Range Rover Vs Range Rover Sport

Range Rover Vs Range Rover Sport

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drfrank

Original Poster:

785 posts

203 months

Sunday 12th October 2008
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Dear All,

I am looking to buy either a RR or RR sport, I have around 25k to spend and I have seen a couple of 05/06 RR sport supercharged for around that price. What does the RR have over the RR sport ?

Which is the better bet ?

Thanks

okgo

38,072 posts

199 months

Sunday 12th October 2008
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A fine pedigree in off road ability, a pretty well rounded image.

RedLeicester

6,869 posts

246 months

Sunday 12th October 2008
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okgo said:
A fine pedigree in off road ability, a pretty well rounded image.
Erm that'll be both of them then confused

Rangie - more "practical" (bigger boot, more passenger space) vastly more luxurious, based on older floorpan.

RR Sport - less practical, better looking (subjective), rather utilitarian interior belieing it's exterior looks, based on never Disco3, so heavier than the Rangie, but also better handling, though at the expense of some of the ultimate comfort.

You pays your money, you takes your choice.... personally I'd go for the Rangie every time - the Sport isn't enough of a Cayenne-chaser to be worth the compromise in space and luxury for me, nor the extra performace, as the same engine is available in both...

Edited by RedLeicester on Sunday 12th October 20:25

PhilCerbera

4,766 posts

251 months

Monday 13th October 2008
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I drove a RR and RRS last week with a view to buy one. I drove the RRS first and found the refinement lacking - too noisy at motorway speeds and didn't like the ride (too bumpy and floaty in places). Then drove the RR and it had Merc S-Class refinement. It's (obviously) a completely different vehicle. No comparison other than the name. I'm coming from 6 years of new E-class Mercs and doing 25k+ miles pa so refinement is the number one factor for me.

RedLeicester

6,869 posts

246 months

Monday 13th October 2008
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PhilCerbera said:
I drove a RR and RRS last week with a view to buy one. I drove the RRS first and found the refinement lacking - too noisy at motorway speeds and didn't like the ride (too bumpy and floaty in places). Then drove the RR and it had Merc S-Class refinement. It's (obviously) a completely different vehicle. No comparison other than the name. I'm coming from 6 years of new E-class Mercs and doing 25k+ miles pa so refinement is the number one factor for me.
Much nodding. Quite happy to pop to the shops in the Rangie, or crush continents, matters not it'll handle both equally well.

Camel

319 posts

223 months

Monday 13th October 2008
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RedLeicester said:
Much nodding. Quite happy to pop to the shops in the Rangie, or crush continents, matters not it'll handle both equally well.
Another fan of the Rangie here, it will do the above plus much more, all with a great deal of panache. Mine lives in Switzerland at 1500m; snow a lot of the year, hillside tracks in the summer, popping back to London a few times a year, into Geneva or Gstaad for a smart evening out..... The interior really is a very nice place to be, and far nicer than the Sport.thumbup

Swoxy

2,801 posts

211 months

Monday 13th October 2008
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I wanted a Sport until I sat in one and realised it was a bag of bolts. Get the proper one.

will_wonka

52 posts

192 months

Tuesday 14th October 2008
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Both very capable and both the most desirable 4x4xfar!

okgo

38,072 posts

199 months

Tuesday 14th October 2008
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RedLeicester said:
okgo said:
A fine pedigree in off road ability, a pretty well rounded image.
Erm that'll be both of them then confused

Rangie - more "practical" (bigger boot, more passenger space) vastly more luxurious, based on older floorpan.

RR Sport - less practical, better looking (subjective), rather utilitarian interior belieing it's exterior looks, based on never Disco3, so heavier than the Rangie, but also better handling, though at the expense of some of the ultimate comfort.

You pays your money, you takes your choice.... personally I'd go for the Rangie every time - the Sport isn't enough of a Cayenne-chaser to be worth the compromise in space and luxury for me, nor the extra performace, as the same engine is available in both...

Edited by RedLeicester on Sunday 12th October 20:25
I don't think either off my statements apply to the Sport. Can't stand the things. You don't see many out in the country for a reason. But you do see scores of them in the suburbs.

will_wonka

52 posts

192 months

Tuesday 14th October 2008
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okgo said:
RedLeicester said:
okgo said:
A fine pedigree in off road ability, a pretty well rounded image.
Erm that'll be both of them then confused

Rangie - more "practical" (bigger boot, more passenger space) vastly more luxurious, based on older floorpan.

RR Sport - less practical, better looking (subjective), rather utilitarian interior belieing it's exterior looks, based on never Disco3, so heavier than the Rangie, but also better handling, though at the expense of some of the ultimate comfort.

You pays your money, you takes your choice.... personally I'd go for the Rangie every time - the Sport isn't enough of a Cayenne-chaser to be worth the compromise in space and luxury for me, nor the extra performace, as the same engine is available in both...

Edited by RedLeicester on Sunday 12th October 20:25
I don't think either off my statements apply to the Sport. Can't stand the things. You don't see many out in the country for a reason. But you do see scores of them in the suburbs.
The RRS may not {currently} have the same pace as the Cayenne, but at the end of the day, the Cayenne is no oil painting and as for so called handling, IMO, no better than a RRS. If you can live with the looks and can take the pi$$ taking, buy a Cayenne. If however you would rather have something with substance for wafting around in, buy a FFRR. If you would prefer plain good looks and envy, buy a RRS SC.

As for none being in the country, try removing you blinkers and actually driving in the country, although TBH I agree that there are far too many in the cities, the natural progression from the awful BMW X5....I know, I had one!! frown

okgo

38,072 posts

199 months

Tuesday 14th October 2008
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Envy rofl

I am saying that the original range rover had what I said in my first post, imo the sport has none of this. And was a fantastic piece of marketing by land rover to appeal to all the types that brought down the image of the original.

And I am sure its made them a silly amount of money, because they realised that nobody bought the range rover for what it could do, just its imposing looks and the so called 'envy' of other drivers(I know some people bought them because of their ability hehe). So they have banged out a a version that has nothing in the grand scheme of things (bar looks) and they have pinned down the footballer-esque market, and have sold thousands.

And in regards to the countryside bit, I notice you live in Hants to, unless you have lived in a bit that I have not lived near (unlikely) then I would say the blinkers are all yours. And I can tell you that none of my parents neighbours have the sport, but they have land rovers of various guises in the garage.



Edited by okgo on Tuesday 14th October 10:29

will_wonka

52 posts

192 months

Tuesday 14th October 2008
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okgo said:
Envy rofl

I am saying that the original range rover had what I said in my first post, imo the sport has none of this. And was a fantastic piece of marketing by land rover to appeal to all the types that brought down the image of the original.

And I am sure its made them a silly amount of money, because they realised that nobody bought the range rover for what it could do, just its imposing looks and the so called 'envy' of other drivers(I know some people bought them because of their ability hehe). So they have banged out a a version that has nothing in the grand scheme of things (bar looks) and they have pinned down the footballer-esque market, and have sold thousands.

And in regards to the countryside bit, I notice you live in Hants to, unless you have lived in a bit that I have not lived near (unlikely) then I would say the blinkers are all yours. And I can tell you that none of my parents neighbours have the sport, but they have land rovers of various guises in the garage.



Edited by okgo on Tuesday 14th October 10:29
smile

I find that hard to believe, you being a Hants boy (something I categorically I am not - I come from richer blood lines - Surrey)smile and not seeing the millions (keyword) of RRS menacing the roads. It has definately sold by the bucket loads for LR, as you say. TBH, it is actually a victim of its own success and now bordering on common. The good news is it is still not as common as the dreadful HeX5, Toerag or not so bad Q7.

At the end of the day, the big daddy RR is never going to topple from its throne as the ultimate 4x4, but it is a close run thing with its baby brother being the most desirable, looks or whatever, there is no getting away from the fact that it is a great package.

As for ability - both the D3 and RRS knocks spots of the Daddy, plain and simple.

Edited by will_wonka on Tuesday 14th October 11:14


Edited by will_wonka on Tuesday 14th October 11:15


Edited by will_wonka on Tuesday 14th October 11:16

okgo

38,072 posts

199 months

Tuesday 14th October 2008
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Its not a great package to me in the slightest.

Its common, laughed at by many when you live in a semi just outside town, it also looses money quicker than Montgomery Brewster.

At least when you buy a BMW M car you are getting a car that can out perform most of its class, so you can live with the image. In the RR sport I am not so sure..

smile

And FYI I would say to every tourag and q7 here, there is at least 3 RRS. They are by far the most common SUV/4x4 in these parts.





Edited by okgo on Tuesday 14th October 11:22


Edited by okgo on Tuesday 14th October 11:23

RedLeicester

6,869 posts

246 months

Tuesday 14th October 2008
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Chap has a point - Sports are pretty rare out here, whereas Discos, FFRRs and Defenders are ten a penny. Head towards the conurbations and suddenly the Sports start appearing!

philcray

846 posts

204 months

Tuesday 14th October 2008
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Obviously all comes down to personal opinion at the end of the day. Personally i would not be that tempted by a RRS even if they were giving them away (ok, i might think about taking one!) but i am very drawn to the RR. The price crash is producing some quite tempting ones including a TDV8 HSE on an 06 plate from a LR main dealer with sub 20k miles at c£29k, seen on Autotrader. Not a Vogue and a bit over your budget but i imagine there is a deal to be done if tempted!

will_wonka

52 posts

192 months

Tuesday 14th October 2008
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okgo said:
Its not a great package to me in the slightest.

Its common, laughed at by many when you live in a semi just outside town, it also looses money quicker than Montgomery Brewster.

At least when you buy a BMW M car you are getting a car that can out perform most of its class, so you can live with the image. In the RR sport I am not so sure..

smile

And FYI I would say to every tourag and q7 here, there is at least 3 RRS. They are by far the most common SUV/4x4 in these parts.





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Edited by okgo on Tuesday 14th October 11:23
Not sure what type of house you live in has to do with the price of eggs, unless of course you are a jonesy type? I have the luxury of having my nearest neighbour some 1/4 mile away (just in case you want to gauge on the jonesyometer) and have the choice to drive either a FF and RRS. smile

I agree, the BMW stable is very impressive and yes their cars do sometimes outperform other cars in their class, but only sometimes. I reguarly eat M5's and M3's for breakfast along with whatever other type of Halfords modded Alpina's that get in my way daily. Not in the RRS I hasten to add, I simply run over them smile, its more sporting.

I see your eye sight as well as your counting is something to be desired - 3xRRS for every Toe/Q7.....yeah right.....for some, the Toerag offers excellent value for money, after all, its a Golf on stilts right?

Edited by will_wonka on Tuesday 14th October 12:55


Edited by will_wonka on Tuesday 14th October 13:04

okgo

38,072 posts

199 months

Tuesday 14th October 2008
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I was just referencing what I see in the area in terms of houses with the said car. There are plenty of exceptions.

And if you came here, you would see that I am talking sense, there really are that many of them around here.

will_wonka

52 posts

192 months

Tuesday 14th October 2008
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okgo said:
I was just referencing what I see in the area in terms of houses with the said car. There are plenty of exceptions.

And if you came here, you would see that I am talking sense, there really are that many of them around here.
Fair point, but I guess we live in 2 completely different areas of Hants where they is obviously a huge divide in car choice smile

okgo

38,072 posts

199 months

Tuesday 14th October 2008
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will_wonka said:
okgo said:
I was just referencing what I see in the area in terms of houses with the said car. There are plenty of exceptions.

And if you came here, you would see that I am talking sense, there really are that many of them around here.
Fair point, but I guess we live in 2 completely different areas of Hants where they is obviously a huge divide in car choice smile
I am talking about Surrey for this.

Hants probably has way more of the cheaper brands, or the real ones wink

will_wonka

52 posts

192 months

Tuesday 14th October 2008
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okgo said:
will_wonka said:
okgo said:
I was just referencing what I see in the area in terms of houses with the said car. There are plenty of exceptions.

And if you came here, you would see that I am talking sense, there really are that many of them around here.
Fair point, but I guess we live in 2 completely different areas of Hants where they is obviously a huge divide in car choice smile
I am talking about Surrey for this.

Hants probably has way more of the cheaper brands, or the real ones wink