Fatal Accident near Southam Sunday 28th September
Discussion
Morbid topic, I know, but does anyone on here know who it was who died yesterday? I was on the scene less than a minute after it happened, I would say, and I guess it's affected me. I spoke to the traveller who is camped at that junction later in the afternoon and heard he didn't make it.
I know travellers get a lot of bad press generally but I stopped by on my way back to have a chat with this guy to see if he knew the outcome. When I arrived on the scene he was nursing the biker. f
k what could he do? But he did it!
I couldn't.
This guy lives in a converted horsebox with his parter and two kids carving and selling garden ornament sculptures from wood. He has nothing. No water, sanitation or anything. Yeah you could say he's chosen this life / brought it on himself, but he did what I could never have done.
This guy is so much a better person than me who has money, bikes, cars, a good house and a well paid job. He deserves respect because he has what really counts and that's compassion for human beings. No more no less.
I am really sorry for the guy who died. I've always considered it black and white - either you live or die. I saw what this guy was going through and it hurt. It hurt so bad to see someone suffering like he was. I thought he was going to be okay. He didn't look too bad, but apparently it was internal injuries that got him.
We all think it will happen to someone else. We all think we are experienced enough to take appropriate action in certain circumstances but I understand this guy was only mid 20s. What do you know at that age?
I'm sorry if this is inappropriate rambling st but I've been a biker for 20 odd years and this has affected me. I don't want sympathy for how I feel - we all have st to deal with, but I want you to think about that traveller and maybe rethink your views on societies 'outcasts'. This guy is a diamond.
k what could he do? But he did it! I couldn't.
This guy lives in a converted horsebox with his parter and two kids carving and selling garden ornament sculptures from wood. He has nothing. No water, sanitation or anything. Yeah you could say he's chosen this life / brought it on himself, but he did what I could never have done.
This guy is so much a better person than me who has money, bikes, cars, a good house and a well paid job. He deserves respect because he has what really counts and that's compassion for human beings. No more no less.
I am really sorry for the guy who died. I've always considered it black and white - either you live or die. I saw what this guy was going through and it hurt. It hurt so bad to see someone suffering like he was. I thought he was going to be okay. He didn't look too bad, but apparently it was internal injuries that got him.
We all think it will happen to someone else. We all think we are experienced enough to take appropriate action in certain circumstances but I understand this guy was only mid 20s. What do you know at that age?
I'm sorry if this is inappropriate rambling s
t but I've been a biker for 20 odd years and this has affected me. I don't want sympathy for how I feel - we all have st to deal with, but I want you to think about that traveller and maybe rethink your views on societies 'outcasts'. This guy is a diamond. gutted my mum said about the accident last night as my grandad heard loads of sirens and knew the road was closed. my first thoughts were it was a biker due to the weather plus there have a been a few other fatals along the same road.
im very tempted to slate the old boy for pulling out on him but I guess you know where I would go on and its not really needed on here.
RIP dude and my thoughts are with your family and friends
Ive driven past the travellers many a time and to be fair they never make a mess like the other travellers/pikeys and some of their carvings are works of art so fair play to them for trying to help.
im very tempted to slate the old boy for pulling out on him but I guess you know where I would go on and its not really needed on here.
RIP dude and my thoughts are with your family and friends
Ive driven past the travellers many a time and to be fair they never make a mess like the other travellers/pikeys and some of their carvings are works of art so fair play to them for trying to help.
starmist said:
I know travellers get a lot of bad press generally but I stopped by on my way back to have a chat with this guy to see if he knew the outcome. When I arrived on the scene he was nursing the biker. fk what could he do? But he did it!
I couldn't.
This guy lives in a converted horsebox with his parter and two kids carving and selling garden ornament sculptures from wood. He has nothing. No water, sanitation or anything. Yeah you could say he's chosen this life / brought it on himself, but he did what I could never have done.
This guy is so much a better person than me who has money, bikes, cars, a good house and a well paid job. He deserves respect because he has what really counts and that's compassion for human beings. No more no less.
I am really sorry for the guy who died. I've always considered it black and white - either you live or die. I saw what this guy was going through and it hurt. It hurt so bad to see someone suffering like he was. I thought he was going to be okay. He didn't look too bad, but apparently it was internal injuries that got him.
We all think it will happen to someone else. We all think we are experienced enough to take appropriate action in certain circumstances but I understand this guy was only mid 20s. What do you know at that age?
I'm sorry if this is inappropriate rambling st but I've been a biker for 20 odd years and this has affected me. I don't want sympathy for how I feel - we all have st to deal with, but I want you to think about that traveller and maybe rethink your views on societies 'outcasts'. This guy is a diamond.
Slightly off topic but "travellers" and "pikeys" are a world apart.k what could he do? But he did it! I couldn't.
This guy lives in a converted horsebox with his parter and two kids carving and selling garden ornament sculptures from wood. He has nothing. No water, sanitation or anything. Yeah you could say he's chosen this life / brought it on himself, but he did what I could never have done.
This guy is so much a better person than me who has money, bikes, cars, a good house and a well paid job. He deserves respect because he has what really counts and that's compassion for human beings. No more no less.
I am really sorry for the guy who died. I've always considered it black and white - either you live or die. I saw what this guy was going through and it hurt. It hurt so bad to see someone suffering like he was. I thought he was going to be okay. He didn't look too bad, but apparently it was internal injuries that got him.
We all think it will happen to someone else. We all think we are experienced enough to take appropriate action in certain circumstances but I understand this guy was only mid 20s. What do you know at that age?
I'm sorry if this is inappropriate rambling s
t but I've been a biker for 20 odd years and this has affected me. I don't want sympathy for how I feel - we all have st to deal with, but I want you to think about that traveller and maybe rethink your views on societies 'outcasts'. This guy is a diamond. Every time I encounter a "Traveller" or sometimes called a "Romany-Gypsy" they are very kind and helpful. They look after the environment and the area they live and are truly fantastic people who may lead a 'basic' lifestyle but are entirely happy and are 'free' in every sense of the word.
Now "Pikeys" can only be compared to Locusts they ravage the land and cause disturbances to the locals etc. Then they pick up and go leaving a wake of destruction and crap behind them.
RIP
Be safe out there guys
Absolutely tragic. One of my favourite stretches of road as well.
The visibility of that junction is very good and even travelling quickly one should have time to take action for the inevitable 'pull out'.
There was a self inflicted fatal a couple of miles farther on, towards Fenny Compton some months back.
I suppose that means that the FEDS will be all over the place like a rash with their cameras and covert bikes; just like the 361.
RIP my friend, I will aknowledge when next I pass the spot.
The visibility of that junction is very good and even travelling quickly one should have time to take action for the inevitable 'pull out'.
There was a self inflicted fatal a couple of miles farther on, towards Fenny Compton some months back.
I suppose that means that the FEDS will be all over the place like a rash with their cameras and covert bikes; just like the 361.
RIP my friend, I will aknowledge when next I pass the spot.
This really hits things home reading things like this. I'm 22 (about the same age as the poor guy who tragically died.) and still have many years ahead of me.
It just goes to show that no matter how much I believe i am immortal I really am not.
Best wishes to all
It just goes to show that no matter how much I believe i am immortal I really am not.
Best wishes to all
Edited by speed_monkey on Tuesday 30th September 12:44
starmist said:
I know travellers get a lot of bad press generally but I stopped by on my way back to have a chat with this guy to see if he knew the outcome. When I arrived on the scene he was nursing the biker. fk what could he do? But he did it!
I couldn't.
This guy lives in a converted horsebox with his parter and two kids carving and selling garden ornament sculptures from wood. He has nothing. No water, sanitation or anything. Yeah you could say he's chosen this life / brought it on himself, but he did what I could never have done.
This guy is so much a better person than me who has money, bikes, cars, a good house and a well paid job. He deserves respect because he has what really counts and that's compassion for human beings. No more no less.
I am really sorry for the guy who died. I've always considered it black and white - either you live or die. I saw what this guy was going through and it hurt. It hurt so bad to see someone suffering like he was. I thought he was going to be okay. He didn't look too bad, but apparently it was internal injuries that got him.
We all think it will happen to someone else. We all think we are experienced enough to take appropriate action in certain circumstances but I understand this guy was only mid 20s. What do you know at that age?
I'm sorry if this is inappropriate rambling st but I've been a biker for 20 odd years and this has affected me. I don't want sympathy for how I feel - we all have st to deal with, but I want you to think about that traveller and maybe rethink your views on societies 'outcasts'. This guy is a diamond.
Understood.k what could he do? But he did it! I couldn't.
This guy lives in a converted horsebox with his parter and two kids carving and selling garden ornament sculptures from wood. He has nothing. No water, sanitation or anything. Yeah you could say he's chosen this life / brought it on himself, but he did what I could never have done.
This guy is so much a better person than me who has money, bikes, cars, a good house and a well paid job. He deserves respect because he has what really counts and that's compassion for human beings. No more no less.
I am really sorry for the guy who died. I've always considered it black and white - either you live or die. I saw what this guy was going through and it hurt. It hurt so bad to see someone suffering like he was. I thought he was going to be okay. He didn't look too bad, but apparently it was internal injuries that got him.
We all think it will happen to someone else. We all think we are experienced enough to take appropriate action in certain circumstances but I understand this guy was only mid 20s. What do you know at that age?
I'm sorry if this is inappropriate rambling s
t but I've been a biker for 20 odd years and this has affected me. I don't want sympathy for how I feel - we all have st to deal with, but I want you to think about that traveller and maybe rethink your views on societies 'outcasts'. This guy is a diamond. Sorry you had to be a part of that, not nice.
the banbury road is a very quick road and always one of my favorites when I am out in my mini, the police do sometimes sit in the lay bys around Ladbrooke speed camera wise and as far as I know there been a couple to a few deaths along the road this year with bikers involved. Since then whenever I drive on it I think of the unlucky, the crash on Saturday is a lot closer to my house so it makes me feel even worse knowing what happened kinda on my door step
It's always a very sobering feeling when you hear of a fellow bikers death.
Fair play and respect to the guy that tried to help him in his last moments. His type is irrelevant in times like that, after all, there is good and bad in all creeds, colours and religions.
Not trying to steal the post, but yet another up and coming racer also lost his life on Sunday at Brands Hatch. Ben Lightowler, in his early 20's, was involved in an accident in the Stocksport class. From what I have heard (not been confirmed)he came off at Paddock Hill, was clipped by another bike which moved him square on to an oncoming bike.
Unfortunately, even though help was at hand within seconds, he passed away that evening.
I was in the following race. The mood around the paddock was eerie. The silence that an accident like this can be deafening. As the length of time increases before your call to the grid, you know it's not good.
Although when the call finally comes, the adrenalin takes over, and your race head overtakes any emotion.
But I can tell you that evening, it played very heavily on my mind.
We know the risks when we slip that helmet over our heads, but that doesn't console those that we leave behind.
RIP Ben
Fair play and respect to the guy that tried to help him in his last moments. His type is irrelevant in times like that, after all, there is good and bad in all creeds, colours and religions.
Not trying to steal the post, but yet another up and coming racer also lost his life on Sunday at Brands Hatch. Ben Lightowler, in his early 20's, was involved in an accident in the Stocksport class. From what I have heard (not been confirmed)he came off at Paddock Hill, was clipped by another bike which moved him square on to an oncoming bike.
Unfortunately, even though help was at hand within seconds, he passed away that evening.
I was in the following race. The mood around the paddock was eerie. The silence that an accident like this can be deafening. As the length of time increases before your call to the grid, you know it's not good.
Although when the call finally comes, the adrenalin takes over, and your race head overtakes any emotion.
But I can tell you that evening, it played very heavily on my mind.
We know the risks when we slip that helmet over our heads, but that doesn't console those that we leave behind.
RIP Ben
oh thats really bad news with another up and coming rider losing their live.
I drove past the ladbrooke turning last night and saw the flowers and I will get some sorted soon to be put up, not surprissed really but the travellers have moned on. must of been so shocking to see all that went on on Sunday.
I drove past the ladbrooke turning last night and saw the flowers and I will get some sorted soon to be put up, not surprissed really but the travellers have moned on. must of been so shocking to see all that went on on Sunday.
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