Anyone Selling fireworks this year?

Anyone Selling fireworks this year?

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sam.r

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2,362 posts

229 months

Tuesday 9th September 2008
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Just wondering if anyone is selling fireworks this year?

I had a shop for 2 weeks a few years ago which went really well. Never done it since though.

Red Firecracker

5,276 posts

228 months

Tuesday 9th September 2008
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You'll be lucky, I wager, as there is a rather large shortage of fireworks in country this year.

tobeee

1,436 posts

269 months

Tuesday 9th September 2008
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www.fantasticfireworks.co.uk

Based near Luton. Bought some amazing stuff here last year!

sam.r

Original Poster:

2,362 posts

229 months

Tuesday 9th September 2008
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Red Firecracker said:
You'll be lucky, I wager, as there is a rather large shortage of fireworks in country this year.
Why is that Firecracker?


Dave_ST220

10,298 posts

206 months

Tuesday 9th September 2008
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Red Firecracker said:
You'll be lucky, I wager, as there is a rather large shortage of fireworks in country this year.
JTF wholesale have plenty wink I was told last year that rockets were banned this year, they are still selling the exact same rockets this year!

www.jtfwholesale.com

Dave_ST220

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206 months

Tuesday 9th September 2008
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tobeee said:
www.fantasticfireworks.co.uk

Based near Luton. Bought some amazing stuff here last year!
"For parties, weddings and celebrations on a budget, we recommend between 5 and 10 minutes at a cost of between £300 and £500 per minute.

For concert finales, product launches and corporate events, we recommend a firing rate of £500-£1000 per minute and a duration of about 6-10 minutes.

For prestige events the sky’s the limit. We recommend a firing rate of between £1000 and £5000 per minute, with a recommended duration of 10-20 minutes."

Money to burn?!!

sam.r

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Tuesday 9th September 2008
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Sorry what I meant is people opening a shop and selling retail not somewhere for me to buy fireworks from.....if that makes sense!

Dave_ST220

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Tuesday 9th September 2008
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Anyone can buy from JTF i ***think***. Although i am VAT registered, all i have ever got from there is fireworks!! Retail prices are silly, i got about £250 worth last year and the RRP was well over double. They supply many shops so i don't see why there will be any issues this year? If you aren't VAT registered maybe you know someone who is? (assuming you must be to deal with them, i'm sure you don't have to be as i know a m8 who has got £500 worth off them each year and he's not even a business).

sam.r

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Tuesday 9th September 2008
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I know a supplier I was just wondering if anyone here is opening up for Nov 5th for a few weeks? (to the pubilic)

My friend is interested thats why I ask, thinking about working out of a container. I had a shop many years ago that I opened with someone else, we made a tidy sum for 1 weeks work!


Dave_ST220

10,298 posts

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Tuesday 9th September 2008
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I thought all the laws on selling them had been tightened up?

sam.r

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Tuesday 9th September 2008
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He's looking into it now.

I got a license from the local council which was really really cheap! I guess things have changed now.

We got an inspection too from a coucil worker which we passed with flying colours (god knows how!)


peterperkins

3,155 posts

243 months

Tuesday 9th September 2008
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http://www.greatnorthernfireworks.com/

Get my vote, had some amazing stuff from them over the years, lot's of bang for you buck cool

Red Firecracker

5,276 posts

228 months

Tuesday 9th September 2008
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sam.r said:
Red Firecracker said:
You'll be lucky, I wager, as there is a rather large shortage of fireworks in country this year.
Why is that Firecracker?
The Chinese stopped export around the Olympics (well, actually a few months before). Not due to them needing all the fireworks for themselves but because they didn't want to transport them around with all the Westerners there. Their methods are a little lax at times shall we say.....

Combine this with the fact that there is now only one shipping company who carries pyro and even less ships willing to carry pyro for that company, it's all going to add up.

Then we get onto the new regulations which are blooming annoying to say the least...

sam.r

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Tuesday 9th September 2008
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Do they go out of date at all?

My wholesaler has loads, might be from last year though?


Red Firecracker

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Tuesday 9th September 2008
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sam.r said:
Do they go out of date at all?

My wholesaler has loads, might be from last year though?
They do deteriorate and your licensing authority tend to want proof of dates to ensure good practice in storage (using older stock first, that sort of thing). It should also be remembered that classifications and regulations have changed in the last 12 months so some items that were legal last year are very naughty this year.

I do have to say, and this is not meant in a patronising tone or in any way a personal attack on yourself, IMHO it is very wrong of the licensing authorities to allow temporary shop licenses. Pyrotechnics should be sold with the full knowledge and advice of what each individual item is capable of and also come with accurate advice with regards to fall out and suitable firing locations. Some of the stuff available to let off in gardens now is frankly terrifying. (to quantify my last statement, I'm not being a kill joy and have experience of professional display fireworks along with pyrotechnic qualifications).

I fully understand why you'd want to do it, my rant is squarely at the authorities who allow such things to happen, creating situations where large fireworks are sold to inexperienced consumers for use in postage stamp gardens.

sam.r

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229 months

Tuesday 9th September 2008
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I agree with you.

I was amazed when I opened my shop (I was 18 by the way) and the council didnt really care. We were very strict with checking ID's etc as we didnt want all the little stes giving us a bad name however I dont think most 18 year olds would act like that.
We did everything by the book so to speak and even had a visit from a council worker checking the dummies and storage! It all wasnt done in A1 style (I only wanted to pay my car insurance so the display / shop was all cheap and cheerful!!) but the coucil worker was more than happy - seemed like they didnt really know what they were looking for TBH

If I had the time I would do it every year but totally agree that the rules are too relaxed.

I guess professional displays only may come into force soon?

Red Firecracker

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228 months

Tuesday 9th September 2008
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sam.r said:
I guess professional displays only may come into force soon?
That's the way it is heading, what with the prices of insurance and also the re-categorisation of larger/report fireworks that doesn't make them illegal to purchase or use but does make them effectively impossible to transport. It's a rather underhand and back door way of changing the industry. But of course, it's not long ago that we were running under legislation that required us to make sure our horses hooves were covered in sacking when transporting explosives!

tobeee

1,436 posts

269 months

Wednesday 10th September 2008
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Dave_ST220 said:
tobeee said:
www.fantasticfireworks.co.uk

Based near Luton. Bought some amazing stuff here last year!
"For parties, weddings and celebrations on a budget, we recommend between 5 and 10 minutes at a cost of between £300 and £500 per minute.

For concert finales, product launches and corporate events, we recommend a firing rate of £500-£1000 per minute and a duration of about 6-10 minutes.

For prestige events the sky’s the limit. We recommend a firing rate of between £1000 and £5000 per minute, with a recommended duration of 10-20 minutes."

Money to burn?!!
Ha Ha! Unfortunately not! They sell 'normal' fireworks and 'normal' prices too!