Alphax Firefly

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fuoriserie

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270 months

Thursday 17th April 2008
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what do you think of the Alphax firefly ?

http://www.alphax-kitcars.com/Pictures_firefly.php

I've always liked this little roadster, and wonder if this type of kitcar, or something similar in design, will have a comeback in the kitcar industry.



Edited by fuoriserie on Thursday 17th April 11:16

alex_p

217 posts

206 months

Thursday 17th April 2008
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I can't view the page at work but if it is the ex-Onyx Firefly then I'm a big fan. I think the Firecat was slightly better looking and drove a couple of Uno Turbo based ones which were great fun. I think the kitcar industry certainly needs more cheap, unique and sensible cars to draw in new fans who might be put off by £15k plus builds with multi donor cars and hundreds of hoursepower. Something based on a punto (or saxo) with a presentable gel coat finish, not too flashy, with a removable hardtop (as an option to a soft top), that is just as usable as their mum's fiesta but a good bit quicker, on the road for £6k would sell out tomorrow! Make it look a bit like a mini TVR (like the Firecat) and you can put me down for the first one!

fuoriserie

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Thursday 17th April 2008
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alex_p said:
I can't view the page at work but if it is the ex-Onyx Firefly then I'm a big fan. I think the Firecat was slightly better looking and drove a couple of Uno Turbo based ones which were great fun. I think the kitcar industry certainly needs more cheap, unique and sensible cars to draw in new fans who might be put off by £15k plus builds with multi donor cars and hundreds of hoursepower. Something based on a punto (or saxo) with a presentable gel coat finish, not too flashy, with a removable hardtop (as an option to a soft top), that is just as usable as their mum's fiesta but a good bit quicker, on the road for £6k would sell out tomorrow! Make it look a bit like a mini TVR (like the Firecat) and you can put me down for the first one!
I agree with you.........but a few friends of mine told me that they could buy a used mx5 for that kind of money and wouldn't think of a firefly !, just wondering if a different design concept could work on this chassis and ask that kind of money?

I remeber that Bertone worked on a similar idea using the 1992 fiat cinquecento.........

Edited by fuoriserie on Thursday 17th April 14:54

fuoriserie

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Thursday 17th April 2008
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this is the Bertone Rush concept based on a 1992 fiat Cinquecento platform.....pretty much a simlar chassis as the firefly






fuoriserie

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Thursday 17th April 2008
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something similar to the Stimson Buggy maybe ?














Edited by fuoriserie on Thursday 17th April 13:47

alex_p

217 posts

206 months

Thursday 17th April 2008
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A new version based on the latest small Fiat would be good, certainly in the spirit of the original! What kind of kit price are you thinking of? I can't view the pictures at work but will try and have a look at home later...

fuoriserie

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Thursday 17th April 2008
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alex_p said:
What kind of kit price are you thinking of? I can't view the pictures at work but will try and have a look at home later...
haven't thought about it yet......



Edited by fuoriserie on Thursday 17th April 15:15

Kartman

81 posts

245 months

Saturday 19th April 2008
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I think I can talk on this subject with a little authority.... teacher

The Firefly styling was admired by all that saw it, but the basic problem with kit cars like this, especially in the UK, is that there are mainstream designs and too many older kit cars which can be brought for a fraction of the money.

I think Paul Banham was on the right lines by using cut down mainstream cars to provide the chassis....bodies are relatively easy, but chassis manufacture... banghead

fuoriserie

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Monday 21st April 2008
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Kartman said:
I think I can talk on this subject with a little authority.... teacher

The Firefly styling was admired by all that saw it, but the basic problem with kit cars like this, especially in the UK, is that there are mainstream designs and too many older kit cars which can be brought for a fraction of the money.

I think Paul Banham was on the right lines by using cut down mainstream cars to provide the chassis....bodies are relatively easy, but chassis manufacture... banghead
Trevor, nice to see you back !, and I agree with you, Banham did have a great idea for the lower end of the kitcar market, with rebody conversions, and I still think it would work on more modern running gear....

Italo

Chris71

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243 months

Monday 21st April 2008
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Is it still [old generation] Fiat Panda based?

fuoriserie

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Chris71]Is it still [old generation said:
Fiat Panda based?
I think it still is.

Kartman

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245 months

Monday 21st April 2008
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Not aware it has been updated so would assume it is still orginal Panda.....

Interestingly John who I brought the business off at one time had plans to take the project to Spain and build it on cut down Cinquento's to enable him to register them over there.....