Dash lights out? - & brake lights?

Dash lights out? - & brake lights?

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the dodger

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2,375 posts

264 months

Thursday 7th August 2003
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Gave the car a wash and rub-down last evening and went for a quick blast round. It was gone 9.30 so getting quite dark and had to put lights on - NO instrument lights at all! Tried twidling the rheostat but made no difference. They were working when I put it to bed last Saturday, but on Sunday I refitted the bolt which hold the small part of the dash (with the air-vent) to the right of steering column. This meant poking a hand up from under the dash whilst laying on my back with head in pedal area. Did I disturb anything here relevant?

Also, not sure if this is anything relevant but I have just noticed my brake lights don't work any more. Wires in place on the switch. Fuse maybe? which one?

Big Al.

68,884 posts

259 months

Thursday 7th August 2003
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There is a push button switch under the steering column that turns the dash light off! Haven't pushed that in error have you?

Other than that can't help.

chimhunter

906 posts

250 months

Thursday 7th August 2003
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Dodge,

Sounds like you hit the dash light switch. To the left of the steering column under the dash is a little push button switch. Press it and you should have dash lights again. The switch to the right is the boot release, although mine is tempremental.

I've also apparently lost my brake lights. The fuse diagram is in the owners manual. Apparently it's twinned with something to do with the windscreen wipers. 20A fuse IIRC. I'll be checking mine for the w/e too.

Anyone got any other ideas what else it could be?

Rob

Trefor

14,635 posts

284 months

Thursday 7th August 2003
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the dodger said:
NO instrument lights at all!


Sounds like you've pushed the button under the LHS of the driver's dash, opposite side of the steering wheel to the boot button.

the dodger said:

Tried twidling the rheostat but made no difference.


Er, what? You mean the knob on the LHS of the steering columm cover? That adjusts the intermittent wipe. There is no dash rheostat that I know of !?!

the dodger said:

Also, not sure if this is anything relevant but I have just noticed my brake lights don't work any more. Wires in place on the switch. Fuse maybe? which one?


Check all the connections where the wires come from the rear of the car to the front - passenger side by the seatbelt the side carpet panel lifts up (velcro'd down) - in here you can see various wires and gubbins - check everything is clicked together tightly.

the dodger

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2,375 posts

264 months

Thursday 7th August 2003
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Thanks for the suggestions guys. I thought I would have to if I'd accidentally pushed the dash light button in - but I don't think I did. I've just been out to my car to check and found it! The button is "OUT" but in this sunlight I can't see if it does anything. Should it be in or out? There are some connectors up behind the r.h. side of the dash but they "feel" OK. Does the feed to pannel/dash light go through here - maybe to the on/off button?

Now time for a - the twidly knob on the side of the streering console was a dash light rheostat on my wedge! Whoops! Forgot what it did on the Chim!

Just checked fuse diag. and brake lights are fused with wipers. Will check wipers on my next fag break.

tvrtim

438 posts

263 months

Thursday 7th August 2003
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Roger,just checked on my car.
When the button is IN the instrument lights are ON.
It looks like your problem is solved.

the dodger

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264 months

Thursday 7th August 2003
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TVR-Tim to the rescue - again!

Many thanks - hope mine's wired up the same!
Just moved my car into the shade and can confirm I am a ! Dash lights have returned!

Down-side is my wipers & washers still work. So still no brake lights - which is I suppose the more important. Not a fuse then, so I guess I'll have a look behind passengers seat flap at the connectors.

tvrtim

438 posts

263 months

Thursday 7th August 2003
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Roger, you may have disturbed the wiring on the brake light switch, which is located at the top of the brake pedal in the footwell.
Good luck.

the dodger

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264 months

Thursday 7th August 2003
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tvrtim said:
Roger, you may have disturbed the wiring on the brake light switch, which is located at the top of the brake pedal in the footwell.
Good luck.

Sorry Tim - from initial post "....just noticed my brake lights don't work any more. Wires in place on the switch. Fuse maybe?....".

I may have disturbed something further along from the brake switch - I'll check later. Thanks.

(p.s. - did I tell you I fixed the cutting-out problem?)

RCA

1,769 posts

269 months

Thursday 7th August 2003
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Fuse could still be blown on the wipers, The circuit contols the park switch and the brake lights. When the fuse goes the brake lights stop working but the wipers don't!!!!, Its the fourth one in from the right 20A, worth checking just in case!!, and if it is blown then you need to check the park switch under the wiper motor and give it a clean. Prone to water ingress!!, just had to replace mine due to same problem!!!
cheers
Rich

the dodger

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2,375 posts

264 months

Friday 8th August 2003
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Thanks Rich. Hmmm - not sure I understand that electrically. Anyhow I'll check tonight - didn't risk another day in it today without brake lights in heavy traffic.

chimhunter

906 posts

250 months

Friday 8th August 2003
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Rich, what is the park switch, where is it and how do I clean it? Or is that in the bible? My brake lights have apparently gone too. I doubt it's water ingress as it hasn't been out in the rain but it's worth checking if the fuse is blown.

Rob

RCA said:
and if it is blown then you need to check the park switch under the wiper motor and give it a clean. Prone to water ingress!!, just had to replace mine due to same problem!!!
cheers
Rich

the dodger

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Friday 8th August 2003
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Chimhunter - show me yours and I'll show you mine. Brake light fix, that is!

RCA

1,769 posts

269 months

Friday 8th August 2003
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Park switch is directly under the wiper motor, you need to turn the motor on its side to get at it as it is attached to the underside. It is a little white unit with two plugs on it. Would have thought its in the bible but haven't looked!!
cheers
Rich

chimhunter

906 posts

250 months

Friday 8th August 2003
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the dodger said:
Chimhunter - show me yours and I'll show you mine. Brake light fix, that is!


Some people. All they think about...

Sure. If I can work it out I'll let you know. I'm checking fuses and the like tonight to get the obvious stuff done first. Don't want to try and mess around with wiper motors if I can avoid it.

Rob


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the dodger

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Friday 8th August 2003
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chimhunter - YHM. No, it's not where to meet for the exposure contest either!

RCA

1,769 posts

269 months

Friday 8th August 2003
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Wiper motor is surprisingly easy to move, just 2 10mm nuts holding a bracket over it, remove these and you can turn it on its side to access the park switch!!

chimhunter

906 posts

250 months

Friday 8th August 2003
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Cheers Rich. Investigations commence when I get home.

Rob

chimhunter

906 posts

250 months

Saturday 9th August 2003
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Fixed mine. It was the brake light switch in the end. The threaded shaft had cracked so the switch wasn't being pressed properly.

Thanks all.

the dodger said:
chimhunter - YHM. No, it's not where to meet for the exposure contest either!

the dodger

Original Poster:

2,375 posts

264 months

Monday 11th August 2003
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Fixed mine too. After checking fuses, wiring runs, connector blocks, tail-light bulb holders and bulbs everything was OK! It turned out to be the switch! Fine on my multi-meter, but not on load! I took it out, wiggled it about a bit and put it back with some slight adjustment to the bracket and it worked!

Then it stopped working. And I spent hours yesterday in the searing heat (plus 100W lead-light in footwell) fannying about re-adjusting the bracket because the swith must be absotutely cock-on in line with the pedal arm otherwise it goes down the side of it and brake lights don't go off! Decided switch has now become intermitant.

Anyone know where I can get new switch mail-order?