Anyone moved from a 911 to CSL
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sounds about right Keith. Sadly GT3 doesn't have any rear seats and i have two young sons who love being in the car. At a push I could do without but prefereable to have small back seats.
Drove a 996tt - a great car but a bit too capable to be honest, prefered even getting back into my 3.6. It has a Revo upgreade so makes 340 - 345bhp and moves about quite a bit - 17' alloys. Also prefer 2wd.
Thanks ur advice. Cheers
Drove a 996tt - a great car but a bit too capable to be honest, prefered even getting back into my 3.6. It has a Revo upgreade so makes 340 - 345bhp and moves about quite a bit - 17' alloys. Also prefer 2wd.
Thanks ur advice. Cheers
sounds about right Keith. Sadly GT3 doesn't have any rear seats and i have two young sons who love being in the car. At a push I could do without, but prefereable to have small back seats.
Drove a 996tt - a great car but a bit too capable to be honest, prefered even getting back into my 3.6. It has a Revo upgreade so makes 340 - 345bhp and moves about quite a bit - 17' alloys. Also prefer 2wd.
Thanks ur advice. Cheers
Drove a 996tt - a great car but a bit too capable to be honest, prefered even getting back into my 3.6. It has a Revo upgreade so makes 340 - 345bhp and moves about quite a bit - 17' alloys. Also prefer 2wd.
Thanks ur advice. Cheers
I went from a manual 996c2 (3.6) to a csl!
You wont regret it at all the csl is a truly bonkers car, so many owners have said this but the csl is nothing like an normal M3!
911-csl are totally different cars to drive, but similar to live with. The csl seats and boot are great, also the fact that the rear seats fold 60/40 is a bonus. (i've had 2 semi dismantled mountain bikes in the boot/back of the car!
The rear seats have more room than the 911 but access wise comparable to a 911!
Driving the porker was all about being planted when set up for a corner with masses of mechanical grip etc whilst the csl just doesnt care what shape you enter a corner as it so well balanced but feels loose in comparison at the same time. Planted or drift the csl is easy!
Initially for me the 911 had a greater sense of occasion (my 1st Porsche!) but the csl is such a stunning car with the most amazing noise and even after 18 months i still turn around to look at as i walk away from it. I still love the 911 though and would have another!
The csl is a modern legend.
ps
have a look over in the csl section on mtorque as lots of valuable info in there too!
You wont regret it at all the csl is a truly bonkers car, so many owners have said this but the csl is nothing like an normal M3!
911-csl are totally different cars to drive, but similar to live with. The csl seats and boot are great, also the fact that the rear seats fold 60/40 is a bonus. (i've had 2 semi dismantled mountain bikes in the boot/back of the car!
The rear seats have more room than the 911 but access wise comparable to a 911!
Driving the porker was all about being planted when set up for a corner with masses of mechanical grip etc whilst the csl just doesnt care what shape you enter a corner as it so well balanced but feels loose in comparison at the same time. Planted or drift the csl is easy!
Initially for me the 911 had a greater sense of occasion (my 1st Porsche!) but the csl is such a stunning car with the most amazing noise and even after 18 months i still turn around to look at as i walk away from it. I still love the 911 though and would have another!
The csl is a modern legend.
ps
have a look over in the csl section on mtorque as lots of valuable info in there too!
Part of thei ssue for me is that i have twin boy's, and they are true petrol heads at 12 years old . We even made it to le mans last year in the tt three up with all the camping gear , this yearwill be a bit easier in the family discovery !
This year will be third trip in three years, if i had a car that only had two seats they would kill me!
Turbo is awsome but if you have to carry some pasengers and some gear the csl is the car to have.
I have owned two, one fairly stock , exhaust and cats , the second ap's ,intracx coilovers and exhausts.
Can't wait to get my hands on numbner three , neither can the boys. With a bit of luck i'll have one for lemans this year.
Keith
This year will be third trip in three years, if i had a car that only had two seats they would kill me!
Turbo is awsome but if you have to carry some pasengers and some gear the csl is the car to have.
I have owned two, one fairly stock , exhaust and cats , the second ap's ,intracx coilovers and exhausts.
Can't wait to get my hands on numbner three , neither can the boys. With a bit of luck i'll have one for lemans this year.
Keith
I think it depends what you want the car for?
Everyday use I prefer the 911, but of course if your going to track the car, it swings back to the CSL.
Up to 100 mph the cars feel about the same pace wise on the road, the 911 lump feels a bit stronger in the lower part of the rev range and the steering is better on the Porsche.
The noise from the CSL is something else though, at full chat it's an amazing sound and the values are holding up much better than Porsches.
You need to drive the car on the type of roads you'll be using it on, the setup is a bit stiff imo for every day use, I'm sure you'll get somebody posting "I use mine every day and it's fine", but it’s a bit compromised for B roads, thus limiting the amount of power you can put down sometimes on the more lumpy tarmac, on smooth tarmac you'd need a GT3 to keep up though
Everyday use I prefer the 911, but of course if your going to track the car, it swings back to the CSL.
Up to 100 mph the cars feel about the same pace wise on the road, the 911 lump feels a bit stronger in the lower part of the rev range and the steering is better on the Porsche.
The noise from the CSL is something else though, at full chat it's an amazing sound and the values are holding up much better than Porsches.
You need to drive the car on the type of roads you'll be using it on, the setup is a bit stiff imo for every day use, I'm sure you'll get somebody posting "I use mine every day and it's fine", but it’s a bit compromised for B roads, thus limiting the amount of power you can put down sometimes on the more lumpy tarmac, on smooth tarmac you'd need a GT3 to keep up though
I went from a 965 Turbo to a CS.. similar..!
The out of roundabout / corner exit punch is no where near the Turbo.. it was stunning..
But on balance, I would have the BMW any day, its soooo much more civilised, predictable, not so fuel load / tyre pressure sensitive, and the CS slides in the wet like i wouldn't dream of doing in the Porsche.. not even close.. it was evil in the wet..
My next one will be a GT3 / RS.. then perhaps it will be as much fun.. but for 3 times the price it bl**dy well ought to be too..!
The out of roundabout / corner exit punch is no where near the Turbo.. it was stunning..
But on balance, I would have the BMW any day, its soooo much more civilised, predictable, not so fuel load / tyre pressure sensitive, and the CS slides in the wet like i wouldn't dream of doing in the Porsche.. not even close.. it was evil in the wet..
My next one will be a GT3 / RS.. then perhaps it will be as much fun.. but for 3 times the price it bl**dy well ought to be too..!
I've just done the total opposite, gone from a CSL to a C4S!!! lol
The CSL is a cracking motor, I had it for nearly 2 years, but after owning 3 M3's for the past nearly 5 years I was long overdue a change! They are 2 totally different cars, the CSL is a very fast, capable car which doesn't draw much attention to itself, the C4S is the opposite!
Real world driving I would say there is nothing in it performance wise, maybe on a straight from stand still in the DRY the CSL would pull a couple of car lengths but only in ideal conditions.
For what I need out of a car at this point in my life the 911 is perfect, I love having a few toys to play with after having the CSL for so long, but the CSL is a magnificent piece of motoring history and the noise is amazing at full chat! Don't be fooled into buying from an indy though, these cars are much better bought from an enthusiast over on mtorque than lining the pocket of a dealer who just "flips" the cars.
Good luck and if I can help in any way just get in touch!
The CSL is a cracking motor, I had it for nearly 2 years, but after owning 3 M3's for the past nearly 5 years I was long overdue a change! They are 2 totally different cars, the CSL is a very fast, capable car which doesn't draw much attention to itself, the C4S is the opposite!
Real world driving I would say there is nothing in it performance wise, maybe on a straight from stand still in the DRY the CSL would pull a couple of car lengths but only in ideal conditions.
For what I need out of a car at this point in my life the 911 is perfect, I love having a few toys to play with after having the CSL for so long, but the CSL is a magnificent piece of motoring history and the noise is amazing at full chat! Don't be fooled into buying from an indy though, these cars are much better bought from an enthusiast over on mtorque than lining the pocket of a dealer who just "flips" the cars.
Good luck and if I can help in any way just get in touch!
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