996 C4s ENGINE BLOWN HELP - Please !!
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Hi Guys
I picked up my c4s 2002 on Saturday.
I was driving back home Monday afternoon doing about 55mph in 5th when all of a sudden the car juddered and the dash displayed ' ABS FAILURE' get to a porsche dealership immediately
I pooped my pants and rolled her into the layby.
I sat thier with all the lights on the dash and engine would not start?
The garage dealer came and rescued me and said perhaps its a dead battery? we tried new battery.. still no life? he then said try and start her up while I watch from the engine.
Black smoke then appeared and he said your alternator has just gone, dont worry we will take care of it ( only had 2 days) and get it back to you tomorow.
Then sitting at home waiting for them to call and say all fixed come and get her.......... he said you have over revved the car and shot the pistons and the car needs a new engine £8k what do you want to do?
Your help is needed
Many Thanks
I picked up my c4s 2002 on Saturday.
I was driving back home Monday afternoon doing about 55mph in 5th when all of a sudden the car juddered and the dash displayed ' ABS FAILURE' get to a porsche dealership immediately
I pooped my pants and rolled her into the layby.
I sat thier with all the lights on the dash and engine would not start?
The garage dealer came and rescued me and said perhaps its a dead battery? we tried new battery.. still no life? he then said try and start her up while I watch from the engine.
Black smoke then appeared and he said your alternator has just gone, dont worry we will take care of it ( only had 2 days) and get it back to you tomorow.
Then sitting at home waiting for them to call and say all fixed come and get her.......... he said you have over revved the car and shot the pistons and the car needs a new engine £8k what do you want to do?
Your help is needed
Many Thanks
Edited by w8ssa on Tuesday 22 April 20:42
they ahve something in the engine ecu called actual values which has 4 rev ranges i think and this is how they avoid doing jobs under warranty sometimes,what they do is check for rev ranges 3 and 4 and see how many times its been in this band...
usually when piston or something severe goes wrong with engine its usually caused by intermediate shaft letting go at the gearbox end throwing all the timing out.hey presto major damage,plenty of places to get an engine cheaper though
usually when piston or something severe goes wrong with engine its usually caused by intermediate shaft letting go at the gearbox end throwing all the timing out.hey presto major damage,plenty of places to get an engine cheaper though
what warranty cover were you supplied with?. my thoughts are that the car was sold with an unknown fault to them, ask them if they done a pre-inspection on the car, if so ask to see it. at the very least, worst comes to worst they should offer goodwill and help you out with the bill.
M3MTH said:
what warranty cover were you supplied with?. my thoughts are that the car was sold with an unknown fault to them, ask them if they done a pre-inspection on the car, if so ask to see it. at the very least, worst comes to worst they should offer goodwill and help you out with the bill.
I have 3 months or 3000 miles which ever comes sooner included but they have insisted that they will not be held responsible for driver damage.Considering I have had 2 1/2 days driving in this car I think its terrible.
I have a close friend who races for Porsche and he has never heard so much rubbish! he has told me which route to go down though but I just would like to know why this has happened when I have not red lined it or dropped down from 5th to 2nd gear etc?
It just died on me when I was doing 50-55mph.
porscheuro said:
they ahve something in the engine ecu called actual values which has 4 rev ranges i think and this is how they avoid doing jobs under warranty sometimes,what they do is check for rev ranges 3 and 4 and see how many times its been in this band...
usually when piston or something severe goes wrong with engine its usually caused by intermediate shaft letting go at the gearbox end throwing all the timing out.hey presto major damage,plenty of places to get an engine cheaper though
Thanks for your advice, I can confirm that I was only doing 55mph and did not drop down from a high gear to a low gear.usually when piston or something severe goes wrong with engine its usually caused by intermediate shaft letting go at the gearbox end throwing all the timing out.hey presto major damage,plenty of places to get an engine cheaper though
Any other ideas which may of caused this?
They did mention that it has gone into Rev 2 which is why the pistons are shot and bent.??
Look forward to your advice.
Is the broken car the one photographed in your profile?
Was the photograph taken at the dealership you bought it from?
If the answer to both of these questions is "yes", and what you are saying about never over-revving the engine is true, then I am extremely surprised you are in the situation you find yourself in.
Edited to say: If you have just borrowed that image and you didn't purchase from that dealer I will delete this post.
Was the photograph taken at the dealership you bought it from?
If the answer to both of these questions is "yes", and what you are saying about never over-revving the engine is true, then I am extremely surprised you are in the situation you find yourself in.
Edited to say: If you have just borrowed that image and you didn't purchase from that dealer I will delete this post.
Edited by RSGulp on Tuesday 22 April 21:46
RSGulp said:
Is the broken car the one photographed in your profile?
Was the photograph taken at the dealership you bought it from?
If the answer to both of these questions is "yes", then I would be very surprised you are in the situation you find yourself in.
yeah you obviously know who i bought it from? I didnt want to get into bad nameing people as they have been superb up until now.Was the photograph taken at the dealership you bought it from?
If the answer to both of these questions is "yes", then I would be very surprised you are in the situation you find yourself in.
Just cant believe it can happen to me
RSGulp said:
Is the broken car the one photographed in your profile?
Was the photograph taken at the dealership you bought it from?
If the answer to both of these questions is "yes", then I would be very surprised you are in the situation you find yourself in.
Likewise.Was the photograph taken at the dealership you bought it from?
If the answer to both of these questions is "yes", then I would be very surprised you are in the situation you find yourself in.
Sorry to hear you're luck hope you sort this fella surely with a car costing over 30k and the fact you have not had it 2 mins the dealer if it is who i think it is will sort this?
Keep us informed and good luck.
w8ssa said:
RSGulp said:
Is the broken car the one photographed in your profile?
Was the photograph taken at the dealership you bought it from?
If the answer to both of these questions is "yes", then I would be very surprised you are in the situation you find yourself in.
yeah you obviously know who i bought it from? I didnt want to get into bad nameing people as they have been superb up until now.Was the photograph taken at the dealership you bought it from?
If the answer to both of these questions is "yes", then I would be very surprised you are in the situation you find yourself in.
Just cant believe it can happen to me
w8ssa said:
RSGulp said:
Is the broken car the one photographed in your profile?
Was the photograph taken at the dealership you bought it from?
If the answer to both of these questions is "yes", then I would be very surprised you are in the situation you find yourself in.
yeah you obviously know who i bought it from? I didnt want to get into bad nameing people as they have been superb up until now.Was the photograph taken at the dealership you bought it from?
If the answer to both of these questions is "yes", then I would be very surprised you are in the situation you find yourself in.
Just cant believe it can happen to me
Hope H comes good with a rev range investigation, good luck!
As has been explained there are two types of over-rev - 1st is limited by the engine management system and happens when you redline it - no big deal and should not be a problem. The 2nd type is mechanical and happens when the engine is pushed by the wheels to over rev - the engine management cannot correct this - ie put the car in a low gear at speed.
All these are recorded in the on board computer - so it should be a simple case of 'when' the over rev happended. If it was in the last 2 days, then either you did it, if it was prior to this - then the car was sold to you knowing it had one. If the latter is true - then ask for a full refund or trading standards will be called ...
An OPC should be able to provide you with this info from portable diagnostic equipment.
All these are recorded in the on board computer - so it should be a simple case of 'when' the over rev happended. If it was in the last 2 days, then either you did it, if it was prior to this - then the car was sold to you knowing it had one. If the latter is true - then ask for a full refund or trading standards will be called ...
An OPC should be able to provide you with this info from portable diagnostic equipment.
richardb.jones said:
As has been explained there are two types of over-rev - 1st is limited by the engine management system and happens when you redline it - no big deal and should not be a problem. The 2nd type is mechanical and happens when the engine is pushed by the wheels to over rev - the engine management cannot correct this - ie put the car in a low gear at speed.
All these are recorded in the on board computer - so it should be a simple case of 'when' the over rev happended. If it was in the last 2 days, then either you did it, if it was prior to this - then the car was sold to you knowing it had one. If the latter is true - then ask for a full refund or trading standards will be called ...
An OPC should be able to provide you with this info from portable diagnostic equipment.
thanks for your advice.All these are recorded in the on board computer - so it should be a simple case of 'when' the over rev happended. If it was in the last 2 days, then either you did it, if it was prior to this - then the car was sold to you knowing it had one. If the latter is true - then ask for a full refund or trading standards will be called ...
An OPC should be able to provide you with this info from portable diagnostic equipment.
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