Toyo 15"ers

Toyo 15"ers

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Edt

Original Poster:

5,103 posts

285 months

Wednesday 3rd September 2003
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Right... finally got round to getting 15" T1S on the front of the car. As I recall there's some 'best' way of using new tyres to finish them correctly ? (apart from seeing how much faster I can go around a roundabout, obviously). Anyone know ?

Ed

simpo two

85,504 posts

266 months

Wednesday 3rd September 2003
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Ar eyou thinking of SO3s and the heating cycles needed to get the plasticiser out? Ask shpub about this.

Edt

Original Poster:

5,103 posts

285 months

Wednesday 3rd September 2003
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I might well be... is it just an S03 thing then I wonder?

Regards
Ed

GreenV8S

30,208 posts

285 months

Wednesday 3rd September 2003
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No it applies to all new tyres. First off you need to scrub off the release agent, then you need to heat cycle the tyres at least once. To do this just use moderately firm acceleration, cornering and braking to heat the tyres up to about 50 deg C (hot to the touch but not quite scalding), then leave them to cool down naturally. Each time you do this the tyres will cure a little bit more, but the first time makes the biggest difference. What the heat does is continue the vulcanising process so the tyres are mechnically stiffer and stronger. This means they distort less under load so you get less heat and more grip, and they wear better. You don't *have* to do this to new tyres, but it's well worth it if you're expecting to push the tyres hard and want better grip and durability.

Edt

Original Poster:

5,103 posts

285 months

Wednesday 3rd September 2003
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right.. leaving work in a mo.
Cheers Peter !

I can see it now... ' no really officer.. a chap with a V8S said I HAD TO do this.. ' etc

Ed

simpo two

85,504 posts

266 months

Wednesday 3rd September 2003
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Think I might get a job as 'Release Agent Remover, Heat Cycler and Vulcaniser'

Do I take it that brand new tyres do not offer maximum grip until run in, or is it simply a technique for improving wear?

It's amazing to think that whilst we have the latest alloy wheels and carbon fibre dashboards, we still rely on tree sap mixed with vinegar to keep us the road!

shpub

8,507 posts

273 months

Thursday 4th September 2003
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You forgot the smoking with sulphur. Without it the tyres would melt away...

Goodyear invented vulcanisation but the Goodyear company was founded by someone else who nicked his process and name...

Brand new tyres are like wet vinyl until scrubbed in. The competition tyres etc that were all here about being better when new are a very soft compound and are very different from the road tyres.

Edt

Original Poster:

5,103 posts

285 months

Friday 5th September 2003
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shpub said:
You forgot the smoking with sulphur.


well it is the weekend


Anyhow.. new fronts well & truly scrubbed in now ! Thanks for replies gentlemen

Ed


>> Edited by Edt on Friday 5th September 15:18

griff2be

5,089 posts

268 months

Friday 5th September 2003
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shpub said:
You forgot the smoking with sulphur. Without it the tyres would melt away...

Goodyear invented vulcanisation but the Goodyear company was founded by someone else who nicked his process and name...

Brand new tyres are like wet vinyl until scrubbed in. The competition tyres etc that were all here about being better when new are a very soft compound and are very different from the road tyres.


Well, I stuffed No6 into a tyre wall in practice at Combe on old tyres - this meant I couldn't scrub my brand new tyres in (and heat cycle them) in qualifying, and I therefore had to start the Sprint race on brand spanking new tyres.

Result - the tyres overheated, the pressures on the near side went over 40psi and the car was almost undriveable. 15th place.

Once the tyres had cooled down (heat cycle complete) the pressures weren't an issue, stayed where they should have been - 9th place.

Even with competition slicks, a heat cycle is very important.

Mind you, the way Ed drives, it won't make the slightest bit of difference

Edt

Original Poster:

5,103 posts

285 months

Saturday 6th September 2003
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boo hoo it's true I'm a great soft jessy

sob

Ed

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