climate change debunked (as expected)
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http://www.adamsmith.org/blog/environment/unethica...
The 2008 International Conference on Climate Change, which took place from March 2-4 in New York City, changed the momentum of man-made climate change scepticism. The groundbreaking event at Times Square, with 100 scientists and more than 500 attendees, exposed what were described as "absolute horror stories" with biased reporting, even in scientific journals. Science journalists were accused of "outrageous and unethical behaviour" with regard to the censoring or suppressing critical studies on climate research.
Among the many speakers in New York, three leading scientists presented solid, dramatic and verified new material completely refuting the myth that climate change was caused by mankind's production of carbon dioxide... The number of scientists attending the conference apparently well exceeded the number involved in the IPCC process... I felt touched by 100 scientists with the courage to put their convictions in writing to the United Nations' Bali climate summit. The scientists from 17 nations include internationally eminent climatologists – and authors of the scientific report prepared for the United Nations' Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (IPCC) including some IPCC Lead Authors.
A new 'Manhattan Declaration on Climate Change' was initiated stating "that carbon dioxide (CO2) is not a pollutant but rather a necessity for all life." Senator Inhofe’s register, put together by the USA Senate's Environment and Public Works Committee, already contains more than 500 scientists who previously endorsed the IPCC views but have meanwhile changed their mind. The sceptics have reached a consensus on four key points:
1) The Earth is currently well within natural climate variability. 2) Almost all climate fear is generated by unproven computer model predictions. 3) An abundance of peer-reviewed studies continue to debunk rising CO2 fears and, 4) "Consensus" has been manufactured for political, not scientific purposes.
The 2008 International Conference on Climate Change, which took place from March 2-4 in New York City, changed the momentum of man-made climate change scepticism. The groundbreaking event at Times Square, with 100 scientists and more than 500 attendees, exposed what were described as "absolute horror stories" with biased reporting, even in scientific journals. Science journalists were accused of "outrageous and unethical behaviour" with regard to the censoring or suppressing critical studies on climate research.
Among the many speakers in New York, three leading scientists presented solid, dramatic and verified new material completely refuting the myth that climate change was caused by mankind's production of carbon dioxide... The number of scientists attending the conference apparently well exceeded the number involved in the IPCC process... I felt touched by 100 scientists with the courage to put their convictions in writing to the United Nations' Bali climate summit. The scientists from 17 nations include internationally eminent climatologists – and authors of the scientific report prepared for the United Nations' Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (IPCC) including some IPCC Lead Authors.
A new 'Manhattan Declaration on Climate Change' was initiated stating "that carbon dioxide (CO2) is not a pollutant but rather a necessity for all life." Senator Inhofe’s register, put together by the USA Senate's Environment and Public Works Committee, already contains more than 500 scientists who previously endorsed the IPCC views but have meanwhile changed their mind. The sceptics have reached a consensus on four key points:
1) The Earth is currently well within natural climate variability. 2) Almost all climate fear is generated by unproven computer model predictions. 3) An abundance of peer-reviewed studies continue to debunk rising CO2 fears and, 4) "Consensus" has been manufactured for political, not scientific purposes.
Sounds like more of what these guys said http://www.greatglobalwarmingswindle.com/
Interesting viewing.
Interesting viewing.
crisisjez said:
Sorry but does this really come as a surprise to anyone on here.
Politicians are all a bunch of lying greedy self important ass*oles and IMO voting is just a waste of a morning.
Follow their lead, do exactly what is best for you and don`t listen to anyone.
I agree whole-heartedly - if a politician says it's raining outside, I'll go & look rather than believe him!Politicians are all a bunch of lying greedy self important ass*oles and IMO voting is just a waste of a morning.
Follow their lead, do exactly what is best for you and don`t listen to anyone.
What a sorry state to be in?
We all knew the GW, CC or MMGW was total b
ks but one question remains.
The Gov,ts of the world have been telling us that it was real for a decade or so and, as we have learned recently, funding groups to put pressure on the EU to combat CC.
If you tell enough of the average population that there is MMGW and its their/our fault and that they must ba taxed to save the planet, eventually it becomes accepted as truth.
Therefore those of us who do the kings new clothes bit and state the blindingly obvious areactually seen as being less credible while our respective governments butt fk us on a daily basis.
So the question is.
How do you actually send a clear massage to the government, EU and UN that they have been rumbled, the game is up and we will take no more?
Yes we can vote the current party out (eventually and on their time table) but the next party will just take up where these left off or could be worse.
You have no real vote of who is in power or make policy in the EU.
You have no real say in who make policy in the UN.
WHAT DO WE DO???
ks but one question remains.The Gov,ts of the world have been telling us that it was real for a decade or so and, as we have learned recently, funding groups to put pressure on the EU to combat CC.
If you tell enough of the average population that there is MMGW and its their/our fault and that they must ba taxed to save the planet, eventually it becomes accepted as truth.
Therefore those of us who do the kings new clothes bit and state the blindingly obvious areactually seen as being less credible while our respective governments butt f
k us on a daily basis.So the question is.
How do you actually send a clear massage to the government, EU and UN that they have been rumbled, the game is up and we will take no more?
Yes we can vote the current party out (eventually and on their time table) but the next party will just take up where these left off or could be worse.
You have no real vote of who is in power or make policy in the EU.
You have no real say in who make policy in the UN.
WHAT DO WE DO???
No it was the constant nagging a lack of sex that won that one!
but seriously
Any protest led by a Car related organisation (PH or Porsche) gives the Kens of this world th eupper hand.
They will stand on their stage (which they have unlimited access to) and declare to the massed media that we are wrong, selfish, greedy, dangerous and should be punished, severly.
This battel is classic good versus evil with evil being the massive empire
Cue StarWars music
but seriously
Any protest led by a Car related organisation (PH or Porsche) gives the Kens of this world th eupper hand.
They will stand on their stage (which they have unlimited access to) and declare to the massed media that we are wrong, selfish, greedy, dangerous and should be punished, severly.
This battel is classic good versus evil with evil being the massive empire
Cue StarWars music
I do agree with reducing waste and polution. So see the benefits of clean burning engines and no plastic bags and bottles littering the place. As JC said recently its a waste of good petrochemicals 
We should look at reducing packaging etc and increase recycling because I think the real agenda is energy independance. Afterall the West is currently massively funding at time fundamentalist Islamic states with oil dollars. Thats the real agenda. The global warming angle is pure anal intrusion.
We should look at reducing packaging etc and increase recycling because I think the real agenda is energy independance. Afterall the West is currently massively funding at time fundamentalist Islamic states with oil dollars. Thats the real agenda. The global warming angle is pure anal intrusion.
ringram said:
I do agree with reducing waste and polution. So see the benefits of clean burning engines and no plastic bags and bottles littering the place. As JC said recently its a waste of good petrochemicals
We should look at reducing packaging etc and increase recycling because I think the real agenda is energy independance. Afterall the West is currently massively funding at time fundamentalist Islamic states with oil dollars. Thats the real agenda. The global warming angle is pure anal intrusion.
I agree We should look at reducing packaging etc and increase recycling because I think the real agenda is energy independance. Afterall the West is currently massively funding at time fundamentalist Islamic states with oil dollars. Thats the real agenda. The global warming angle is pure anal intrusion.
We should be a bit tidier but littering plastic bags are the visible indicators of a "human messy bastid syndrome" not of polution caused by placky bags.
And IMHO just landfilling crap should be reduced if possible.
What REALLY boils my piss is being bum raped at every opportunity by Town Council, District Council, County Council, Government, and the EU on the basis of a flawed science.
What is called for is some joined up thinking from a clean shhet of paper as opposed to thinking how to get more cash out of my pockets.
eg How much of that which goes into landfill and polutes the soil and watertable is combustible and could be burned in powerstations?
What is the polution (FA to do with carbon)of mining fuels other wise?
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