205 16V Conversion

[Soton Pug]

Morning Gents, I am considering doing a winter rebuild on my 1.9gti on a J plate ( i now it's early but preperation is everything). I have aquired an absoltly mint MI16 Head from a J plate 405. The question is, as the head came from a 1.9 block in the 405, will it fit straight onto my current block or is that just complete rubbish? If someone can put me on the right track i'd appriecate it, it would also give me a reason to go and get myself another engine and the wife couldn't refuse me!

Any tips would be great, i know my way around the 1.9 engine but the MI16 is a totally new beast to me...

Cheers

[GnuBee]

Look in forum.205GtiDrivers.com this has been covered a number of times IIRC.

[Soton Pug]

Ok will do, tvm.

[TEKNOPUG]

No, basically.

The 8v & 16v blocks are not the same – you’d need to go to a lot of hassle to get it all modded so that the water lines meet up. Only worth it for racing where regs dictate car must use original block. Easy enough just to find and use a 16v block. Personally, I’d sell the 8v engine and Mi16 head and fit a GTi-6 lump complete (or turbocharge the 8v).

[Soton Pug]

Thanks Teknopug, better that i knew before i took the 8V apart with the wrong intentions. GTI6 sounds good, 8V Turbo sounds even better! May have to go back to the drawing board and have a re-think. Any idea's of were Turbo's come from for the XU 8V engines? (405 Weasel?) I've seen them on Ebay before but the pictures and write ups have never filled me with confidence. Cheers

[Simes205]

Teknopug runs a Turbo Technics 8v 1.9 but I think you'll find that the 406 or Xantia 2.0 Turbo might be a lot easier and cheaper to source.
Covered a lot of times on 205gtidrivers.

Gti-6 engine is currently the popular choice these days, reliable and powerful for cheap (relative!).

[Matthew_Eames]

the Mi16 is alloy though (the early 1.9) so is lighter than the GTI6 lump, meant to be better around the corners

[Simes205]

Matthew_Eames said:

the Mi16 is alloy though (the early 1.9) so is lighter than the GTI6 lump, meant to be better around the corners

True, I have one. But for track use it suffers horrific oil surge through long bends and they are all getting old.

[TEKNOPUG]

Very little point in using an Mi16 now unless you can get one VERY cheap. GTi-6 are a better engine in every area and prices are also cheap. 406/Xantia turbo transplants are very popular too due to the availability of engines. Good for upto 200bhp before you have to start spending serious cash. Turbocharging the 1.9 8v gives more pleasing results (in my opinion) and becomes more economically attractive once you start aiming over 200bhp.

GTi-6 for a track orientated car though, no question.

[Soton Pug]

Thanks all, i think i'm going to have a look at the 406/Xantia option as although i'd love to track it, i haven't got the time at the moment so these is purely for fast road use (Until i can start working from home or win the Lottery).

Ok, off to ebay, autotrader.com ...