Wireless Networks - Harmful Emissions??

Wireless Networks - Harmful Emissions??

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robm3

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4,930 posts

228 months

Monday 19th May 2008
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Just wondering if home wireless networks have harmful emissions?
Reason I ask is our wireless transmitter is located the room next to our young children and I know the signal travels through the fibro wall pretty easily.
Not looking for pure scientific fact just people's opinions.


Munter

31,319 posts

242 months

Monday 19th May 2008
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No. It's about as harmfull as the TV/radio signals we've had for years. Lets face it it's only powerful enough to reach 20 meters or so. Your mobile phone probably has a stonger signal. That can reach miles...

agent006

12,043 posts

265 months

Monday 19th May 2008
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Do you, or did you use a wireless baby monitor?

Mr E

21,710 posts

260 months

Monday 19th May 2008
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Short answer - no, there's no evidence of any effects, harmful or otherwise. It's non ionising radiation which all of use are bathed in every day from a large ball of fusion 8 light minutes away. But hey, lets not let that get in the way of media scare stories.

You know mobile phones can blow petrol stations up and power lines give you cancer. Or AIDS. Or something.

Munter said:
No. It's about as harmfull as the TV/radio signals we've had for years. Lets face it it's only powerful enough to reach 20 meters or so. Your mobile phone probably has a stonger signal. That can reach miles...
Wireless max tx power, 100mW.
TV transmitter max tx power - something in the order of 10Kw. So 5 orders of magnitude more.
3G phone absolute max transmit power is 36dBm - which is 4W, and that's very unusual. Usually they're at something like -30 to 10dBm (so peaking at 10mW) depending on radio conditions.

LukeBird

17,170 posts

210 months

Monday 19th May 2008
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My post has disappeared! confused
Anyhow, no, nothing to worry about in my opinion smile

Jakestar

436 posts

192 months

Tuesday 20th May 2008
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Agree that they are not harmful. Having studied occupation health and safety throughout my degree (although not specific relating to wireless networks or non-ionising raditation in general) I have a decent understand of the general consensus regarding published literature.

Many studies have been conducted on this topic, some conflicting but the vast majority state there is no adverse health effect smile

The same can also be said for mobile phones, despite the media coverage the evidence thus far is inconclusive with as many studies showing no connection as those that showed an association.

Just cause I thought id put my research skills to the test

Royal Society of Canada has an “Expert Panel on Potential Health Risks of Radiofrequency Fields from Wireless Telecommunication Devices,” and their most recent update (2004) notes that “all of the authoritative reviews completed within the last two years have concluded that there is no clear evidence of adverse health effects associated with RF fields” (Royal Society of Canada 2004).
http://www.pubmedcentral.nih.gov/articlerender.fcg...

Definatly nothing to worry about, for the reasons already given smile

sadako

7,080 posts

239 months

Tuesday 20th May 2008
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If there was a health risk for 100mW radios, then the emergency services who have been using 10W or more radios for decades would have shown side effects by now.

bogie

16,403 posts

273 months

Tuesday 20th May 2008
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I like the scare story from some school teacher who complained of headaches...then continued using his mobile phone, putting out 10X the power of the wireless access points in his classroom...waht a load of tosh ! ...I work in the networking industry, designing these things, if there was any chance of harm to the health then numerous companies from the chip vendors, to the end manufacturers would be sued by now ..

tank slapper

7,949 posts

284 months

Tuesday 20th May 2008
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Mr E said:
TV transmitter max tx power - something in the order of 10Kw.
And the rest - Crystal Palace analogue TV transmitters are 1MW, and have been for a long time. I haven't heard of increased ill effects in those living near it. Digital transmitters are a lot less powerful though.

mcflurry

9,100 posts

254 months

Tuesday 20th May 2008
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Wifi waves give you 3 heads and 6 fingers *

  • This is based on an article in the Sunday papers so must be truewink

Mr E

21,710 posts

260 months

Tuesday 20th May 2008
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tank slapper said:
Mr E said:
TV transmitter max tx power - something in the order of 10Kw.
And the rest - Crystal Palace analogue TV transmitters are 1MW, and have been for a long time. I haven't heard of increased ill effects in those living near it. Digital transmitters are a lot less powerful though.
Sweet. What's the range on that thing?

robm3

Original Poster:

4,930 posts

228 months

Wednesday 21st May 2008
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Guy's, thank you for the responses.
I do love the wealth of knowledge of Pistonheads!

Now, if someone could post a request for procurement details of HGV's or Warehouse Efficiency Methods I too could shine smile


bulldog_1

16 posts

192 months

Wednesday 21st May 2008
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I know, you learn a lot

JustinP1

13,330 posts

231 months

Wednesday 21st May 2008
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robm3 said:
Guy's, thank you for the responses.
I do love the wealth of knowledge of Pistonheads!

Now, if someone could post a request for procurement details of HGV's or Warehouse Efficiency Methods I too could shine smile
Do you actually use 'kan ban' or whatever the stock efficiency method is or is that just A level business mumbo jumbo? smile

robm3

Original Poster:

4,930 posts

228 months

Thursday 22nd May 2008
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JustinP1 said:
robm3 said:
Guy's, thank you for the responses.
I do love the wealth of knowledge of Pistonheads!

Now, if someone could post a request for procurement details of HGV's or Warehouse Efficiency Methods I too could shine smile
Do you actually use 'kan ban' or whatever the stock efficiency method is or is that just A level business mumbo jumbo? smile
Kan Ban is used in manufacturing mainly and is really a bit of mumbo jumbo, it basically describes when to trigger a refill of components at a certain point.
You'll mainly see it in Powerpoint Presentations done by consultants right after they've mentioned JIT (Just in Time), FIFO (First in First Out) LIFO and all other acronyms they like to use.

"I'm a six sigma green belt and you?"

Munter

31,319 posts

242 months

Thursday 22nd May 2008
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robm3 said:
"I'm a six sigma green belt and you?"
"Me? I'm beating you at bullsiht bingo. Carry on." hehe
edit:to add smilies smile

Edited by Munter on Thursday 22 May 10:34

tank slapper

7,949 posts

284 months

Thursday 22nd May 2008
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Mr E said:
tank slapper said:
Mr E said:
TV transmitter max tx power - something in the order of 10Kw.
And the rest - Crystal Palace analogue TV transmitters are 1MW, and have been for a long time. I haven't heard of increased ill effects in those living near it. Digital transmitters are a lot less powerful though.
Sweet. What's the range on that thing?
Crystal Palace is the main TV transmitter for London, so it covers most of that area - I am just outside London on the opposite side to it and it is our TV transmitter. Even so, there are still areas that have small repeater transmitters because of holes in the coverage caused by hills and buildings etc. It needs such a high power because analogue TV requires a strong signal to ensure minimal noise, which shows up as snow in the picture. Digital transmissions can be much less powerful because the receiver only has to be able to discriminate the digital data, and can ignore the noise.