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streaky

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19,311 posts

250 months

Sunday 7th September 2003
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A simple job (replacing the electric aerial) has turned into a larger sorting out of the electrics under the transmission tunnel console.

Many of the switches are exhibiting some sign of corrosion on the terminals and contacts.

Has anyone used the modular rocker switches from Vehicle Wiring Products (www.vehicle-wiring-products.co.uk/VWPweb2000/switch-2/switch-2.html), or am I better hunting down the TR7 (???) switchgear?

Streaky

wedg1e

26,808 posts

266 months

Sunday 7th September 2003
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Depends how much of an originality fanatic you are.

You could try Rimmer Bros. in Lincoln: they buy in TR7s for spares. Same switches are used in Lotus Excel, but the later versions; so the ends of the levers are plain, not ribbed. Or so I'm told.

Ian

york33

989 posts

263 months

Sunday 7th September 2003
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Not me personally but I do know many people who have, from my kit car building days. They seem good quality and personally I prefer them to the original switches. Perhaps that's cos half of them are similar to yours.

Spookily enough I'm sat here typing out a shopping list for that very company atm

Dave

gemini

11,352 posts

265 months

Sunday 7th September 2003
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yorkie

this wedge is going to be worth how much?

york33

989 posts

263 months

Sunday 7th September 2003
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Cheek bar steward Less than I've spent on her But I want to keep her for a bit and want her to be reliable(ish ) as unreliabilty can often be a big factor for wanting to sell a car.

streaky

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250 months

Sunday 7th September 2003
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wedg1e said:
Depends how much of an originality fanatic you are.

You could try Rimmer Bros. in Lincoln: they buy in TR7s for spares. Same switches are used in Lotus Excel, but the later versions; so the ends of the levers are plain, not ribbed. Or so I'm told.

Ian
I prefer things that work Anyway, the car was modded by the factory when they had it ...

ralph dodds

148 posts

255 months

Sunday 7th September 2003
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They're all faily standard switches made by Lucas an should be available for not very much. The only difference between what they produce now and the original is that they have EU standard logos on rather than text.
Alternatively next weekend is the Beaulieu Autojumble. I bought a few at a similar event a couple of years back for 50p each.

streaky

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250 months

Sunday 7th September 2003
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I'll pop along, thx - Streaky

RichardR

2,892 posts

269 months

Monday 8th September 2003
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streaky said:
Has anyone used the modular rocker switches from Vehicle Wiring Products, or am I better hunting down the TR7 (???) switchgear?
In terms of physical size, will these actually directly replace the original TR7 switches, or is there some 'reengineering' required?

jvaughan

6,025 posts

284 months

Monday 8th September 2003
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ralph dodds said:
Alternatively next weekend is the Beaulieu Autojumble. I bought a few at a similar event a couple of years back for 50p each.


IM off there.. Plan on buying lots of bnding to finish off my carpets, plus a whole shed load of restoration products

streaky

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Monday 8th September 2003
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RichardR said:

streaky said:
Has anyone used the modular rocker switches from Vehicle Wiring Products, or am I better hunting down the TR7 (???) switchgear?

In terms of physical size, will these actually directly replace the original TR7 switches, or is there some 'reengineering' required?
Good question. The existing switches are 12.7mm X 38.1mm (1/2" X 1.5"). The switches from VWP are 26mm X 50mm - fitting into an aperture 22mm X 44mm. I was thinking of making up a new fascia (veneered by myself) to accommodate them. I have also been thinking about making up a new dashboard too.

RichardR

2,892 posts

269 months

Monday 8th September 2003
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streaky said:

RichardR said:


streaky said:
Has anyone used the modular rocker switches from Vehicle Wiring Products, or am I better hunting down the TR7 (???) switchgear?
In terms of physical size, will these actually directly replace the original TR7 switches, or is there some 'reengineering' required?

Good question. The existing switches are 12.7mm X 38.1mm (1/2" X 1.5"). The switches from VWP are 26mm X 50mm - fitting into an aperture 22mm X 44mm. I was thinking of making up a new fascia (veneered by myself) to accommodate them. I have also been thinking about making up a new dashboard too.
Sounds like it woudln't be the easy swap I was hoping for then. Doh!

streaky

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Tuesday 9th September 2003
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I just reread my post on switch sizes and rechecked the VWP site because I thought I'd made an error.

For the sake of correctness (not that it materially affects what I posted), the website states:

"Overall dims of switch 26mm x 50mm, fits into aperture 22 x 44mm, or can be gang mounted into gang frames."

Check the aperture in the veneer. It is larger, but not enough in my view (I can't check mine at present), but could be opened out and the switches mounted into it. Might look better too than having the switches behind the veneer. At least that's where my thoughts are going.

Streaky

>> Edited by streaky on Tuesday 9th September 08:45

RichardR

2,892 posts

269 months

Tuesday 9th September 2003
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I think I'll measure the size of the current opening in the veneer then. You also mentioned re-veneering the panel yourself - is that a difficult/specialist job?

streaky

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Tuesday 9th September 2003
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RichardR said:
I think I'll measure the size of the current opening in the veneer then. You also mentioned re-veneering the panel yourself - is that a difficult/specialist job?

The 'ASIS' veneered panels in the Wedge are a specialist job. I happen to have cabiner making as a hobby and some nice veneers in my workshop. They're thin ones though so I intend to make a (cabinet grade) plywood former. that way I can design the layout to suit my needs.

We'll see how it turns out. It will likely be a winter job.

Streaky

>> Edited by streaky on Friday 12th September 18:16

york33

989 posts

263 months

Friday 12th September 2003
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eeek, just got a load of those switches from VWP, could be fun. Probably be a while before I get round to doing anything with them but they seem good quality. Was a little troublesome ensuring you order all the right component parts for them.....

streaky

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Friday 12th September 2003
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york33 said:
eeek, just got a load of those switches from VWP, could be fun. Probably be a while before I get round to doing anything with them but they seem good quality. Was a little troublesome ensuring you order all the right component parts for them.....
Any hints for getting it right?

york33

989 posts

263 months

Friday 12th September 2003
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I won't dare to venture any hints quite yet, I haven't assembled the bits yet so don't know if I got it right!

Theoretically, follow the instructions on the page, getting the switch body, rocker, lenses, bulbs+connector block.

I'll let you know how well they fit in the existing holes, will try them this weekend, in between fitting the £xxx of other bits I've bought for her this week

streaky

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Saturday 13th September 2003
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york33 said:
I won't dare to venture any hints quite yet, I haven't assembled the bits yet so don't know if I got it right!

Theoretically, follow the instructions on the page, getting the switch body, rocker, lenses, bulbs+connector block.

[snip]
Ah ha! That confirms something. The website does not mention needing the connector block ... but I assumed it was required.

york33

989 posts

263 months

Saturday 13th September 2003
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You don't, strictly speaking NEED them, but I think it will be very useful My wedge has round connectors, these have spade terminals, bringing about square peg in round hole comments Admittedly you could connect lots of individual spade connectors to each one, but please don't