lewis given 10 grid penalty
lewis given 10 grid penalty
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jeff666

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2,458 posts

220 months

Sunday 8th June 2008
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just heard this on bbc1 news, hamilton to be given 10 grid penalty at next race, makes you wonder if the politics of last year are returning,he accepts it was a mistake same as kimi did at monaco last race when he accidently took out the force india car.

matt3001

1,999 posts

226 months

Sunday 8th June 2008
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its been applied to rosberg as well you will find

Chrisgr31

14,275 posts

284 months

Sunday 8th June 2008
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jeff666 said:
just heard this on bbc1 news, hamilton to be given 10 grid penalty at next race, makes you wonder if the politics of last year are returning,he accepts it was a mistake same as kimi did at monaco last race when he accidently took out the force india car.
Although there is no doubt he should have stopped at the end of the pitlane due to the red light I wonder how visible it was to him, bearing in mind that he had 2 cars in front who had almost hit each other, and in turn he was also hit from behind, albeit after he had hit the Ferrari.

Why wasn't the guy that hjit him also given a penalty?

I'd love to see the in-car coverage from Hamilitons car of that incidence.

flemke

23,482 posts

266 months

Sunday 8th June 2008
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Chrisgr31 said:
Why wasn't the guy that hjit him also given a penalty?
matt3001 said:
its been applied to rosberg as well you will find

NeilBeforeZod

636 posts

256 months

Sunday 8th June 2008
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The guy who hit him was also given the same penalty. That was Rosberg.
It's unfortunate, but a collision in the pit lane is damn dangerous. Having an avoidable one is cause for punishment, so I think the penalty is valid.

Have we not seen similar penalties applied in the past for avoidable pit lane incidents?

It's a shame too, he was pretty much guaranteed a win or some decent points.

CivicMan

2,211 posts

230 months

Sunday 8th June 2008
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This'll be an FIA decision then presumably.....?

Andy M

3,755 posts

288 months

Sunday 8th June 2008
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I'm a fan of Lewis', but I'm glad to see such a penalty given. Totally avoidable, and a silly mistake.

Nick M

3,632 posts

252 months

Sunday 8th June 2008
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Andy M said:
I'm a fan of Lewis', but I'm glad to see such a penalty given. Totally avoidable, and a silly mistake.
Indeed, and while there are all sorts of things which could have helped to avoid it, like a clear call from the pit wall, it's just like the classic rear-ending you see on roundabouts so many times - "Sorry mate, I didn't see you - I thought you'd gone !!"

It's also a double whammy of a penalty. He'll have to get into Q3, and to minimise the damage you'd expect him to run light so, in effect, he ends up 11th on the grid at the start. In front of him will be a car which didn't make Q3 and hence has a lot more options on terms of strategy and he'll have to nail that car and several others in front if he's to stand any chance of getting a decent result.

Isn't the French GP often a race which features 2 or 3 stop strategies as being commonplace ? If so, then the top few cars might also be running relatively light on a 3 stop strategy so even 11th on the grid could be tricky !!

belleair302

7,008 posts

236 months

Sunday 8th June 2008
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What made me laugh was before the race he was chatting about his Father's incident last week at 30 mph....and how can anybody have such an accident going so slowly...well just look at what Lewis did this PM. He should know the pit lane stop light rules and if not somebody on the pratts perch should have told him during the pit stop to wait for the pace car....DOH!

BigBen

12,155 posts

259 months

Monday 9th June 2008
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Nick M said:
Andy M said:
I'm a fan of Lewis', but I'm glad to see such a penalty given. Totally avoidable, and a silly mistake.
Indeed, and while there are all sorts of things which could have helped to avoid it, like a clear call from the pit wall, it's just like the classic rear-ending you see on roundabouts so many times - "Sorry mate, I didn't see you - I thought you'd gone !!"

It's also a double whammy of a penalty. He'll have to get into Q3, and to minimise the damage you'd expect him to run light so, in effect, he ends up 11th on the grid at the start. In front of him will be a car which didn't make Q3 and hence has a lot more options on terms of strategy and he'll have to nail that car and several others in front if he's to stand any chance of getting a decent result.

Isn't the French GP often a race which features 2 or 3 stop strategies as being commonplace ? If so, then the top few cars might also be running relatively light on a 3 stop strategy so even 11th on the grid could be tricky !!
If he gets to Q3 then P1 and dropped ten places is he then allowed to re-fuel as Q1 / Q2 qualifiers are. I.E. is the refulling restriction set by actual grid position or qualifying position ?

Ben

mike360

938 posts

257 months

Monday 9th June 2008
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jeff666 said:
lewis given 10 grid penalty
good.

Edited by mike360 on Monday 9th June 00:36

11110111

612 posts

229 months

Monday 9th June 2008
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mike360 said:
jeff666 said:
lewis given 10 grid penalty
good.

Edited by mike360 on Monday 9th June 00:36
could have been something a bit more substantial, was a dumbass thing to do

motormania

1,143 posts

282 months

Monday 9th June 2008
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Chrisgr31 said:
Although there is no doubt he should have stopped at the end of the pitlane due to the red light I wonder how visible it was to him, bearing in mind that he had 2 cars in front who had almost hit each other, and in turn he was also hit from behind, albeit after he had hit the Ferrari.

Why wasn't the guy that hjit him also given a penalty?

I'd love to see the in-car coverage from Hamilitons car of that incidence.
I'd love to know what programme you were watching?

The two cars in front of Lewis had not almost hit! They were side by side and waiting for the red light to change to green. Have you ever seen traffic lights before? Red means stop!!

Rosberg has also been punished. Both he and Lewis should be lucky that;s all they got - a few years ago and it might have been a race ban. That was bloody stupid of both guys and considering these guys are getting paid millions of pounds, you'd think they would know the rules of the sport.

To be honest the biggest shock of the race I was watching today is the fact Kimi didn't punch or headbutt Lewis - I was so expecting it as I would have been fuming myself under the circumstances.

The other person who should have been punched was The Cock. He kept reminding viewers who'd maybe missed the incident that Lewis and Kimi hit each other in the Pits.

NO JAMES!!! LEWIS HIT KIMI or were you watching the same programme as Chris above?

STOP ASRE LICKING YOUR WAY INTO THE HAMILTONS LIFE SO YOU CAN WRITE A BOOK FOR YOUR LITTLE GIMP!!!

11110111

612 posts

229 months

Monday 9th June 2008
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he did say he saw it when speaking to that bloke during the race

Jungles

3,587 posts

250 months

Monday 9th June 2008
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Chrisgr31 said:
To be honest the biggest shock of the race I was watching today is the fact Kimi didn't punch or headbutt Lewis - I was so expecting it as I would have been fuming myself under the circumstances
Yes, I was expecting a Piquet vs Salazar moment. Obviously Kimi wasn't happy, but he took it quite calmly. He just pointed at the lights when walking past Hamilton and gave him a slap in the back, like he was just joking around. biggrin

I'm not much of a Kimi supporter, but it was well handled.

"Mangy Horse" is hard to overtake, so the penalty is a sore one.

Edited by Jungles on Monday 9th June 01:04

Derek Smith

49,726 posts

277 months

Monday 9th June 2008
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Jungles said:
I was expecting a Piquet vs Salazar moment. Obviously Kimi wasn't happy, but he took it quite calmly. He just pointed at the lights when walking past Hamilton and gave him a slap in the back, like he was just joking around. biggrin
I must admit to reading it slightly differently. I thought it showed anger on Kimi's behalf. Strange really when he admitted to making the mistake that took Sutil out at Monaco.

Unlike you, I quite like Kimi but his post race comments in the press are a bit sour grapes. It was an accident. Let it go.

runnersp

1,061 posts

249 months

Monday 9th June 2008
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Kimi rear ended Sutil during a race. Lewis rear ended Kimi because Kimi was stopped at the red light and Lewis just plain didn't stop, it would appear to be two different things.
Slightly off topic, isn't the pit lane red light supposed to just come on and stay red, opposed to flashing as it was yesterday?

jellison

12,803 posts

306 months

Monday 9th June 2008
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The thing that hacked me off when he was interviewed was the fact that he would not admit he had done anything WRONG.

I amd Lewis Hamilton "I can do not wrong!". Cock. Mega driver, but admit when you make a mistake.

BoRED S2upid

21,046 posts

269 months

Monday 9th June 2008
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Good to see the rookie making a few mistakes. maybe the media will stop putting him on such a high pedestall for him to fall off of, hes still a newbie. And the 10 place penalty is justified he caused a 3 car pile up in the pits, a bit different to causing one out on track, and maybe cost Ferrari the race they had after all overtaken Lewis in the pit lane.

andyps

7,819 posts

311 months

Monday 9th June 2008
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BoRED S2upid said:
maybe cost Ferrari the race they had after all overtaken Lewis in the pit lane.
They weren't going to manage it on the track!!