Shell biggest proffits in history
Shell biggest proffits in history
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Adrian W

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Thursday 31st January 2008
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And it's got nothing to do with us paying more for petrol etc.

cqueen

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250 months

Thursday 31st January 2008
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Good for them.

speedy_thrills

7,970 posts

273 months

Thursday 31st January 2008
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Adrian W said:
And it's got nothing to do with us paying more for petrol etc.
Your more than welcome to start your own oil company or invest if you want wink.

It’s like when conspiracy theorists declare that banks will end up owning everything due to fractional reserve banking, I always point out that perhaps they should buy shares in banks wink.

ASBO

26,140 posts

244 months

Thursday 31st January 2008
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But yet all their profit is now coming from the Asia, Africa and the Gulf of Mexico.

Shell's North Sea Presence is now virtually non-existent.

Adrian W

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Thursday 31st January 2008
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ASBO said:
But yet all their profit is now coming from the Asia, Africa and the Gulf of Mexico.

Shell's North Sea Presence is now virtually non-existent.
I thought most of there profit was coming from Exploration and oil production, which eventually gets sold to us as petrol/desiel/oil

krusty

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279 months

Thursday 31st January 2008
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14 Billion.... Nice one.... Hopefully that'll result in a lot of reinvestment.

Olf

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248 months

Thursday 31st January 2008
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krusty said:
14 Billion.... Nice one.... Hopefully that'll result in a lot of reinvestment.
It will have to. Shell is still fighting hard to regain credibility after over-claiming on proven reserves up to a couple of years ago.

They have gone through a massive internal restructure and have hired many new exploration specialists to try and find the next hit. I think it was only a few weeks ago that a massive investment was announced in Siberia with Gazprom, the sort of investment that makes that profit look a little more palatable.

Morningside

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259 months

Thursday 31st January 2008
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You can be sure of Shell.
Anyhow I thought Mr. Brown gave the north sea (gas/oil fields) a one-off windfall 'tax' a couple of years back?

Olf

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Thursday 31st January 2008
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Morningside said:
You can be sure of Shell.
Anyhow I thought Mr. Brown gave the north sea (gas/oil fields) a one-off windfall 'tax' a couple of years back?
They might be spending that on the £100 billion bill for decommisioning the north sea rigs and infrastructure over the next 25 years or so.

spaximus

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283 months

Thursday 31st January 2008
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This is good news all round, unless you are a wit of a union leader (Tony Woodley unite) who is demanding a windfall tax. The coporation tax they will pay to the uk is huge and the shareholders will do well, and that is everyone with a pension. I cannot belive how these dimwits can turn success like this into a problem.

ASBO

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Thursday 31st January 2008
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Adrian W said:
ASBO said:
But yet all their profit is now coming from Asia, Africa and the Gulf of Mexico.

Shell's North Sea Presence is now virtually non-existent.
I thought most of there profit was coming from Exploration and oil production, which eventually gets sold to us as petrol/desiel/oil
Sorry confused?

It still is/was, just not from the North Sea smile

Adrian W

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Thursday 31st January 2008
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spaximus said:
This is good news all round, unless you are a wit of a union leader (Tony Woodley unite) who is demanding a windfall tax. The coporation tax they will pay to the uk is huge and the shareholders will do well, and that is everyone with a pension. I cannot belive how these dimwits can turn success like this into a problem.
Corporation tax is only 30% and thats after they have capatalised and depreciated everything thay possibly can, with such a complicated consolidation none of us will ever know the number they first thought of.

You could say good luck to them, but i'm sure all of the other oil companies are going to report similar spectacular results

steve996

1,240 posts

245 months

Thursday 31st January 2008
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Adrian W said:
spaximus said:
This is good news all round, unless you are a wit of a union leader (Tony Woodley unite) who is demanding a windfall tax. The coporation tax they will pay to the uk is huge and the shareholders will do well, and that is everyone with a pension. I cannot belive how these dimwits can turn success like this into a problem.
Corporation tax is only 30% and thats after they have capatalised and depreciated everything thay possibly can, with such a complicated consolidation none of us will ever know the number they first thought of.

You could say good luck to them, but i'm sure all of the other oil companies are going to report similar spectacular results
North Sea oil production operations are taxed at a 50% corp tax rate, not 30.

Olf

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248 months

Thursday 31st January 2008
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Adrian W said:
spaximus said:
This is good news all round, unless you are a wit of a union leader (Tony Woodley unite) who is demanding a windfall tax. The coporation tax they will pay to the uk is huge and the shareholders will do well, and that is everyone with a pension. I cannot belive how these dimwits can turn success like this into a problem.
Corporation tax is only 30% and thats after they have capatalised and depreciated everything thay possibly can, with such a complicated consolidation none of us will ever know the number they first thought of.

You could say good luck to them, but i'm sure all of the other oil companies are going to report similar spectacular results
Just for balance. Shell invested about $2bn a month in 2007.

Oil doesn't come cheap end of.

ASBO

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Thursday 31st January 2008
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steve996 said:
Adrian W said:
spaximus said:
This is good news all round, unless you are a wit of a union leader (Tony Woodley unite) who is demanding a windfall tax. The coporation tax they will pay to the uk is huge and the shareholders will do well, and that is everyone with a pension. I cannot belive how these dimwits can turn success like this into a problem.
Corporation tax is only 30% and thats after they have capatalised and depreciated everything thay possibly can, with such a complicated consolidation none of us will ever know the number they first thought of.

You could say good luck to them, but i'm sure all of the other oil companies are going to report similar spectacular results
North Sea oil production operations are taxed at a 50% corp tax rate, not 30.
yes

Which is another reason why the big guns are pulling out.

Zod

35,295 posts

288 months

Thursday 31st January 2008
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It's my fault for drivinfg a car that gives me an average of 12mpg on Optimax.

JagLover

46,825 posts

265 months

Thursday 31st January 2008
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They are making big profits now, but it is regarded as a bad sign that they have delayed release of their reserves figure.


ASBO

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Thursday 31st January 2008
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Zod said:
It's my fault for drivinfg a car that gives me an average of 12mpg on Optimax.
yes

Think of the Kids.

Slightly O/T, but 'tother day one of our clients praised me for doing my bit for oil consumption, which given that our government is so heavily relaint on the industry, is slightly ironic hehe

danrc

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240 months

Thursday 31st January 2008
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Keep it coming Shell - the more you make, the better i do biggrin


Adrian W

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Thursday 31st January 2008
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Olf said:
Adrian W said:
spaximus said:
This is good news all round, unless you are a wit of a union leader (Tony Woodley unite) who is demanding a windfall tax. The coporation tax they will pay to the uk is huge and the shareholders will do well, and that is everyone with a pension. I cannot belive how these dimwits can turn success like this into a problem.
Corporation tax is only 30% and thats after they have capatalised and depreciated everything thay possibly can, with such a complicated consolidation none of us will ever know the number they first thought of.

You could say good luck to them, but i'm sure all of the other oil companies are going to report similar spectacular results
Just for balance. Shell invested about $2bn a month in 2007.

Oil doesn't come cheap end of.
reinvesting is tax efficient, in percentage terms a lot of companies invested much more. I know if i showed those sort of superprofits my customers would walk but when it comes to fuel we cant