Mind your head!

[Six Fiend]

For years I've ridden briskly and taught people to do the same safely too. I can't ride any more for varous reasons so took the car out for a hoon this morning instead.

I decided to do my old biking route, Bristol, Usk, Abergavenny for breakfast, Skenfrith, Monmouth, Wye Valley, home.

One thing I was mindful of before setting out was the propensity of a number of bikers to take (and exit) sharp right handers with their wheels just about on the white line.

You don't need to be smart to realise that puts the larger proportion of the bike and rider on the off side of the road and straight into oncoming traffic.

Good bloody job I drive ready to yield my visibility position in the car for a safety position then isn't it. I could have chalked up half a dozen of the dozy tts this monring. If I had been one of the many tractors or farm trucks (or indeed military trucks) out and about and filling their side of the road there would have been casualties.

If your mates ride like this, cuff them and send them on a course before they mess up my shiny paintwork

The rest of you, great to see lots of bikes out in the sunshine, I miss it...

Edited by Six Fiend on Sunday 27th July 10:57

[blade7]

Yep pisses me off when some noddy has his wheels just on his own side of the white line and the rest off him and his bike on my side.

[black-k1]

I think this is one of the bad things that come from too many track days and not enough advanced rider training. Too many people ride on the public road in the same way they ride at a track and don't understand that road and track lines through bends are totally different.

Edited by black-k1 on Sunday 27th July 11:17

[Chilli]

Advanced training teaches you exactly this way of riding. Not one of my mates hasn't done advaced training...and it shows.

[black-k1]

Chilli said:

Advanced training teaches you exactly this way of riding. Not one of my mates hasn't done advaced training...and it shows.

Sorry Nick, I may be misunderstanding what you are saying. Are you saying that advanced training teaches you to ride with your head and body on the other side of the road?

[m3evo2]

black-k1 said:

Chilli said:

Advanced training teaches you exactly this way of riding. Not one of my mates hasn't done advaced training...and it shows.

Sorry Nick, I may be misunderstanding what you are saying. Are you saying that advanced training teaches you to ride with your head and body on the other side of the road?

Known as the decapitation zone.

[Six Fiend]

Chilli said:

Advanced training teaches you exactly this way of riding. Not one of my mates hasn't done advaced training...and it shows.

Also confused by your statement as I never taught anyone to ride with their head over the line in the wrong place in 15 years and the BiB didn't teach me to do it either

[Chilli]

black-k1 said:

Chilli said:

Advanced training teaches you exactly this way of riding. Not one of my mates hasn't done advaced training...and it shows.

Sorry Nick, I may be misunderstanding what you are saying. Are you saying that advanced training teaches you to ride with your head and body on the other side of the road?

Apologies, I didn't make it very clear did I! No, IAM teaches you (as I'm sure you know)about road positioning and increasing your field of vision around bends. By concentrating on the vanishing point of a corner. Positioned correctly, for maximum safety, would mean that you would be on the completely opposite side of the road to what the OP witnessed, therefore maximising your forward vision around the bend.

Sorry!

[black-k1]

Chilli said:

black-k1 said:

Chilli said:

Advanced training teaches you exactly this way of riding. Not one of my mates hasn't done advaced training...and it shows.

Sorry Nick, I may be misunderstanding what you are saying. Are you saying that advanced training teaches you to ride with your head and body on the other side of the road?

Apologies, I didn't make it very clear did I! No, IAM teaches you (as I'm sure you know)about road positioning and increasing your field of vision around bends. By concentrating on the vanishing point of a corner. Positioned correctly, for maximum safety, would mean that you would be on the completely opposite side of the road to what the OP witnessed, therefore maximising your forward vision around the bend.

Sorry!

You had me worried there for a moment!

[Six Fiend]

Me too, point well explained second time over

[Howitzer]

Many moons ago a guy was sent home from work as while driving to work a biker deposited an arm into his ex postal van (With those sliding doors) into his cabin. He wasn't quite with it that day.

Dave!