Brake Upgrade

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jez2577

Original Poster:

30 posts

196 months

Tuesday 8th January 2008
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Hi has anyone out there got good advice on brake upgrades??? Do i go for ap racing or wilwood ?

Cheers

well_fans

4,193 posts

225 months

Wednesday 9th January 2008
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AP Racing for the UK roads - no dust seals on the Wilwood as I understand so all that crap they put on our roads cause havoc with them unless you are using it as a daily driver and keeping them clean. Or if you've got a cv8 bung some VXR stoppers on for an instant improvement and 2nd hand, hell even new sets can be had for a lot less than the AP/Wilwood options.

pixie83

56 posts

198 months

Wednesday 9th January 2008
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I have APs and they are ace, never fade and pull up very quick for a big car. would recommend!!!

Raggyman

2,317 posts

244 months

Wednesday 9th January 2008
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Yeah.. AP's are brilliant, and for me the only option.. catches the mrs out all the time now, cause she gets in the corsa, and panics when it doesn't pull up like the monaro.

S600VXR

5,876 posts

201 months

Wednesday 9th January 2008
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pixie83 said:
I have APs and they are ace, never fade and pull up very quick for a big car. would recommend!!!
Ditto - some people have had issues I understand but so long as you run the pads in and look after them (ie - clean them regular) they are brill! Never faded yet and I have tried very hard!!

stigmundfreud

22,454 posts

211 months

Wednesday 9th January 2008
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?!? 2 grand on brakes? If your car is a CV8 the best upgrade for road use would have to be a set of VXR stoppers with the pads/fluid from monkfish. A lot cheaper in the long run. I have no doubt the AP's are fantastic but I seriously question someone saying they need them on the road - also there has been the thread on the discs rusting badly if not used when it is wet.

S600VXR

5,876 posts

201 months

Wednesday 9th January 2008
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stigmundfreud said:
?!? 2 grand on brakes? If your car is a CV8 the best upgrade for road use would have to be a set of VXR stoppers with the pads/fluid from monkfish. A lot cheaper in the long run. I have no doubt the AP's are fantastic but I seriously question someone saying they need them on the road - also there has been the thread on the discs rusting badly if not used when it is wet.
I agree they are not cheap but no proper brake kits are and I did say you need to look after them. Like many "upgrades" you cant just fit and forget like you can OEM parts. As for use, I bought the car to use hard when I do actually drive it, be that track days or hard continent driving and Im sure I would have killed the standard setup by now - try jumping on the brakes hard from over 170mph cos some Fench idiot didnt look in his mirror before pulling out a mile before he got to the truck he was looking to overtake! Doubt the standard setup would have copped with that alone so Im sold on them. thumbup

stigmundfreud

22,454 posts

211 months

Wednesday 9th January 2008
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S600VXR said:
stigmundfreud said:
?!? 2 grand on brakes? If your car is a CV8 the best upgrade for road use would have to be a set of VXR stoppers with the pads/fluid from monkfish. A lot cheaper in the long run. I have no doubt the AP's are fantastic but I seriously question someone saying they need them on the road - also there has been the thread on the discs rusting badly if not used when it is wet.
I agree they are not cheap but no proper brake kits are and I did say you need to look after them. Like many "upgrades" you cant just fit and forget like you can OEM parts. As for use, I bought the car to use hard when I do actually drive it, be that track days or hard continent driving and Im sure I would have killed the standard setup by now - try jumping on the brakes hard from over 170mph cos some Fench idiot didnt look in his mirror before pulling out a mile before he got to the truck he was looking to overtake! Doubt the standard setup would have copped with that alone so Im sold on them. thumbup
hmmm who is the idiot? The french driver for not looking in his mirrors or someone driving at a now claimed 170mph on the road behind him? If I were flipping a coin I bet it would be double headed wink

jez2577

Original Poster:

30 posts

196 months

Wednesday 9th January 2008
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Thanks for the great advice I think AP is the way i will go now ! The big question who is the cheapest to supply and fit?? is there any other Monaro experts other than monkfish or rapid GB?

S600VXR

5,876 posts

201 months

Wednesday 9th January 2008
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stigmundfreud said:
S600VXR said:
stigmundfreud said:
?!? 2 grand on brakes? If your car is a CV8 the best upgrade for road use would have to be a set of VXR stoppers with the pads/fluid from monkfish. A lot cheaper in the long run. I have no doubt the AP's are fantastic but I seriously question someone saying they need them on the road - also there has been the thread on the discs rusting badly if not used when it is wet.
I agree they are not cheap but no proper brake kits are and I did say you need to look after them. Like many "upgrades" you cant just fit and forget like you can OEM parts. As for use, I bought the car to use hard when I do actually drive it, be that track days or hard continent driving and Im sure I would have killed the standard setup by now - try jumping on the brakes hard from over 170mph cos some Fench idiot didnt look in his mirror before pulling out a mile before he got to the truck he was looking to overtake! Doubt the standard setup would have copped with that alone so Im sold on them. thumbup
hmmm who is the idiot? The french driver for not looking in his mirrors or someone driving at a now claimed 170mph on the road behind him? If I were flipping a coin I bet it would be double headed wink
I knew I would get that comeback and by the way its not a claim its a GPS indicated speed as car speedos dont read that high... obviously you have not come across that problem by the sounds of it.. hehe

stigmundfreud

22,454 posts

211 months

Wednesday 9th January 2008
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S600VXR said:
stigmundfreud said:
S600VXR said:
stigmundfreud said:
?!? 2 grand on brakes? If your car is a CV8 the best upgrade for road use would have to be a set of VXR stoppers with the pads/fluid from monkfish. A lot cheaper in the long run. I have no doubt the AP's are fantastic but I seriously question someone saying they need them on the road - also there has been the thread on the discs rusting badly if not used when it is wet.
I agree they are not cheap but no proper brake kits are and I did say you need to look after them. Like many "upgrades" you cant just fit and forget like you can OEM parts. As for use, I bought the car to use hard when I do actually drive it, be that track days or hard continent driving and Im sure I would have killed the standard setup by now - try jumping on the brakes hard from over 170mph cos some Fench idiot didnt look in his mirror before pulling out a mile before he got to the truck he was looking to overtake! Doubt the standard setup would have copped with that alone so Im sold on them. thumbup
hmmm who is the idiot? The french driver for not looking in his mirrors or someone driving at a now claimed 170mph on the road behind him? If I were flipping a coin I bet it would be double headed wink
I knew I would get that comeback and by the way its not a claim its a GPS indicated speed as car speedos dont read that high... obviously you have not come across that problem by the sounds of it.. hehe
Not at those leptons but in the wet I had a moment of "flinstones through the floor" braking on the standards so did get the upgrae to vxr. I have no doubt in the AP's at all but I couldnt justify 2k on a set of stoppers - not when I'm driving miss daisy wink

and 170, you really werent trying

S600VXR

5,876 posts

201 months

Wednesday 9th January 2008
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I agree but got to 189 afterwards before I decided 200 was not going to happen with cars in the distance... see I am sensible.

crisisjez

9,209 posts

206 months

Thursday 10th January 2008
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S600VXR said:
I agree but got to 189 afterwards before I decided 200 was not going to happen with cars in the distance... see I am sensible.



How much road did you use to see 189?

What do you recon you`d see in 1.5 miles?

jamiep

1,791 posts

220 months

Thursday 10th January 2008
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Id always recomend the AP kit, had them on my last car aswell.

astonman

791 posts

211 months

Thursday 10th January 2008
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what is different with vxr brakes in comparison to standard cv8?How much would it cost to replace standard with vxr (new parts?)

V6 JDT

1,275 posts

223 months

Thursday 10th January 2008
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astonman said:
what is different with vxr brakes in comparison to standard cv8?How much would it cost to replace standard with vxr (new parts?)

Speak to Greens or Monkfish. They may have a deal for you

S600VXR

5,876 posts

201 months

Thursday 10th January 2008
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crisisjez said:
S600VXR said:
I agree but got to 189 afterwards before I decided 200 was not going to happen with cars in the distance... see I am sensible.
How much road did you use to see 189?

What do you recon you`d see in 1.5 miles?
I dont really know, want to do V Max this year to see what it will do. Trouble is 6th is so tall and such a jump from 5th, it does pull it but its hard work! It will pull redline in 5th quick though.

mackie1

8,153 posts

234 months

Friday 11th January 2008
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What a the cost of replacement from VXR disks and pads these days? Last time I looked it was slightly heart stopping from the disks! (i.e. more expensive than AP).

stigmundfreud

22,454 posts

211 months

Friday 11th January 2008
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mackie1 said:
What a the cost of replacement from VXR disks and pads these days? Last time I looked it was slightly heart stopping from the disks! (i.e. more expensive than AP).
just get them from PBR, slightly less heart stopping and I believe you can skim the vxr ones too

mackie1

8,153 posts

234 months

Friday 11th January 2008
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stigmundfreud said:
mackie1 said:
What a the cost of replacement from VXR disks and pads these days? Last time I looked it was slightly heart stopping from the disks! (i.e. more expensive than AP).
just get them from PBR, slightly less heart stopping and I believe you can skim the vxr ones too
Is there a contact to buy them direct? I don't need them yet but I'm pondering getting some from Oz for when I do (if the price is right).