Stig's car in CCC this month

Stig's car in CCC this month

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james

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1,362 posts

285 months

Tuesday 9th September 2003
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For those of you who don't subscribe. This month Cars and Car Conversions have an article on Stig's car. They even have it pictured on the front cover.

Worth a trip to the newsagents to buy a copy. Also, it's the last issue ever, as apparently it's closing down this month, after 40 years. A real shame, as it's one of my favourites. The writers have a very good style that exudes enthusiasm about their subject.

James

Stig

11,818 posts

285 months

Wednesday 10th September 2003
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And for those who would like to read the REAL story, have a look at the latest update on my website.

Like all publications, it seems that CCC can also be econommical with the truth!

www.ultima-gtr.info

Some more dyno runs are due (on a r/road that can take the power) to get a more accurate result - for good or bad

Crazy of Cookham

740 posts

256 months

Wednesday 10th September 2003
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Will look-out for magazine. Have read your update Stig very entertaining as usual. Appreciate your continuing the updates.

Terry Sb

1,382 posts

249 months

Wednesday 10th September 2003
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Stig said:
And for those who would like to read the REAL story, have a look at the latest update on my website.

Like all publications, it seems that CCC can also be econommical with the truth!

www.ultima-gtr.info

Some more dyno runs are due (on a r/road that can take the power) to get a more accurate result - for good or bad



Try www.thor-racing.co.uk

They are good guys and their set up will easily cope with your power.

>> Edited by Terry S on Wednesday 10th September 10:59

Stig

11,818 posts

285 months

Wednesday 10th September 2003
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Thanks Terry, but the link is broken?

Terry S

1,382 posts

249 months

Wednesday 10th September 2003
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That's because I am stupid. Try www.thor-racing.com

doz

72 posts

259 months

Thursday 11th September 2003
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Stig. i completely agree with you about the power delivery. Compared to my friend's F40, the GTR feels slow, despite having more power and being far (FAR) quicker head to head. Feels, is the operative word as the F40 is gutless until the turbos come in, then you get a belt in the back. With the Ult, there is loads more torque and power delivery is far smoother. There is no doubt that the Ult is awesomely quick - its not until you are head-to-head or overtaking do you really see the power of it!

Stig

11,818 posts

285 months

Thursday 11th September 2003
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doz said:
Stig. i completely agree with you about the power delivery. Compared to my friend's F40, the GTR feels slow, despite having more power and being far (FAR) quicker head to head. Feels, is the operative word as the F40 is gutless until the turbos come in, then you get a belt in the back. With the Ult, there is loads more torque and power delivery is far smoother. There is no doubt that the Ult is awesomely quick - its not until you are head-to-head or overtaking do you really see the power of it!


That's what I tried to explain to Dave Doz. It's very deceptive, but the speed at which it reels in other cars is self evident!

There's definitely more power to come, but I've got a few mods to make to get the engine bay temps down before they can be free'd up. Again, the car won't 'feel' much quicker (it's already like playing Gran Turismo!), but I like to get what I paid for in engine terms

davefiddes

846 posts

261 months

Thursday 11th September 2003
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Have you thought about getting your exhaust cermic coated Stig? I had mine done inside and out by Camcoat for about £350+VAT+delivery which was quite reasonable. Don't have any other Ultimas to compare it with but the radiated heat from the headers/silencer is not as much as I had feared. Another plus is that other than a slight dulling the first time you fire them up they stay nice and shiny and polished looking...not yukky and brown.

Stig

11,818 posts

285 months

Thursday 11th September 2003
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davefiddes said:
Have you thought about getting your exhaust cermic coated Stig? I had mine done inside and out by Camcoat for about £350+VAT+delivery which was quite reasonable. Don't have any other Ultimas to compare it with but the radiated heat from the headers/silencer is not as much as I had feared. Another plus is that other than a slight dulling the first time you fire them up they stay nice and shiny and polished looking...not yukky and brown.


Yes indeed Dave. I intend to get them done in the next month or two!

tuffer

8,850 posts

268 months

Thursday 11th September 2003
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Quality video Stig, especially the very last bit..........wwaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaahhhhhhhhh-change-wwwwwaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

slangley

66 posts

249 months

Thursday 11th September 2003
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davefiddes said:
Have you thought about getting your exhaust cermic coated Stig? I had mine done inside and out by Camcoat for about £350+VAT+delivery which was quite reasonable.




Did you coat the standard exhaust or the stainless exhaust?

>> Edited by slangley on Thursday 11th September 16:51

>> Edited by slangley on Thursday 11th September 16:53

BobM

887 posts

256 months

Thursday 11th September 2003
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I was going to get a standard (mild steel) exhaust but the factory don't keep them in and it would have taken some time to get one so I've just gone for the stainless one. Seems a pity to camcoat a stainless one so I was just going to leave it.

I thought camcoating was a problem once an exhaust has been used?

Stig

11,818 posts

285 months

Thursday 11th September 2003
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BobM said:
I was going to get a standard (mild steel) exhaust but the factory don't keep them in and it would have taken some time to get one so I've just gone for the stainless one. Seems a pity to camcoat a stainless one so I was just going to leave it.

I thought camcoating was a problem once an exhaust has been used?


Nope, and they can do inside and out although, you pay a bit for them to be cleaned first.

Had the same scenario when I asked about mild steel and went for stainless. Still, the blueing of the stainless after a while looks a bit shite and the cermakrome keeps its colour. Polished up, you've almost got a chrome finish anyway.

Stig

11,818 posts

285 months

Thursday 11th September 2003
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tuffer said:
Quality video Stig, especially the very last bit..........wwaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaahhhhhhhhh-change-wwwwwaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh


Glad you liked it, believe me, it's a lot more fun when you're behind the wheel

davefiddes

846 posts

261 months

Thursday 11th September 2003
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Don't waste your money on a mild steel system. I thought about this at one point but the lead time was going to be 4 months or so which was more than I was prepared to wait (though in hindsight it wouldn't have been too bad) so I went for the stainless. The stainless system will be able to take more heat and generally be more durable. Also the ceramic coating process only covers the outside of your silencer boxes...the mild steel will still rot. Though the coating is *very* hard and durable there is a bit of inevitable scraping of the overlapping connections during isntallation. In mild steel this would rust and look naff. If you are worried about the appearance I can post pics of my car to let you see what a somewhat used ceramic system looks like (just like new).

BobM

887 posts

256 months

Thursday 11th September 2003
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davefiddes said:
Don't waste your money on a mild steel system.

I won't - the stainless one is sitting in my garage loft waiting patiently
davefiddes said:
The stainless system will be able to take more heat and generally be more durable. Also the ceramic coating process only covers the outside of your silencer boxes...the mild steel will still rot. Though the coating is *very* hard and durable there is a bit of inevitable scraping of the overlapping connections during isntallation. In mild steel this would rust and look naff. If you are worried about the appearance I can post pics of my car to let you see what a somewhat used ceramic system looks like (just like new).

Cheers Dave, some pics would be helpful. I thought stainless was more brittle and more likely to crack than mild?

Bob

gtrclive

4,187 posts

284 months

Thursday 11th September 2003
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I may be wrong but I seem to remember some one saying that if the system has been used, the inside cannot be cleaned up enough and so only the outside can be done. But does seem to be the way to go.

tuffer

8,850 posts

268 months

Friday 12th September 2003
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Stig said:


tuffer said:
Quality video Stig, especially the very last bit..........wwaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaahhhhhhhhh-change-wwwwwaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh




Glad you liked it, believe me, it's a lot more fun when you're behind the wheel



I don't believe you......prove it

>> Edited by tuffer on Friday 12th September 02:28

Stig

11,818 posts

285 months

Friday 12th September 2003
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gtrclive said:
I may be wrong but I seem to remember some one saying that if the system has been used, the inside cannot be cleaned up enough and so only the outside can be done. But does seem to be the way to go.


According to the conversation I had with Camcoat, you are I'm afraid.