why did the big end go?

why did the big end go?

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aussiebruce

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452 posts

191 months

Friday 12th September 2008
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It's a 1986 Audi quattro turbo that has had quite a lot of work done to her to run 386up. I know it's not that much for a Quattro, but tried to keep it driveable on the track. Boost comes in at 3 1/2 grand etc.

Anyway after a track day last week end No3 big end 5h1t itself big time. I wasn't driving it at the time so not too sure what happened.

Now i'm kinda wondering what would cause it to go? Is it lack of oil, oil too hot or over reving? I can't tell about lack of oil as the strainer is full of big end so there are signs of lack of oil every where. (the guy kept driving inspite of the death rattle)

Yes, she has a rev limiter, but it dosent work when you're change down.

thanks for any thoughts

stevieturbo

17,275 posts

248 months

Friday 12th September 2008
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All/any of the above...nothing lasts forever.

GavinPearson

5,715 posts

252 months

Saturday 13th September 2008
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aussiebruce said:
It's a 1986 Audi quattro turbo that has had quite a lot of work done to her to run 386up. I know it's not that much for a Quattro, but tried to keep it driveable on the track. Boost comes in at 3 1/2 grand etc.

Anyway after a track day last week end No3 big end 5h1t itself big time. I wasn't driving it at the time so not too sure what happened.

Now i'm kinda wondering what would cause it to go? Is it lack of oil, oil too hot or over reving? I can't tell about lack of oil as the strainer is full of big end so there are signs of lack of oil every where. (the guy kept driving inspite of the death rattle)

Yes, she has a rev limiter, but it dosent work when you're change down.

thanks for any thoughts
You might have had the bearing on the way out for quite some time. I have had similar experience - I attributed mine primarily to oil breakdown. I would generally recommend oil changes every 5000 miles for a car that gets a hard life.

You might also want to think about the oil level that was used on the track day. Too low and you risk starvation, too high and you risk frothing, which can result in similar issues.

350Matt

3,740 posts

280 months

Sunday 14th September 2008
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Big-ends fail when:
There's a lack of oil film so the bearing picks up.
The surface speed over the bearing is so high (ie high revs) it causes cavitation which rips out bearing material.
Combustion loads are so high the rod is hammered through the oil film and crunches the shells against the crank pin

Matt

Pilky

90 posts

193 months

Sunday 14th September 2008
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Probably oil surge...high cornering forces/braking can force the oil away from the pick up pipe and temporarily starve the engine of oil. It doesnt take much!!
I did the bottom end of a Alfa 75 V6 last year on a track day, the oil light breifly flicked on -maybe 2 or 3 seconds but that was enough. Brought it in and it just didnt sound right, let it cool down before heading for home and watched in horror as the oil pressure fell slowly down to nothing in the next 10 miles before the death rattle set in!!

Boosted LS1

21,189 posts

261 months

Sunday 14th September 2008
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Because it was hot in there and it didn't like the scenery. Sorry, I'll get my coat.

trickywoo

11,874 posts

231 months

Monday 15th September 2008
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Detonation is a favorite for forced induction motors. Easily caused by a problem on the fueling side.