which M engine is the ONE??!!??

which M engine is the ONE??!!??

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Beedub

Original Poster:

1,959 posts

227 months

Thursday 14th August 2008
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most of us in here a M owners and ALL M engines really are truely awesome, they sound awesome, they produce fantastic power outputs but..... which M engine sticks out for you as the best engine the m department have made and why? im going to be slightly biased here and im going to choose the s54 as one of my faves, the noise, the power delivery, the torque, pretty much everythink makes this a world class engine. so whats yours and why?



and of course the greatest engine ever???


Vixpy1

42,625 posts

265 months

Thursday 14th August 2008
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S54 for me

Beedub

Original Poster:

1,959 posts

227 months

Thursday 14th August 2008
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whys thats vix??

just purely out of interest are any of the M engines dry sumped?

ASBO

26,140 posts

215 months

Thursday 14th August 2008
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S38 for me.

The S50 was the 1st production engine to broach 100bhp per litre, the S54 moved the game on with greater power and better emissions. However, the S38 as used in the M1 supercar, the E28 and finally ending up in the E34, is a masterpiece. Back in 1980 it must have been epic.

It's delivery, the noise, the torque and the power are all incredible and all this without a single VANOS unit in sight.

How many race engines out there are that will do 200,000 miles without a rebuild?

Stevo///M3

43 posts

194 months

Thursday 14th August 2008
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s52b32, the Evo's engine I think the code is right
what a beautiful sound arena in the cabin to sample the aural delights of the M3, the underrated version M3 if you like
BUT
I think I'd prefer an e39 M5!
My next car if possible and they're only like 12k now for a reasonable one
driving

Beedub

Original Poster:

1,959 posts

227 months

Thursday 14th August 2008
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ASBO said:
S38 for me.

The S50 was the 1st production engine to broach 100bhp per litre, the S54 moved the game on with greater power and better emissions. However, the S38 as used in the M1 supercar, the E28 and finally ending up in the E34, is a masterpiece. Back in 1980 it must have been epic.

It's delivery, the noise, the torque and the power are all incredible and all this without a single VANOS unit in sight.

How many race engines out there are that will do 200,000 miles without a rebuild?
very true

Beedub

Original Poster:

1,959 posts

227 months

Thursday 14th August 2008
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i have to say the new m3 v8 is quite somethink, the noise is awesome, im intrested to see how many go wrong?


ASBO

26,140 posts

215 months

Thursday 14th August 2008
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Stevo///M3 said:
s52b32, the Evo's engine I think the code is right
what a beautiful sound arena in the cabin to sample the aural delights of the M3, the underrated version M3 if you like
BUT
I think I'd prefer an e39 M5!
My next car if possible and they're only like 12k now for a reasonable one
driving
The 3.2 in the Evo was/is a cracker too. However having owned both engines at the same time and comparing back to back, I'd say the S38 is the smother engine with the better power delivery and what a noise!

The E39 left me a little cold. It's a brilliant car and the power is plentiful, but somehow for me the engine lacked that something special.

john_r

8,353 posts

272 months

Thursday 14th August 2008
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S85B50

I miss it every day... (though I'm getting very fond of the Audi BCY now!!)



but not the depreciation or fuel consumption!

Edited by john_r on Friday 15th August 10:17

Frik

13,542 posts

244 months

Thursday 14th August 2008
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Vixpy1 said:
S54 for me
yes CSL version please. The ultimate incarnation of a terrific family of engines.

S70/2 is clearly epic but quadruple VANOS yikes

Vixpy1

42,625 posts

265 months

Thursday 14th August 2008
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The S38 was and still is an epic engine, in fact probably one of the finest of its time, but the game's moved on, and the S54 is just a league ahead in terms of power delivery and refinement.

Zod

35,295 posts

259 months

Thursday 14th August 2008
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All of them (except the E36 M3 US engine).

They have most on display at the M Centre at the Nurburgring.

Anyway, I find it difficult to choose between the CSL version of the S54 and the magnificent S85 in the M5 and M6.

Beedub

Original Poster:

1,959 posts

227 months

Thursday 14th August 2008
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its beautiful isnt it!!! one of the nicest engine notes their is, the only differences are different cam profiles and that carbon airbox right???


Vixpy1

42,625 posts

265 months

Thursday 14th August 2008
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Exhaust is different, MAF was disposed of too.

m12_nathan

5,138 posts

260 months

Thursday 14th August 2008
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Exhaust valves, manifold, airbox, cams, ECU, Alpha-N rather than MAF.

Awesome engine but the new v8 is a stunning IMO.

juliann

400 posts

237 months

Friday 15th August 2008
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Beedub said:
ASBO said:
S38 for me.



How many race engines out there are that will do 200,000 miles without a rebuild?
very true
Here's mine.....


Edited by juliann on Friday 15th August 05:33

dan101smith

16,802 posts

212 months

Friday 15th August 2008
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ASBO said:
The S50 was the 1st production engine to broach 100bhp per litre
<pedant>100PS per litre</pedant>

Falls just short of the 100bhp/litre test.

carl_w

9,195 posts

259 months

Friday 15th August 2008
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dan101smith said:
Falls just short of the 100bhp/litre test.
Are you sure? I thought they were 321 bhp, hence 100.3 bhp/litre.

dan101smith

16,802 posts

212 months

Friday 15th August 2008
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321PS (misprint in the UK brochure) = approx 316bhp

E36GUY

5,906 posts

219 months

Friday 15th August 2008
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carl_w said:
dan101smith said:
Falls just short of the 100bhp/litre test.
Are you sure? I thought they were 321 bhp, hence 100.3 bhp/litre.
Claimed 321 but none of them actually make that figure without a decent airbox replacement.

Biased towards the 3.2 evo engine cos i own one.