Petrol Company Boycott

Petrol Company Boycott

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dasherdiablo1

Original Poster:

3,532 posts

222 months

Wednesday 28th May 2008
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It's easy to make this happen. Just buy your petrol at Shell, Asda,Tesco, Sainsburys, Morrisons Jet etc.
I.e. Boycott BP and Esso.

We are hitting 116.9 pence a litre in some areas now, soon we will be faced with paying £1.20 a ltr. Philip Hollsworth offered this good idea:

Now that the oil companies and the OPEC nations have conditioned us to think that the cost of a litre is CHEAP, we need to take aggressive action to teach them that BUYERS control the market place not sellers. With the price of petrol going up more each day, we consumers need to take action. The only way we are going to see the price of petrol come down is if we hit someone in the pocket by not purchasing their Petrol! And we can do that WITHOUT hurting ourselves. Here's the idea:

For the rest of this year DON'T purchase ANY petrol from the two biggest oil companies (which now are one), ESSO and BP.

If they are not selling any petrol, they will be inclined to reduce their prices. If they reduce their prices, the other companies will have to follow suit. But to have an impact we need to reach literally millions of Esso and BP petrol buyers. It's really simple to do!!

Acting together we can make a difference . If this makes sense to you, please pass this message on.

PLEASE HOLD OUT UNTIL THEY LOWER THEIR PRICES

Just spread the word and buy your petrol at Shell, Asda,Tesco, Sainsburys, Morrisons Jet etc.
I.e. Boycott BP and Esso. (this also means we get to treat our 'special cars' to Shell Optimax for the foreseeable future!)

dasherdiablo1

Original Poster:

3,532 posts

222 months

Wednesday 28th May 2008
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Just had another thought....we should try and get some window stickies made up so people can put them in their cars to remind themselves & inform other road users.

What do people think?????

fatboy b

9,500 posts

217 months

Wednesday 28th May 2008
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Do you really think that Tesco's/Sainsbury's and the like have their own north-sea oil rigs, and refineries?

GreenV8S

30,210 posts

285 months

Wednesday 28th May 2008
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dasherdiablo1 said:
It's easy to make this happen. Just buy your petrol at Shell, Asda,Tesco, Sainsburys, Morrisons Jet etc.

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For the rest of this year DON'T purchase ANY petrol from the two biggest oil companies (which now are one), ESSO and BP.
Oh dear, it sounds as if this stupid chain letter is doing the rounds again.

Where do you suppose Asda, Tesco, Sainsburys etc buy their petrol from? The oil companies won't give a damn which filling stations you buy from, they'll supply petrol to anyone that will sell it. If your proposed campaign was successful, all you would succeed in doing is pushing the cost up slightly (by reducing competition) and drive some local filling stations out of business (which will reduce the competition in your area even further and make further price rises more likely in future).

mmm-five

11,246 posts

285 months

Wednesday 28th May 2008
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How about, for one week this year, EVERYONE refuses to go to work, or everyone refuses to vote, pay council tax, income tax, etc.

We could call it a national strike - or something similar?

dasherdiablo1

Original Poster:

3,532 posts

222 months

Wednesday 28th May 2008
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So what action do you suggest? Just roll over and play dead??????

The Point, is that we are all well aware that Sainsbury's etc do not have their own rigs! But it is a show of strength. It is to prove that we are not prepared to be constantly ripped off.

With regards to the comment about chain letter going round again.....do you think if we were content we would keep sending it? The reason it is still being circulated is because people are desperate to do anything that may invoke change.

A person without hope is a sad and desperate man. It is because of negative people like you that we are in this position. If more people stood up to be counted they might actually listen!

Edited by dasherdiablo1 on Wednesday 28th May 14:55


Edited by dasherdiablo1 on Thursday 29th May 12:29

Marc W

3,782 posts

212 months

Wednesday 28th May 2008
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This is a copy of an email thats been going around for a few years, with different Petrol companies inserted into it, which is why it doesn't entirely make sense as BP and Esso Aren't one.

It's no problem for me not to use them though seeing as I don't ever buy petrol from them anyway!

HowMuchLonger

3,004 posts

194 months

Wednesday 28th May 2008
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I am sorry but oil companies do not just make money at the pumps.

If you want to hurt them then you have to stop using the following:

Fly for the next year due to the Aviation fuel coming from your "evil" companies.

Import anything, those ships use diesel that comes from the same companies

Packaged food (oil derived plastic)

and a few more:

Clothing Ink
Heart Valves
Crayons
Parachutes
Telephones
Enamel
Transparent tape
Antiseptics
Vacuum bottles
Deodorant
Pantyhose
Rubbing Alcohol
Carpets
Epoxy paint
Oil filters
Upholstery
Hearing Aids
Car sound insulation
Cassettes
Motorcycle helmets
Pillows
Shower doors
Shoes
Refrigerator linings
Electrical tape
Safety glass
Awnings
Salad bowl
Rubber cement
Nylon rope
Ice buckets
Fertilizers
Hair coloring
Toilet seats
Denture adhesive
Loudspeakers
Movie film
Fishing boots
Candles
Water pipes
Car enamel
Shower curtains
Credit cards
Aspirin
Golf balls
Detergents
Sunglasses
Glue
Fishing rods
Linoleum
Plastic wood
Soft contact lenses
Trash bags
Hand lotion
Shampoo
Shaving cream
Footballs
Paint brushes
Balloons
Fan belts
Umbrellas
Paint Rollers
Luggage
Antifreeze


Model cars
Floor wax
Sports car bodies
Tires
Dishwashing liquids
Unbreakable dishes
Toothbrushes
Toothpaste
Combs
Tents
Hair curlers
Lipstick
Ice cube trays
Electric blankets
Tennis rackets
Drinking cups
House paint
Rollerskates wheels
Guitar strings
Ammonia
Eyeglasses
Ice chests
Life jackets
TV cabinets
Car battery cases
Insect repellent
Refrigerants
Typewriter ribbons
Cold cream
Glycerin
Plywood adhesive
Cameras
Anesthetics
Artificial turf
Artificial Limbs
Bandages
Dentures
Mops
Beach Umbrellas
Ballpoint pens
Boats
Nail polish
Golf bags
Caulking
Tape recorders
Curtains
Vitamin capsules
Dashboards
Putty
Percolators
Skis
Insecticides
Fishing lures
Perfumes
Shoe polish
Petroleum jelly
Faucet washers
Food preservatives
Antihistamines
Cortisone
Dyes
LP records
Solvents
Roofing





Edited by HowMuchLonger on Wednesday 28th May 22:13

dasherdiablo1

Original Poster:

3,532 posts

222 months

Thursday 29th May 2008
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HowMuchLonger said:
I am sorry but oil companies do not just make money at the pumps.

If you want to hurt them then you have to stop using the following:
blah, blah, blah
[/footnote]
The list above are by-products, ie produced from the waste of the black stuff. They make very little money from this!

So have you seen the papers yesterday about Gordon Brown going to Scotland to ask them to up production to reduce the costs? Do you understand what this means. Well let me explain. He would rather exhaust the supply sooner so he can still take his bundle of taxes without any impact on his national income. He hopes this will win him votes to keep him in for another term. Thing is you see, what actually happens is this is a very short term approach! When he doesn't get in again it'll be another party that have to clear up the mess he's generated. So they will then look bad for their term and hey guess what he gets voted in again next time round.

The only real option it alternative fuels. Which, if the truth be known have probably already been developed by the oil companies, but they will continue to hide their findings until they know that almost all the oil & gas is gone so they have made a fortune AND they can then hold us to ransom for the new technology when there are no alternatives. What surprises me is how short sighted everyone is to not believe this could actually happen.

Dracoro

8,685 posts

246 months

Thursday 29th May 2008
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There are many ways to protest but boycotting 2 filling stations is naieve, stupid and will achieve nothing apart from making fuel even MORE expensive, is that what you are trying to achieve?

Not doing what you say is NOT lying down dead etc. Please, get a grip and have a think about how best to protest, boycotting 2 brands will NOT work.

How many of you voted for the reduce-fuel-cost party at the local elections? That's one way. Vote out Labour citing fuel costs as the reason, maybe fill in some surveys etc.

ultimately, it's votes that policitians really want so make it a vote winning/losing issue with your local mp etc.

109 Bob

3,762 posts

219 months

Thursday 29th May 2008
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In my experience I've often found Esso to be 1 or 2p cheaper than the competition so no I won't be boycotting them. And as for what I think, I think I'm going down the pub to pay about 25 quid for a gallon of lager!

Skodaku

1,805 posts

220 months

Saturday 31st May 2008
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Dear Dworkdiablo, Shock Horror - UK fuel prices are actually the lowest in Europe...............until the Duty and VAT is added then they're amongst the dearest. Stop reading stupid chain letters and ill-informed tree-huggers conspiracy theories and go boycott the barstewards who are really raping us : H M Government !!

As for "HowMuchLonger's" list of products being "by-products of the black stuff" - you also show that you have absolutely no knowledge of the the petro-chemical industry either.

Been on hols and come back to find some idiot spouting stuff that lost credibility years ago. Strewth.

Good point in there about the price of lager.............lot dearer than petrol, or diesel, and yet no call to boycott Interbrew or whoever for flogging us coloured fizzy water at criminal prices. Funny old world.

Dracoro

8,685 posts

246 months

Saturday 31st May 2008
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Skodaku said:
Good point in there about the price of lager.............lot dearer than petrol, or diesel, and yet no call to boycott Interbrew or whoever for flogging us coloured fizzy water at criminal prices. Funny old world.
Not really a good point though as you have to pay the price of fuel each week as you have to get to work etc. You do not have to drink beer all the time to make a living biggrin

thunderbelmont

2,982 posts

225 months

Sunday 1st June 2008
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Total utter bks.

The reason our fuel is expensive is for two reasons.

One - Crude oil. Price is dependent on supply & demand. Where demand is rocketing (China and India to mention a few), and supply is pretty constant (you can only turn a tap flat out, no more can come out of the hole!)

Two - and most importantly in our case here - is MOST of the price of a litre of fuel. Not satisfied with hitting us with a stload of duty, they then tax the duty on top. There could a few pence reduction in the overall price if the VAT was applied to the base price of the fuel.

Oil exploration companies are making a fair bit of loot out of the price of crude, but due to market competition fuel processing companies (not all of whom have oil wells) make only a small margin on the final product.

The oil companies you refer to, BP and Esso (Exxon-Mobil) differ in their approach. BP is well known to pile money into product development, searching for alternative fuel sources and processes, in a similar vein to Royal Dutch Shell. Exxon-Mobil, the great American giant spends sod all in comparison and reaps the benefit of the work done by our European oil exploration companies. If you stupidly must boycott one, then Esso it is.

We don't have CITGO over here, if we did, you could be perfectly justified boycotting them. Not for the fuel price issue, but because it's the Venezuelan state oil company, and their revenue props up their loon of a dicator Ernesto Chavez (Ken's mate, also a good buddy of our other friend Muhhamir Al Quadaffi [Colonel Gadaffi in English])

In short. Blockade your local labour MP's office.

Better still nobody send in a tax return. Everybody apply for every single benefit going under the sun, even if you're not eligible, everyone apply to reclaim your Vehicle Excise Duty, declare SORN, and park your cars/vans/lorries for a month. EVERYONE on strike, and I mean EVERYONE. Emergency services can carry on as normal (because they'll be draining public resources)

It'll mean some hardships, but if you're clever, it's possible. When the country has come to a complete halt, perhaps just then, these bds might listen to the will of the electorate, and the 10% of them that voted them into a massive majority government.


thinfourth2

32,414 posts

205 months

Sunday 1st June 2008
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dasherdiablo1 said:
It's easy to make this happen. Just buy your petrol at Shell, Asda,Tesco, Sainsburys, Morrisons Jet etc.
I.e. Boycott BP and Esso.

We are hitting 116.9 pence a litre in some areas now, soon we will be faced with paying £1.20 a ltr. Philip Hollsworth offered this good idea:

Now that the oil companies and the OPEC nations have conditioned us to think that the cost of a litre is CHEAP, we need to take aggressive action to teach them that BUYERS control the market place not sellers. With the price of petrol going up more each day, we consumers need to take action. The only way we are going to see the price of petrol come down is if we hit someone in the pocket by not purchasing their Petrol! And we can do that WITHOUT hurting ourselves. Here's the idea:

For the rest of this year DON'T purchase ANY petrol from the two biggest oil companies (which now are one), ESSO and BP.

If they are not selling any petrol, they will be inclined to reduce their prices. If they reduce their prices, the other companies will have to follow suit. But to have an impact we need to reach literally millions of Esso and BP petrol buyers. It's really simple to do!!

Acting together we can make a difference . If this makes sense to you, please pass this message on.

PLEASE HOLD OUT UNTIL THEY LOWER THEIR PRICES

Just spread the word and buy your petrol at Shell, Asda,Tesco, Sainsburys, Morrisons Jet etc.
I.e. Boycott BP and Esso. (this also means we get to treat our 'special cars' to Shell Optimax for the foreseeable future!)
My mother sent you this didn't she

She sends this damn thing out all the time

jmorgan

36,010 posts

285 months

Sunday 1st June 2008
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Sounds like the "stop Esso" campaign finding another route.

dasherdiablo1

Original Poster:

3,532 posts

222 months

Sunday 1st June 2008
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Skodaku said:
Dear Dworkdiablo, Shock Horror - UK fuel prices are actually the lowest in Europe...............until the Duty and VAT is added then they're amongst the dearest. Stop reading stupid chain letters and ill-informed tree-huggers conspiracy theories and go boycott the barstewards who are really raping us : H M Government !!
Err...you are entitled to your opinion & I am entitled to mine.

Skodaku said:
As for "HowMuchLonger's" list of products being "by-products of the black stuff" - you also show that you have absolutely no knowledge of the the petro-chemical industry either.
Do some research and don't be such a tt. All of these products are possible through the exploitation of oil & gas. Respectively the by products used in the above list are of much less value than the fuel! All companies are there to make as large a profit as possible, so everything is used!!!!

Once the fossils fuels are gone....so will most of the ingredients for the above list!

HowMuchLonger

3,004 posts

194 months

Monday 2nd June 2008
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dasherdiablo1 said:
HowMuchLonger said:
I am sorry but oil companies do not just make money at the pumps.

If you want to hurt them then you have to stop using the following:
blah, blah, blah
[/footnote]
The list above are by-products, ie produced from the waste of the black stuff. They make very little money from this!
As well as the by-products I also mentioned aviation fuel and marine diesel. These can'nt be refered to as by products, and a lot of money is made from them. So to proceed with your boycott, you will have to stop buying anything that is imported. The rig I am on at the moment uses about 50 tons of fuel a day when moving.

red rider

208 posts

193 months

Tuesday 3rd June 2008
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Why do people want to take action on the fuel companies, when its so obvious its this stupid fking government thats robbing us all,there the ones to take action against.

dasherdiablo1

Original Poster:

3,532 posts

222 months

Tuesday 3rd June 2008
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HowMuchLonger said:
dasherdiablo1 said:
HowMuchLonger said:
I am sorry but oil companies do not just make money at the pumps.

If you want to hurt them then you have to stop using the following:
blah, blah, blah
[/footnote]
The list above are by-products, ie produced from the waste of the black stuff. They make very little money from this!
As well as the by-products I also mentioned aviation fuel and marine diesel. These can'nt be refered to as by products, and a lot of money is made from them. So to proceed with your boycott, you will have to stop buying anything that is imported. The rig I am on at the moment uses about 50 tons of fuel a day when moving.
Oh ok....I agree with you on that then, I thought you meant just the list. Admittedly this is correct and many people don't see most of the foodstuffs, clothings & electricals also use planes & ships to reach us, so indirectly the picture is much larger!