Any One Got Any Experience of UltraSeal?

[buxton]

With no spare type on a Noble any way of reducing the stranded with a puncture and looking for a trailor - event sounds good to me.

Looking at an advert in "Expert Verdict" which has UltraSeal "Punctures a Thing of the Past". It says its a liquid chemical additive, which automatically coats the inside of the tyre and remains fluid to instantly fill any puncture the instant it occurs.

Anyone used it, or got any feedback from other sources? can it be used in high performance cars?

[amg merc]

My Wicked Wheels guy was impressed with the sales pitch on this - he said in was big in the US and someone was over here looking for UK dealerships.

[alan_leamy]

As we say in Dublin "Jayus". No spare wheel. Have 3R on order for 3 months and never thought about or realised that there is no place for a spare.

Does anyone else not find this mind blowing.

Hope that stuff works on punctures.

Alan

[joust]

Quick google gives these "recommendations"

http://websites.uk-plc.net/Buy_It_For_Your_Bike_com/products/ULTRASEAL_-_TYRE_PROTECTOR.htm

www.bmwclub.org.uk/ultraseal-tech.html

www.honest-johns.co.uk/acatalog/HONEST_JOHNS_ULTRASEAL_188.html

www.britnett.net/bifyb/page1.html

www.employees.org/~tw/rrs/ib219/cgi-bin/topic.cgi?forum=1&topic=800

Views seem to be generally "pro".

J

[joust]

They give you the normal can of "gunk" (ala Elise) - and even cars like Rover 200's nowdays don't come with spares - so it's not that uncommon.

The gunk got me home fine when one of my tyres had a puncture - unfortunatly I had destroyed the tyre by driving on it uninflated and so had to have a new one (see my car profile for details).

J

[amg merc]

joust said:

They give you the normal can of "gunk" (ala Elise) - and even cars like Rover 200's nowdays don't come with spares - so it's not that uncommon. The gunk got me home fine when one of my tyres had a puncture - unfortunatly I had destroyed the tyre by driving on it uninflated and so had to have a new one (see my car profile for details). J

Justin, this Ultrseal potentially sounds better than filling a tyre once already flat - this goes into all tyres once when new and stays there only activating if punctured!

[buxton]

Thanks, I think I will place my order, and once fitted I'll let you know how I get on. Hopefully I will never know anything until I replace the tyres...

[Lynton]

I have had a bit of experience with stuff like UltraSeal, but on a bike. The only two down-sides are
a) you may not know you have a puncture which can get worse over time and be catastrophic, and b) the tyre changing guys will not like you for it - especially when it covers them with slime when you get the tyre changed.

[MisterX]

alan_leamy said:

As we say in Dublin "Jayus". No spare wheel. Have 3R on order for 3 months and never thought about or realised that there is no place for a spare. Does anyone else not find this mind blowing. Hope that stuff works on punctures. Alan

Anyway, you'd need TWO spares as front and back are different !

[buxton]

My Honda NSX used to have a similar issue (two different sized wheels), and they got around that by supplying a special wheel (and compressor) which you inflated to the correct size (folding tyre). Very clever, but obviously limited the speed you could do with this wheel. Boot was big enough to take the massive rear wheel (amazing car).

I think they have same sized wheels now, wonder if they got rid of the special wheel and tyre?

[Buxton]

Well I got the Ultraseal in the Post and went to put it in the tyres. As the tyre sizes weren't listed I had to ring Ultraseal to find out how much to put in the front and rear tyres.

The bad news is that they don't support low profile tyres (anything smaller than 45) as a lot of these tyres have an internal ridge down the centre that stops the Ultraseal from spreading across the tyre. Apparently the advert in expert verdict should had the line "low profile tyres not supported" but it was done is a rush and ommitted. Future adverts will have this in.

If I took the tyres off to see if they have a ridge, then if they don't it could be applied but they won't support you. As I have got the standard Bridgestones on, does anyone know if the tyres have an internal ridge?

Good news is that Ultraseal have promised to refund the money in full.

[MisterX]

My GTO3 came equipped with Ultraseal (canister of) when I bought it, so someone obviously thinks it does the trick.

[buxton]

The canister is different and is applied after a puncture totry and get you home / garage. The Ultraseal is a different product that is applied before a puncture and sits in the tyre all the time.

Got my money back at the weekend, but has anyone looked inside the standard bridgestones to see if they have any ridges that stop the Ultraseal spreading?

[ashp]

Sunday Times 16/11/03 - Driving section. New product called ComfortSystem comprises air compressor, pressure gauge and temporary sealant in one unit. Costs 69.95 plus 6.50 P&P from KSG 01604 493247

[kj-r]

This topic has come up before , what worries me how do you know when you have a puncture? and therefore how dangerous is it to drive fast not knowing !
Think l prefer things as they are.
Kevin

[joust]

kj-r said:

This topic has come up before , what worries me how do you know when you have a puncture? and therefore how dangerous is it to drive fast not knowing !

That is the "claimed" point - you don't, and don't need to....

I seem to remember somewhere it saying it was speed rated up to something silly, so it's apparently as good a repair as a "take it off and patch it" one. Apparently they have one developed for the US Military that will reseal a 7.62mm NATO round...

Basically it's the same as blood/Radweld- namely its a "fiberous" substance that "clots" and "cures" when it hits external air - just for tyres!

J

[SpeedDemon]

You'd think that this could have an impact on the balance of the tire if it was running around with this gunk in it.. (?)

Marc

[joust]

Not really. It's an amorphous substance with a high coefficicent of "cling" - consequently it spreads itself around the tyre to a depth of a few 100ths of a mm and then just "sticks" there.

If you leave the car standing for a long time you'll get a small puddle in the bottom, but it will soon redistribute itself around easily enough it seems.

J