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I did IAM stuff years ago and it was useful and interesting and would benefit young driver or family instructor. Yes, as in any club there were a few pompous types as per any club but basically really useful and many could really make a car perform, safely. In those days, of course, we met in a pub. As we were in less p.c. Days.
Edited by Lester H on Tuesday 1st December 23:08
Edited by Lester H on Sunday 13th December 21:48
I was watching a you tube video about a Dutch Ambulance on a emergency call to a patient.
Mercedes E class Ambulance on it's way in Amersfoort small Dutch town
I found his style of driving very similar to yours Reg.Love to have this clip on here for people to judge the Ambulance driver.So relaxed he made it look simple driving through busy traffic.
Mercedes E class Ambulance on it's way in Amersfoort small Dutch town
I found his style of driving very similar to yours Reg.Love to have this clip on here for people to judge the Ambulance driver.So relaxed he made it look simple driving through busy traffic.
pim said:
I was watching a you tube video about a Dutch Ambulance on a emergency call to a patient.
Mercedes E class Ambulance on it's way in Amersfoort small Dutch town
I found his style of driving very similar to yours Reg.Love to have this clip on here for people to judge the Ambulance driver.So relaxed he made it look simple driving through busy traffic.
This one? - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H0avXW4HMTkMercedes E class Ambulance on it's way in Amersfoort small Dutch town
I found his style of driving very similar to yours Reg.Love to have this clip on here for people to judge the Ambulance driver.So relaxed he made it look simple driving through busy traffic.
Red Devil said:
This one? - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H0avXW4HMTk
Not keen on his steering tbh.Len Woodman said:
PhilAsia said:
Not keen on his steering tbh.
What didn't you like?Good examples of 'Parting the waves'.
Red Devil said:
pim said:
I was watching a you tube video about a Dutch Ambulance on a emergency call to a patient.
Mercedes E class Ambulance on it's way in Amersfoort small Dutch town
I found his style of driving very similar to yours Reg.Love to have this clip on here for people to judge the Ambulance driver.So relaxed he made it look simple driving through busy traffic.
This one? - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H0avXW4HMTkMercedes E class Ambulance on it's way in Amersfoort small Dutch town
I found his style of driving very similar to yours Reg.Love to have this clip on here for people to judge the Ambulance driver.So relaxed he made it look simple driving through busy traffic.
Red Devil said:
pim said:
I was watching a you tube video about a Dutch Ambulance on a emergency call to a patient.
Mercedes E class Ambulance on it's way in Amersfoort small Dutch town
I found his style of driving very similar to yours Reg.Love to have this clip on here for people to judge the Ambulance driver.So relaxed he made it look simple driving through busy traffic.
This one? - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H0avXW4HMTkMercedes E class Ambulance on it's way in Amersfoort small Dutch town
I found his style of driving very similar to yours Reg.Love to have this clip on here for people to judge the Ambulance driver.So relaxed he made it look simple driving through busy traffic.
p1esk said:
I have no particular expertise in judging these matters, but I saw it as a nice swift, smooth, and relaxed drive; and the steering style, although not in accordance with the textbook, was flexible and versatile. It got the job done very nicely, I thought.
That's what I thought. I evaluate drivers daily, few of which have been taught to drive by any form of textbook. I like to see smooth, relaxed driving - as long as I feel comfortable. Observation skills and buffer zoning are the real key to judge if someone is safe - and our Dutch medic showed skill there. I was surprised how few bicycles there were around - it's supposed to be the Netherlands!
p1esk said:
I have no particular expertise in judging these matters, but I saw it as a nice swift, smooth, and relaxed drive; and the steering style, although not in accordance with the textbook, was flexible and versatile. It got the job done very nicely, I thought.
Just me I guess Len. His steering was smooth and not a problem the majority of the time. I did notice that on roundabouts his steering suffered (marginally) and was seen at 7:25. I wouldn't personally have been happy with my inputs at that point.
I'm a bit ott about steering I guess...
PhilAsia said:
Just me I guess Len.
His steering was smooth and not a problem the majority of the time. I did notice that on roundabouts his steering suffered (marginally) and was seen at 7:25. I wouldn't personally have been happy with my inputs at that point.
I'm a bit ott about steering I guess...
I used to be the same about steering, and I still predominantly use the old (still current?) Hendon pull-push which I learnt from HPC, the police and the army forty years ago. But with experience in heavy vehicles up to B-doubles and in trucks in Africa (mud roads etc.) I do occasionally use different techniques, including 'palming' regardless of vehicle.His steering was smooth and not a problem the majority of the time. I did notice that on roundabouts his steering suffered (marginally) and was seen at 7:25. I wouldn't personally have been happy with my inputs at that point.
I'm a bit ott about steering I guess...
Although the Dutch medic had a nice dry road, Dutch roads can be very slippery in winter, prone to ice because it's mostly below sea level. He probably prefers a constant hand position on roundabouts as it may assist in skid correction (and not over-correction).
I'm more OTT on left-foot braking. Only because I worked with a rep years ago who it seemed was absolutely brilliant at left-footing. Then one day we had someone come out from the left and he reacted by pushing both pedals down hard and fully - in a V8 Commodore! We are still alive!
Len Woodman said:
I used to be the same about steering, and I still predominantly use the old (still current?) Hendon pull-push which I learnt from HPC, the police and the army forty years ago. But with experience in heavy vehicles up to B-doubles and in trucks in Africa (mud roads etc.) I do occasionally use different techniques, including 'palming' regardless of vehicle.
Although the Dutch medic had a nice dry road, Dutch roads can be very slippery in winter, prone to ice because it's mostly below sea level. He probably prefers a constant hand position on roundabouts as it may assist in skid correction (and not over-correction).
I'm more OTT on left-foot braking. Only because I worked with a rep years ago who it seemed was absolutely brilliant at left-footing. Then one day we had someone come out from the left and he reacted by pushing both pedals down hard and fully - in a V8 Commodore! We are still alive!
It was only a very slight fault, but I was already expecting it and not surprised when it happened.Although the Dutch medic had a nice dry road, Dutch roads can be very slippery in winter, prone to ice because it's mostly below sea level. He probably prefers a constant hand position on roundabouts as it may assist in skid correction (and not over-correction).
I'm more OTT on left-foot braking. Only because I worked with a rep years ago who it seemed was absolutely brilliant at left-footing. Then one day we had someone come out from the left and he reacted by pushing both pedals down hard and fully - in a V8 Commodore! We are still alive!
I am extremely hard on myself on steering technique. I use pull-push predominantly and fixed. Rotational is very rare as I prefer to adjust my speed.
I do use LFB in autos: I understand it is frowned upon by RoSPA and IAM and understand their reasons why, but from a personal standpoint I see it as natural (I raced karts), with the added benefit of quicker response times. I wouldnt advise it though, except for certain situations e.g., parking speeds, slippery surfaces at low speed (with a huge amount of immersion in a car park, etc, before bringing it into a public place), or on very rare occasions where a highly talented and very natural(?) ability is noted in a drive.
Edited by PhilAsia on Tuesday 20th February 13:27
Edited by PhilAsia on Tuesday 20th February 13:33
PhilAsia said:
It was only a very slight fault, but I was already expecting it and not surprised when it happened.
I am extremely hard on myself on steering technique. I use pull-push predominantly and fixed. Rotational is very rare as I prefer to adjust my speed.
I do use LFB in autos: I understand it is frowned upon by RoSPA and IAM and understand their reasons why, but from a personal standpoint I see it as natural (I raced karts), with the added benefit of quicker response times. I wouldnt teach it though, except for certain situations e.g., parking speeds, slippery surfaces at low speed (with a huge amount of immersion in a car park, etc, before bringing it into a public place), or on very rare occasions where a highly talented and very natural(?) ability is noted in a drive.
I suspect LFB also comes more naturally to bikers, after all when you are used to balancing front and rear braking with right hand and foot while doing a rev matched down change using your right hand, left hand and foot, not to mention steering* and possibly turning an indicator on then learning LFB is trivial.I am extremely hard on myself on steering technique. I use pull-push predominantly and fixed. Rotational is very rare as I prefer to adjust my speed.
I do use LFB in autos: I understand it is frowned upon by RoSPA and IAM and understand their reasons why, but from a personal standpoint I see it as natural (I raced karts), with the added benefit of quicker response times. I wouldnt teach it though, except for certain situations e.g., parking speeds, slippery surfaces at low speed (with a huge amount of immersion in a car park, etc, before bringing it into a public place), or on very rare occasions where a highly talented and very natural(?) ability is noted in a drive.
Edited by PhilAsia on Tuesday 20th February 13:27
* Not necessarily changing direction, but perhaps altering road position and certainly correcting for road surface changes.
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