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essexplumber
7,286 posts
42 months
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968 said: Essexplumber is a bitter troll, just ignore him. . Thing is, I'm not. So someone is a Troll if they do not like the way a football club and its fans behave? Thats what a Troll is, is it?
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968
9,262 posts
117 months
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essexplumber said: Thing is, I'm not.
So someone is a Troll if they do not like the way a football club and its fans behave? Thats what a Troll is, is it? Yes you are. Sad, bitter and the most graceless person on any of these football threads. You're a complete disgrace to your fellow Spurs fans. Take a leaf out of the Liverpool fans' book. They are a club with history, of no dispute, going through a hard time, but are graceful enough to congratulate us on our success. That kind of manful behaviour is entirely beyond you. You're penchant of posting without thinking is becoming more and more boring each day. I may not like or agree with BCM sometimes but at least he has some grace and humour about him and when it comes down to it, he realises this is a game that we follow, and if I met him in a pub I'd buy him a beer. You seem to lack perspective.
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essexplumber
7,286 posts
42 months
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968 said: You seem to lack perspective. No I just really dislike Chelsea and as it is a free country and these are free forums I like to talk about the things I dislike about them. You don't like the fact that some dislike Chelsea, so to you they are Trolls. As has been said before you don't have to read my posts. I will always admit to being wrong (although that rarely happens) and I also show humillity when Chelsea have played well (Barca & Today for example) so my comments cannot be construed as blatant Trolling.
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968
9,262 posts
117 months
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essexplumber said: No I just really dislike Chelsea and as it is a free country and these are free forums I like to talk about the things I dislike about them. You don't like the fact that some dislike Chelsea, so to you they are Trolls. As has been said before you don't have to read my posts. I will always admit to being wrong (although that rarely happens) and I also show humillity when Chelsea have played well (Barca & Today for example) so my comments cannot be construed as blatant Trolling. I'm glad you dislike us, it's a pity you take it so personally and don't seem to be able to separate reality from a game. If you dislike us so much I find it odd that you would choose to spend so much time on our thread slagging us off. We don't want to hear you, neither do any of the other fans from other clubs, so why not just go away? Hate to break it to you, but you're most often wrong, and frequently embarrass yourself on this thread. Do yourself a favour, step away from the keyboard.
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trackdemon
9,106 posts
130 months
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essexplumber said: You attempted to use this seasons statistics as the basis to state that Chelsea are a bigger club than Liverpool, no? trackdemon said: No, I was using them to illustrate my 'so what' attitude to a clubs past achievments in the perspective of the right here, right now. As a football fan (which as you have rightly explained to me, you are) you should know that one season counts for nothing in terms of a clubs size and status. As you have also pointed out Spurs are not as big as Liverpool, neither are Arsenal, neither are Citehand niether are Chelsea. trackdemon said: Er, well thanks for your lofty endorsement, but as above, right now.... so what? The only English club that can claim to be bigger than Liverpool are Man U, and they are, just. trackdemon said: So what? There are 'bigger' clubs than Chelsea, Spurs & Newcastle in lower league positions (in fact lower leagues), but what's that got to do with what happened today, or any other day of this seasons make up? And also, can you not call me a prick please. As I've said before its all very well and good getting personal on an internet forum but people can't defend themselves here can they. trackdemon said: Don't cast aspersions on my integrity as a fan then. Its very (VERY) tired and lazy to imply that you can only be a Chelsea fan because of its current owner. Edited to add - this whole 'bigger club' arguement is desperately tired. There were times when LFC & ManU were not the biggest teams, there will be times in the future when other clubs (maybe CFC, maybe Crystal Palace - who knows!) will be bigger. Its transient, I acknowledge its existance but I don't see why I should bow down to what LFC did in the 80's when they have been comprehensively outclassed by lots of clubs in the last decade. Do you bow down to Arsenals last decade superiority(history)? I wouldn't.
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essexplumber
7,286 posts
42 months
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968 said: I'm glad you dislike us, it's a pity you take it so personally and don't seem to be able to separate reality from a game. If you dislike us so much I find it odd that you would choose to spend so much time on our thread slagging us off. We don't want to hear you, neither do any of the other fans from other clubs, so why not just go away? Hate to break it to you, but you're most often wrong, and frequently embarrass yourself on this thread. Do yourself a favour, step away from the keyboard. So you speak for everyone now do you? I take it personally beacause I love football, its the tribalism that knits it together, and part of that tribalism is rivalry, no? I don't recall embarrassing myself. When was that? I don't remember feeling embarrassed once let alone frequently so maybe you could clarify that for me.
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essexplumber
7,286 posts
42 months
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trackdemon said: essexplumber said: You attempted to use this seasons statistics as the basis to state that Chelsea are a bigger club than Liverpool, no? trackdemon said: No, I was using them to illustrate my 'so what' attitude to a clubs past achievments in the perspective of the right here, right now. As a football fan (which as you have rightly explained to me, you are) you should know that one season counts for nothing in terms of a clubs size and status. As you have also pointed out Spurs are not as big as Liverpool, neither are Arsenal, neither are Citehand niether are Chelsea. trackdemon said: Er, well thanks for your lofty endorsement, but as above, right now.... so what? The only English club that can claim to be bigger than Liverpool are Man U, and they are, just. trackdemon said: So what? There are 'bigger' clubs than Chelsea, Spurs & Newcastle in lower league positions (in fact lower leagues), but what's that got to do with what happened today, or any other day of this seasons make up? And also, can you not call me a prick please. As I've said before its all very well and good getting personal on an internet forum but people can't defend themselves here can they. trackdemon said: Don't cast aspersions on my integrity as a fan then. Its very (VERY) tired and lazy to imply that you can only be a Chelsea fan because of its current owner. My comments regarding Chelsea/Liverpool being big clubs was in response to a post from a Chelsea fan asking when will Suarez move to a big club. I agree that the outcome of todays game has little impact on either clubs status or stature.
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968
9,262 posts
117 months
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essexplumber said: So you speak for everyone now do you? I take it personally beacause I love football, its the tribalism that knits it together, and part of that tribalism is rivalry, no?
I don't recall embarrassing myself. When was that? I don't remember feeling embarrassed once let alone frequently so maybe you could clarify that for me. You embarrass yourself every time you enter this thread, and write more rubbish, like challenging me to a fight for instance, or was that no embarrassing enough for you? If anyone would like to disagree with me, that you are a disgrace, I'd be glad for them to chime in anytime. I don't expect much disagreement though. If tribalism is your excuse for behaving like you do, it's a pretty lame one. All the Chelsea fans here are fiercely loyal to their club but that doesn't excuse the kind of behaviour you display every time you appear here regurgitating the same tired cliches, which make it all to clear that you're sad and bitter.
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trackdemon
9,106 posts
130 months
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essexplumber said: My comments regarding Chelsea/Liverpool being big clubs was in response to a post from a Chelsea fan asking when will Suarez move to a big club. Funny, 'coz you quoted my comment about recent history when making a point about it. essexplumber said: I agree that the outcome of todays game has little impact on either clubs status or stature. Not sure who you're agreeing with. I think today's result goes towards creating what will be seen as Chelsea's 'history' in years to come.
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essexplumber
7,286 posts
42 months
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trackdemon said: Do you bow down to Arsenals last decade superiority(history)? I wouldn't. Yes. I totally respect the way Arsenal have played and conducted themselves as a club over the past decade and hope that my team get the chance to emulate their success one day. I would not bow down to Chelseas recent success because it has been bought rather than earned, as will Citehs future success.
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essexplumber
7,286 posts
42 months
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968 said: You embarrass yourself every time you enter this thread, and write more rubbish, like challenging me to a fight for instance, or was that no embarrassing enough for you? If anyone would like to disagree with me, that you are a disgrace, I'd be glad for them to chime in anytime. I don't expect much disagreement though. If tribalism is your excuse for behaving like you do, it's a pretty lame one. All the Chelsea fans here are fiercely loyal to their club but that doesn't excuse the kind of behaviour you display every time you appear here regurgitating the same tired cliches, which make it all to clear that you're sad and bitter. If you personally insulted me in the street I would act in exactly the same way, being on an internet forum does not give you the right to call paople names unchallenged, so no that didn't embarrass me at all. I would not expect any disagreement either so thats no skin of off my nose. And the sad and bitter part is b  ks too because what you are saying is that anyone who doesn't like a particular team must be both sad and bitter!
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essexplumber
7,286 posts
42 months
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trackdemon said: Not sure who you're agreeing with. I think today's result goes towards creating what will be seen as Chelsea's 'history' in years to come. My initial comments RE club size etc was in response to a comment about 2 pages back 
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essexplumber
7,286 posts
42 months
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essexplumber said: Negative Creep said: So how long will Suarez stick around before a bigger club comes calling? A bigger club?  A BIGGER CLUB? What a bigger club than Liverpool? And that from a Chelsea fan  All time classic right there. You lot wanna hope and pray you beat Bayern, because the chance of Mata, Torres, Mirelles etc staying without CL football must be slim. This was the initial comment on club size BTW.
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trackdemon
9,106 posts
130 months
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You seem to pick and choose which parts you want to argue with, conclusion: You want to argue, and always 'win'. I have a life & I've made my points pretty clear so there's nothing to add.... I'm out!
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968
9,262 posts
117 months
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essexplumber said: If you personally insulted me in the street I would act in exactly the same way, being on an internet forum does not give you the right to call paople names unchallenged, so no that didn't embarrass me at all. I would not expect any disagreement either so thats no skin of off my nose. And the sad and bitter part is b  ks too because what you are saying is that anyone who doesn't like a particular team must be both sad and bitter! An embarrassment and a hypocrite it seems. Of course, you never insult any of us on this thread, but that's ok, if you say it's a personal insult, you must be right, because you're never wrong according to you. And of course you're not sad and bitter, because you say you're not. No matter that you spend your life on a thread about Chelsea, slagging us off, because that's not sad or bitter at all. Seriously, if ever there was a need for a kill button on these fora, you're it. Just go away, enjoy watching your team and keep your fingers crossed that they can finish 4th or even 3rd.
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968
9,262 posts
117 months
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Back on planet earth and away from planet moron (ie essexplumber) RDM has to get the job. I know some here have had doubts about him over a whole season and indeed rebuilding the squad, but I reckon he's best equipped to do the rebuilding job because the players trust and respect him. AVB was an unknown quantity and was very young, hence I don't think he had the authority that Fergie has, for example, to be able to cull players. RDM has more experience, but importantly is a Chelsea man through and through and is part of the clubs history (although apparently we haven't got any). It was great to see RDM back at Wembley after scoring that amazing goal from about 35+ yards and also scoring the last goal at the last Wembley. He seems like a very well balanced guy and the players seem to love him, so I guess he might find it easier to tell the likes of Lamps that he needs a rest this week etc. I'm a bit worried about all the names linked with the job, because many of them aren't good enough and I don't believe could do the same job as RDM.
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The Jolly Todger
1,170 posts
49 months
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essexplumber said: And the sad and bitter part is b  ks too because what you are saying is that anyone who doesn't like a particular team must be both sad and bitter! There are plenty of people who hate Chelsea or any other team and are not sad or bitter. The difference with you is that you are sad and bitter.
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Black can man
10,982 posts
37 months
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trackdemon said: What a prick, I'veh supported Chelsea since I moved to London in 1996, sorry if that's not long enough for you. Don't try to paint me as a new wave Abramovich fan, those types of tourist fans piss me off as much as anyone and are a part of the reason I don't get to as many games as I used to (cost & availability). I loved the times we had under Ruud & especially Luca; what should I do? Stop supporting us because we attracted a rich new owner? Did you do that when Lewis' empire bought Spurs? Hypocrisy is never far away with football fans.
I'm perfectly aware of Liverpool's PAST achievments, but I'm living right here right now. And right now they're rubbish. FWIW - like most clubs - we do have some history (50's league success, a long history of top competing in the top league + lots of good cup runs). Guess what? In 50 years we might have similar history to other clubs... the game is not much more than 100 years old as it is so there's a limit to how many clubs can be 'massive' by your lofty criteria. Spurs aren't. SO WHAT?
Out of interest , can i asked whom you supported prior to 1996 ?
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smn159
1,259 posts
86 months
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I bet that when EP's Mrs asks him to put the bins out she gets a lecture about how the bin men are all scum, have no history and will never be as 'big' as the Posties...
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Black can man
10,982 posts
37 months
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Firstly congrates to Chelsea they were the better side over the 90 mins & at least for Liverpool the big man up front showed some encouraging promise , i thought he took his goal really well
It's strange that all of a sudden that Chelsea are doing really well it has to coincide with the appointment of RDM & that the players are happy with him being in charge ( i personally think frank & jt are calling the shots ) It was so clear that the players were really not impressed with AVB & this point will surely happen with England with the players not getting the man they really want in Harry redknapp . It's the players that win games not managers , if the players are happy then the teams performance increases '
I would like to say good luck in the CL final , but that will depend on the outcome of whom finishes 4 th in the league
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