1,262 posts

198 months

Wednesday 2nd January 2008
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I, and 5 of my neighbours are in the process of selling off some of our back gardens to a local developer.

Have you thought about getting a map and seeing if any of the gardens look sizable and able to get access and writing to the people whose gardens they are to make an offer?

Just a thought.

LeTim

12,915 posts

199 months

Wednesday 2nd January 2008
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Sam_68 said:
Decent residential building plots anywhere are pretty thin on the ground, and anything actually being marketed as such is likely to be grossly overpriced even under normal market conditions (let alone at the moment, when most vendors have yet to realign their price expectations with the fact that the finished product is likely to be worth 1/3rd less in 6 months time than it would be now).
A VERY good point.

I have a friend who way back in 1989 wanted to buy a plot to build on, at the time they couldn't afford a plot, the one they liked was £90k. Well, it didn't sell, and it didn't sell, they eventually bought it 3 years later for £30,000.

Not one of the plots that I have been watching have sold, those that went off the market as 'sold' for a brief period have bounced straight back on as the buyers presumably have found that finance is no longer available. One plot three times to date.

There's an awful lot of garden planning applications out there in the pipeline and buyers are going to be thin on the ground. As mentioned plots are a geared play on houses.


Vixpy1

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42,626 posts

265 months

Wednesday 2nd January 2008
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I'm just gonna move hehe