Vogue Vs HSE

[drfrank]

Considering a RR

Not sure about Petrol Vs Diesel

(is there much difference in MPG ?) judging from comments on here I am beginning to think not.

Also, what are the main differences between the Vogue and HSE ?

Thanks for any help

[YamR1V64motion]

the Vouge has better seats,better sound system and sat nav cant really think of much else.

[drfrank]

Thanks

[JohnnyHayward]

Plus bigger wheels, heated seats front and rear, sunroof, heated steering wheel and more bits of wood.

[RedLeicester]

Every dealer I spoke to told me to buy a diesel...... my heart said buy the V8 and be damned.

Assuming you're talking recent models, then the 4.4 V8 will net around an average of 19mpg whilst being substantially swifter and smoother than the 3.0 diesel which with a following wind may manage 22 or 23..... For us, doing around 10k a year in the car, the inflated price of diesel and the pitiful economy gains were enough to solidify our thoughts and damn the dealers - so we bought a V8 privately. Lovely beast.

Currently looking at changing for a Disco 3 (wifey thinks the 7 seats will help with the school run clobber), and will once again go for the V8 - particularly as with the Discos if seems the same money will buy you a V8 a year younger than an equivalent diesel! Oh and before the eco-wieners appear, we live in the sodding country, so the school run is not only damned muddy, but 1/3 in several places.

[drfrank]

Thanks RedLeicester, I had heard that the mpg was not hugely different. Looks like it may be the V8 then !

Any tips as to what to look out for/avoid ?

Thanks again

[JamesK]

I am currently lusting after a V8 RR. I see some that have been LPG'd but not nearly as many as the P38 model - is there a reason for this?

I know the P38 accomodated a 95 litre LPG tank in the spare wheel area - I assume the new model can't do this? If it takes half the boot space it's a non runner for me.

[RedLeicester]

drfrank said:

Thanks RedLeicester, I had heard that the mpg was not hugely different. Looks like it may be the V8 then !

Any tips as to what to look out for/avoid ?

Thanks again

No worries chap, drop me a mail and I'll run you through all the stuff I spent wasting my work time researching!

[RedLeicester]

JamesK said:

I am currently lusting after a V8 RR. I see some that have been LPG'd but not nearly as many as the P38 model - is there a reason for this?

I know the P38 accomodated a 95 litre LPG tank in the spare wheel area - I assume the new model can't do this? If it takes half the boot space it's a non runner for me.

I can only guess it's partly due to the prepoderance of P38s out there and their relative cheapness. The L322s are still pretty expensive comparatively, so most people are probably more inclined to stomach the fuel bills. Certainly the wheel well under the boot floor is big enough to take a pretty hefty tank (it'll take a full-size spare, so it's enormous!)

[shentodj]

http://www.pistonheads.com/sales/431973.htm

The classified section has a new RR with LPG conversion, including tank in spare wheel well.

Shentodj

[JamesK]

Good spot. Overpriced though.

[YamR1V64motion]

there was a black Vogue on autotrader for £13800!!, it unfortunatly had noisy tappets though i guess if you were a mechanic that would make a great buy however.

[Noogly]

RedLeicester said:

JamesK said:

I am currently lusting after a V8 RR. I see some that have been LPG'd but not nearly as many as the P38 model - is there a reason for this?

I know the P38 accomodated a 95 litre LPG tank in the spare wheel area - I assume the new model can't do this? If it takes half the boot space it's a non runner for me.

I can only guess it's partly due to the prepoderance of P38s out there and their relative cheapness. The L322s are still pretty expensive comparatively, so most people are probably more inclined to stomach the fuel bills. Certainly the wheel well under the boot floor is big enough to take a pretty hefty tank (it'll take a full-size spare, so it's enormous!)

I've seen LPG L322s advertised a few times and test drove one. It was really lacking on gas, thought the engine was knackered until I switched back to petrol then it picked up fine. Could have been just that installation, but I didn't buy that one!
I've had classic and P38 V8s on LPG, they were great and cheap to run, but I'm not sold on the L322 on gas yet. They're just sooo complicated with computer everything, how's a non landrover person supposed to mess with the fueling on that without causing an error or warning somewhere?
Local LR specialist told me that they won't even service a L322 with gas, too much trouble and potential problems to get involved with.

I'm a great fan of LPG, but I'll probably go for a straight petrol L322 soon.

Just my 2p worth!

Andy

Edited by Noogly on Thursday 27th March 23:44

[DucatiGary]

if installed and serviced propperly a lpg system will not notice any loss of power etc.

the only thing you will loose is a little MPG when running on gas.

i was getting 18.5mpg on petrol, now im getting 17.7 on lpg.

the range rover is possibly one of the best cars to get converted to lpg due to the massive tank not taking up any loading space at all.

i know a couple of people who tried to do it on the cheap and had serious problems that where cured when they took the system off and kept it on petrol.

I paid 2.5k for mine and cannot praise it enough, if your trying to cut corners though its a false economy, so it would seem.

edit to add - landrover not servicing lpg converted cars is also bullst.

for the record.

they may ask for the official cert of installation by the propper LPG installers for warranty repairs etc but nothing else.

(there is a lpg rangie in the classifieds which has landrover warranty and comes with proof in writing from landrover regarding them being fine with the lpg install as long as it was done by a propper official LPG installer and not the 600 quid DIY kit you get on ebay)

Edited by DucatiGary on Saturday 29th March 15:38