Can Safari impersonate IE?

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mouseymousey

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Morning all

I've just joined the darkside and bought myself a MacBook. The straw that broke the camels back wass the latest lot of Vista updates which broke a 3 week old laptop.

Anyway, there's one website that I use a lot that doesn't like Safari, it just displays an incompatible browser page. I can use firefox OK but I really like safari and don't want to have to run 2 browsers side by side. Is there anyway I can get Safari to impersonate IE? The site in question, in case it helps, is www.betdaq.com

As an aside, I have to say I kind of fell for all the talk about how great and simple Macs are but coming from a lifelong PC background I'm not finding them as straightforward as I'd like. I'm sure I'll get used to it though.

Cheers for any help on this.

Matt

cjs

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Tuesday 8th April 2008
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I prefer Firefox to Safari, I've had issues with Hotmail on Safari, also the lack of the drop down history arrow where you type in web addresses, I find annoying.


I came over from PC to Mac two years ago, it took me a while to get totally familiar with Mac, its more difficult if you think with your Windows head on, you will get used to it very quickly. What in particular are you finding difficult?

robbieduncan

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Tuesday 8th April 2008
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Safari can send a User Agent String to the site claiming to be IE, but this does not mean that it will behave like IE (it will still not support ActiveX or any IE bugs). For most sites, especially if they will work with Firefox, this is fine though.

First turn on the debug menu: http://developer.apple.com/internet/safari/faq.htm...

Then restart Safari and use the debug menu to set the User Agent String.

mouseymousey

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robbieduncan said:
Safari can send a User Agent String to the site claiming to be IE, but this does not mean that it will behave like IE (it will still not support ActiveX or any IE bugs). For most sites, especially if they will work with Firefox, this is fine though.

First turn on the debug menu: http://developer.apple.com/internet/safari/faq.htm...

Then restart Safari and use the debug menu to set the User Agent String.
Cool... I'll try that tonight. Thanks!

cjs said:
I came over from PC to Mac two years ago, it took me a while to get totally familiar with Mac, its more difficult if you think with your Windows head on, you will get used to it very quickly. What in particular are you finding difficult?
Hmm, things I'm finding diifficult at the moment:

Lack of a delete and home key (I know I can use 2 keys to perform each function, but it's a pain)

Minimize and Maximize buttons being on the 'wrong' side (just something I'll get used to)

The " and @ being on the 'wrong' keys despite everything being setup for British layout

Not having a task bar with all running applications - Expose works to a degree but doesn't showing running apps if there's no window currently open.

There's a few things that I've figured out, like how to setup a VPN connection, which I could do with my eyes closed in Windows but took time with the Mac. Once you've done these tasks once then it's very easy, it's just that first time smile I also really disliked the 2-finger scroll on the trackpad but I've found an application that lets you scroll with one finger at the side of the trackpad which I much prefer.

I'm getting there slowly, and the sheer difference in speed between the MacBook and the Vista laptop is enough to make me persevere.



robbieduncan

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mouseymousey said:
robbieduncan said:
Not having a task bar with all running applications - Expose works to a degree but doesn't showing running apps if there's no window currently open.
The Dock (at the bottom of the screen) is a combination of the task bar (it shows all running applications) and the quick launch bar (as it also shows non-running applications that you put there for fast access). You can tell the difference between running and non-running applications by the little indicator below the application icon.

mouseymousey

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Aha, there's an indicator on the dock is there? I'll have to look for that!

Thanks.

cjs

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Tuesday 8th April 2008
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Yep no Delete Key is a pain and still drives me nuts after two years! Stupid thing is I use an Apple Bluetooth keyboard when at home and this has a delete key!

All the other stuff will come with time, if you were not so familiar with Windows then it would not be an issue. Persevere with the track pad, two finger scrolling works really well once you are used to it you will love it, also the new Macbook Air and itouch/phone take the trackpad features even further....its the way forward.

HiRich

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Tuesday 8th April 2008
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The Dock shows a little triangle if an application is open. If you click-&-hold on the icon you will see some options, plus a list of any open documents (so you can bring one to the front rather than all of them).

You can add apps to the Dock (open the applications folder and drag the relevant app into the Dock)
You can move them around in the Dock by dragging them into groups.
You can remove less-used apps from the Dock (just drag them away to the Desktop, and they'll disappear in a cloud of dust. This doesn't affect the app, which you can still access from the Applications folder).
If something goes wrong with an app (e.g. can't open a web address), it will bounce in the air to alert you.

You can also add folders, files and website addresses to the Dock (with the latter, grab the icon from the address bar in Safari). Apps always go to the left, folder & files to the right.

Finally, through System Preferences, play with the size and magnification of the Dock. You can release a little bit of screen space, and tailor it to be as unobtrusive yet accessible as possible.

robbieduncan

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HiRich said:
The Dock shows a little triangle if an application is open.
It used to be a little white triangle which was easy to see. With Leopard they changed it to this glowing light thing that can be difficult to see on some backgrounds. Not the best move by Apple...

mouseymousey

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Tuesday 8th April 2008
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some great tips, thanks.

ginettag27

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Tuesday 8th April 2008
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There's always Camino... smile

mouseymousey

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Tuesday 8th April 2008
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Just reporting back with success! Changed the user agent string to IE7 and the site works fine.

Also - thanks for the tips relating to the dock, I've made it smaller and I can also see the little indicator showing open apps.

Cheers all!