Road racing wet sumps

[Rusti Evo]

Just wondering if there is a viable alternative to dry sumping. The Americans seem to buy loads of Canton, Kevco etc sumps with traps doors, baffles and stuff, but I see that even Canton recommend the use of an Accusump as well.

Anybody got any experience?

Stuart

[Steve_D]

Almost all Ultima will be running a winged, trapdoor sump with an Accusump except for those running dry sump.
The acceleration, braking and cornering forces possible with an Ultima make the above almost a given.

Steve

[GTRCLIVE]

If you need the accusump then thats a indiction that you REALY NEED a dry sump setup....
IMHO

[Pb3]

Hello there Stuart, have you got something to tell us all?

[DavidSalama]

Here's why I am installing a dry sump currently. Previous set up, Canton road racing pan with 3Qt accusump. During prolonged right handers at the track, oil pressure would drop to 2 bar. I had to overfill sump to prevent such a drop in oil pressure, but this caused excessive windage and oil usage at the track.

Anyone want a Canton pan and accusump (less than one year old)? Willing to take 1/2 off.

[Rusti Evo]

Apologies for poorly worded post. Have just bought the car off that nice GTR-Gaz and have 4 trackdays booked for April.

So I guess what I'm asking is, whats the chance of it surviving without a dry sump?

[LuckyP]

Rusti Evo said:

Apologies for poorly worded post. Have just bought the car off that nice GTR-Gaz and have 4 trackdays booked for April.

So I guess what I'm asking is, whats the chance of it surviving without a dry sump?

If you need a spanners man to come along to Brands, then give me a shout!!

Nice car, and good to see it kept in the fold!

Pete

Edited by LuckyP on Monday 31st March 08:46

[gtr-gaz]

LuckyP said:

Rusti Evo said:

Apologies for poorly worded post. Have just bought the car off that nice GTR-Gaz and have 4 trackdays booked for April.

So I guess what I'm asking is, whats the chance of it surviving without a dry sump?

If you need a spanners man to come along to Brands, then give me a shout!!

Nice car, and good to see it kept in the fold!

Pete

Pete's the veteran Ultima track day man!

He should be able to spot any potential problems....hopefully!

[LuckyP]

gtr-gaz said:

LuckyP said:

Rusti Evo said:

Apologies for poorly worded post. Have just bought the car off that nice GTR-Gaz and have 4 trackdays booked for April.

So I guess what I'm asking is, whats the chance of it surviving without a dry sump?

If you need a spanners man to come along to Brands, then give me a shout!!

Nice car, and good to see it kept in the fold!

Pete

Pete's the veteran Ultima track day man!

He should be able to spot any potential problems....hopefully!

Erm....there is no substitute for the builder being there!!

I meant I'd be there to PASS the spanners and to throw in the odd comment!!

[bluesatin]

Based on Lucky's past experience with engines at Brands I would suggest you don't invite him!

[LuckyP]

bluesatin said:

Based on Lucky's past experience with engines at Brands I would suggest you don't invite him!

Best not turn up then!! Whoops.

Rusty, where are your track days in April then?

Pete

[Rusti Evo]

Hi Pete,

Whats all this talk of spanners, surely Ultimas are too reliable to need much of that !!!!!!!!

The plan for April:

7th Castle Combe
12th Goodwood
Both these very gentle getting to know the GTR
Set suspension up with the Stig/Plans at Top Gear
21st Goodwood
30th Castle Combe

Got to cobble up some Goodwood friendly silencers double quick. Really looking forward to Silverstone and Snetterton.

Poor little cars going to have a busy year (SBC permitting that is ........

Stuart

[Steve_D]

DavidSalama said:

Here's why I am installing a dry sump currently. Previous set up, Canton road racing pan with 3Qt accusump. During prolonged right handers at the track, oil pressure would drop to 2 bar. I had to overfill sump to prevent such a drop in oil pressure, but this caused excessive windage and oil usage at the track.

Anyone want a Canton pan and accusump (less than one year old)? Willing to take 1/2 off.

How is/was your Accusump wired?
Did it switch directly from the ignition or from the oil pressure switch?

Steve

[DavidSalama]

It is recommended to wire an on off switch separate from the ignition so that you can shut off the accusump while still at high oil pressures and not waiting for a hot idle oil pressure. It also gives you more control on preoiling and shuting it off should it be necessary. At least that is how I understand it.

Dave

[kylemrushall]

Rusti Evo said:

Hi Pete,

Whats all this talk of spanners, surely Ultimas are too reliable to need much of that !!!!!!!!

The plan for April:

7th Castle Combe
12th Goodwood
Both these very gentle getting to know the GTR
Set suspension up with the Stig/Plans at Top Gear
21st Goodwood
30th Castle Combe

Got to cobble up some Goodwood friendly silencers double quick. Really looking forward to Silverstone and Snetterton.

Poor little cars going to have a busy year (SBC permitting that is ........

Stuart

96 bd at goodwood that is going to be hard to pass!!!!

[Rusti Evo]

kylemrushall said:

Rusti Evo said:

Hi Pete,

Whats all this talk of spanners, surely Ultimas are too reliable to need much of that !!!!!!!!

The plan for April:

7th Castle Combe
12th Goodwood
Both these very gentle getting to know the GTR
Set suspension up with the Stig/Plans at Top Gear
21st Goodwood
30th Castle Combe

Got to cobble up some Goodwood friendly silencers double quick. Really looking forward to Silverstone and Snetterton.

Poor little cars going to have a busy year (SBC permitting that is ........

Stuart

96 bd at goodwood that is going to be hard to pass!!!!

Goodwood's going to be a tough one, got to be done though as it's my local track

"Thats right Mr. noise man maximum revs on this is 2000 ............

[k wright]

Do yourself a favor and put a dry sump on the car now.