Considering an E46...

Considering an E46...

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Luke85

Original Poster:

897 posts

187 months

Tuesday 23rd December 2008
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What is everyones opinion on the E46? What spec to go for? Things to look out for etc? Cheers! driving

fluffnik

20,156 posts

228 months

Tuesday 23rd December 2008
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...or a CSL.

Ment-Al

16,988 posts

196 months

Tuesday 23rd December 2008
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22/23?

Car sales exec for Vauxhall.

Im going to go out on a limb and say a CSL probably isnt within budget, but obviously i may be wrong.

I had a 318Ci Sport - did what it was intended to do just fine. Looked great, but didnt have the go to back up the looks unfortunately.

Id go for a nice 325Ci if you could? There are a few about at decent prices. It really depends what you want to spend?

http://www.pistonheads.co.uk/classifieds/807115.ht...

Prices really are dropping. I havent got a lot of time to search for you and mine wasnt really that well spec'd but if it is an M Sport I know you will get parking sensors, climate, cruise as well as the usual stuff. Look at insurance too.

Leather is a good option, xenons if you can find them?

IME they are fairly bulletproof -

jonny996

2,618 posts

218 months

Tuesday 23rd December 2008
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Get sport spec, then just decide, 2,4 or 5 doors then 4 or 6 pots.

Not a risky choice as they have been proven & you will always be able to sell a nice E46

mikey-r

408 posts

198 months

Tuesday 23rd December 2008
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I have two 330d's - an 02' Sport and an 04' SE Touring. Both have leather - I personally wouldn't consider one without - the main differences are:

Sport - Excellent bucket seats, firmer suspension, black headlining (doesn't sound much I know but IMO really adds to the feel when in the car), standard 18" alloys, auto dimming mirror and a chunky 'M' steering wheel with controls (stereo, cruise).

SE - basically above less bucket seats (still leather though), sofer suspension, standard roof lining and a slimmer steering wheel.

ES - don't go there.

I prefer the Sports suspension when on a/b roads but it can become tiresome on motorways.

Engines... How many miles do you do? I do about 400 miles a week so the 330d is ideal - packs a punch and quite economical (average 36MPG). My brother in law has an '03 330 Ci - he doesn't do many miles but averages about 28MPG.

jonny996

2,618 posts

218 months

Tuesday 23rd December 2008
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Those MPG figures are intresting, Considering Desiel is 12% more than petrol that only gives you 5MPG more in real terms.

Add to this that a 330d will cost a lot more than a 330i to buy & has the derv's popularity become its own down fall?

mikey-r

408 posts

198 months

Tuesday 23rd December 2008
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It's a good point. Doing a quick calculation... I save about £35 per month on actual fuel costs based on 36mpg diesel vs 28MPG petrol although I'd be interested to see if 28MPG is a readily achievable on the 3.0 petrol.

Are diesel cars that much more than the petrols? Presuming they are... isn't it relative anyway as, when you come to sell it, you'd get more than the petrol equivalent?


pstruck

3,518 posts

250 months

Tuesday 23rd December 2008
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mikey-r said:
I'd be interested to see if 28MPG is a readily achievable on the 3.0 petrol.
yes
Mine is showing 29MPG average over the last 3000 miles. Driving consists mostly of my commute of dual carriageway and a bit of town work, plus also a fair bit of country B roads.

blackburnbmw

2,336 posts

199 months

Tuesday 23rd December 2008
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330ci auto with a lot of stop / start town work = 20mpg or less for me. However, a quiet motorway and the cruise control set to 55mph gives nigh on 39mpg according to the OBC.

Still, I didn't buy it for economy...

pstruck

3,518 posts

250 months

Tuesday 23rd December 2008
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blackburnbmw said:
330ci auto with a lot of stop / start town work = 20mpg or less for me. However, a quiet motorway and the cruise control set to 55mph gives nigh on 39mpg according to the OBC.

Still, I didn't buy it for economy...
Should have added above that mine is a manual.

mikey-r

408 posts

198 months

Tuesday 23rd December 2008
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I think the last two posts show how much the MPG can vary between driving styles/circumstances. My daily cummute is roughly 20% A roads, 60% motorway and 20% crawling in town. I'm sure if I drove mine a little more carefully I'd manage 40MPG but then again I'm sure I would die of boredom!

Going back to the diesel vs petrol though, with the new petrol engines BMW have now I'm sure it's much tighter than it used to be. But I think my argument still stands that you may pay a premium for a diesel car in the first place but you would also see that returned when you sell it so it really is down to the difference in actual fuel costs? Unless diesels are that much more to maintain?




toasty

7,487 posts

221 months

Tuesday 23rd December 2008
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pstruck said:
mikey-r said:
I'd be interested to see if 28MPG is a readily achievable on the 3.0 petrol.
yes
Mine is showing 29MPG average over the last 3000 miles. Driving consists mostly of my commute of dual carriageway and a bit of town work, plus also a fair bit of country B roads.
+1 Driving sensibly with 70% motorway work gave me 29mpg on my manual 330ci.

Now it's gets used for shorter journeys it's down to 26.

It does like a litre of oil every 1500 miles or so but it has done 107k now.

SpeedIsProgress

231 posts

200 months

mpm1987

755 posts

186 months

Tuesday 23rd December 2008
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Im averaging 30mpg in my 330d sport auto, with mixed driving, however, if I'm doing a motorway journey, I would normally see about 36mpg.

mikey-r

408 posts

198 months

Tuesday 23rd December 2008
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That M3 does look a peach even if a little pricey but I suppose it does have very low miles.

Very rewarding cars to drive but too high cost/maintenance for me. My neighbour has an '03 M3 with late 30k on the clock. His last service was over £1000 (I'm guessing it was an inspec 2) and he struggle to get better than 18MPG. My Subaru WRX (with PPP) averaged better MPG than that with very comparable performance and much cheap servicing.

All that said... if they had made an M3 Touring I might have been sorely tempted!

sjj84

2,390 posts

220 months

Tuesday 23rd December 2008
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I've got a 330ci sport, manual averaging around 28mpg ish on a mixture of roads but no motorways.
Personnally I'd go for the 330 over any of the other models, in either petrol or diesel as both are very capable. The choice between the two I guess would be down to the milage you intend to do.
The running costs between the 325 and 330 are virtually the same, so really, it's not worth getting the smaller engine. As for the 4-pot models, I've driven a few and certainly wouldn't rate them.
Definately look for a sport, the extras are more than worth the slight premium in price, ie seats, bodykit, wheels etc. If you aren't particularly bothered about that, I'd certainly advise you to look for an SE with sports seats as the standard ones over long distance really aren't very comfy.
Whatever you decide, there's plenty to choose from and they are pretty reliable so it seems. Good luck with the hunt and purchase.

Doctor Bone

382 posts

215 months

Tuesday 23rd December 2008
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mpm1987 said:
Im averaging 30mpg in my 330d sport auto, with mixed driving, however, if I'm doing a motorway journey, I would normally see about 36mpg.
I regularly got this in my petrol 330i sport.

Sticks2

8,777 posts

252 months

Tuesday 23rd December 2008
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mpm1987 said:
Im averaging 30mpg in my 330d sport auto, with mixed driving, however, if I'm doing a motorway journey, I would normally see about 36mpg.
Similar figures for me, maybe 35 in summer average.

I found the SE too soft and seats not supportive enough. Otherwise, thoroughly loved it.

bimmer_87

205 posts

188 months

Tuesday 23rd December 2008
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i can average around low 20's of sensible local driving

wind that down to 17/18 when abit of enthusiasm is in the mix! ;-)

I own a 325ci sport with the SMG gearbox

the 'box is abit of a marmite thing, you either love it or hate it, i sometimes feel both, especially crawling in traffic up a hill is the worst! but empty country roads.....hmmmm......lovely!

anyway back to the original question, from my experiences the sports suspension is quite hard, especially if you have bumpy roads in your area, and as for the 6 pot 2.5, its great! its moderatly fast, sounds pretty good aswell, but i would prefer a 330!

gizlaroc

17,251 posts

225 months

Wednesday 24th December 2008
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bimmer_87 said:
.......especially crawling in traffic up a hill is the worst!
Pull the left paddle back for 3 seconds and it ups the revs and stops it rolling backwards.