Z4MC inspection I
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Hey there, just a quickie...the next service I'm due is inspection I which, from the indicator at start-up will fall at roughly 30k miles, does this sound about right? I thought it would be a bit sooner. My service record thus far is M inspection at 1k , oil at 9.5k and brake fluid at 15k (current = 16.5k)
Thanks in advance
Thanks in advance
Sounds like its getting an easy life! My will be about 22-23k which is average as far as i can tell. Does yours do a lot of long easy runs as opposed to a lot of cold starts or track work?
ETA Brake fluid is time dependent (2yrs from build). First service is 1200mls and other services are based on how its driven.
ETA Brake fluid is time dependent (2yrs from build). First service is 1200mls and other services are based on how its driven.
Edited by ian in lancs on Saturday 27th December 12:02
daz05 said:
Mmmmmm (no pun intended) you've got me wondering now!! Mine had the oil service at 11,500 and its only asking for another oil service at 33k?? I'm confused any idea why? Surely it should be asking for an inspection 1.
The normal sequence ismls
1200 - running in service
c 12000 - oil service
c 24000 - inspection i
c 36000 - oil service
c 48000 - inspection ii
c 50000 - oil service an so on
I'd be checking the book for whats been done or ask a BMW Dealer to check on their computer. I think its had an inspection 1 done at maybe c 21000mls. Was it a BMW Approved Used Car? IIRC if its due a service they'll do it as part of the prep. and you're not aware of it.
Ian, I think you've hit the nail on the head. I've just bought mine from a BMW dealer as an AUC so it could have had a cheeky stealth service at 16.5k (my current mileage) even though there's nothing on the book. I guess that means I wont need an Inspection I. Come to think of it, I think the next service needed in 13k miles is an oil service even though the last recorded service (at 10k) was also an oil service.
Mine has nothing in the book since the 1200 inspection.
The BMW AUC dealer I bought it from denies doing an oil service, and the original owner says he handed it to the dealer with the service indicator showing an oil service due.
They either reset the SI and didn't do the service, or did the service and haven't recorded it anywhere (not in their computer, my service booklet, or the key history).
The BMW AUC dealer I bought it from denies doing an oil service, and the original owner says he handed it to the dealer with the service indicator showing an oil service due.
They either reset the SI and didn't do the service, or did the service and haven't recorded it anywhere (not in their computer, my service booklet, or the key history).
mmm-five said:
Mine has nothing in the book since the 1200 inspection.
The BMW AUC dealer I bought it from denies doing an oil service, and the original owner says he handed it to the dealer with the service indicator showing an oil service due.
They either reset the SI and didn't do the service, or did the service and haven't recorded it anywhere (not in their computer, my service booklet, or the key history).
If its an AUC talk to BMW UK or another dealer. You either need the book stamping if the service has been done or the car servicing if it hasn't. I would certainly want to know why it was reset without doing a service. If that's the case they owe you big time 'cos the [engine] warranty is void!The BMW AUC dealer I bought it from denies doing an oil service, and the original owner says he handed it to the dealer with the service indicator showing an oil service due.
They either reset the SI and didn't do the service, or did the service and haven't recorded it anywhere (not in their computer, my service booklet, or the key history).
The way the E46 / Z4 service indicator works is it is reset to 15500 mls after a service. The system measures c2250 litres or 500 UK Gallons which at 31mpg equate to 15500 miles. If you get say 22 mpg you'll get 11000 miles between services. 34 mpg and you'll get closer to 17000 mls. Clearly, a lot of cold starts or stop-start driving uses more fuel and thus less miles between services.
As the Z4M gets about 24mpg then expect about 12000 mls between services - depending on use; hence my intervals shown above. Correspondingly it's possible to determine how hard the car has been driven / used - useful if you're buying one. Other engine variants with different mpg's will get different intervals. On my 2.5 Z4 I got 16000 mls.
If you haven't had a Z4M serviced / book stamped at around 12k mls between services then something is wrong.
As the Z4M gets about 24mpg then expect about 12000 mls between services - depending on use; hence my intervals shown above. Correspondingly it's possible to determine how hard the car has been driven / used - useful if you're buying one. Other engine variants with different mpg's will get different intervals. On my 2.5 Z4 I got 16000 mls.
If you haven't had a Z4M serviced / book stamped at around 12k mls between services then something is wrong.
Edited by ian in lancs on Sunday 28th December 18:39
ian in lancs said:
mmm-five said:
Mine has nothing in the book since the 1200 inspection.
The BMW AUC dealer I bought it from denies doing an oil service, and the original owner says he handed it to the dealer with the service indicator showing an oil service due.
They either reset the SI and didn't do the service, or did the service and haven't recorded it anywhere (not in their computer, my service booklet, or the key history).
If its an AUC talk to BMW UK or another dealer. You either need the book stamping if the service has been done or the car servicing if it hasn't. I would certainly want to know why it was reset without doing a service. If that's the case they owe you big time 'cos the [engine] warranty is void!The BMW AUC dealer I bought it from denies doing an oil service, and the original owner says he handed it to the dealer with the service indicator showing an oil service due.
They either reset the SI and didn't do the service, or did the service and haven't recorded it anywhere (not in their computer, my service booklet, or the key history).
The previous owner said he didn't do it, and his supplying dealer didn't do anything other than the original PDI check. The running in service was done in Nottingham. These two stamps are there and confirmed on the BMW national computer (at a cost of £1/minute) - they also said my warranty is intact, but had nothing else down for my car.
The dealer I bought it from have initially said they've not reset it, nor have they done an oil service.
I've just asked that either they stamp the book and put a record of this service being done on their computer and the national computer, or explain to me why they can't.
I'm doing an oil service myself in the New Year anyway and will make sure there's a max of 6,000 miles between oil services. These I'll just enter in the service schedule myself, no point spending over £200 for a gallon and a half of oil and an oil filter!
The scheduled services will be done by a BMW-approved engineer as & when required, and will be marked in the book and the SI reset accordingly.
mmm-five said:
I've just asked that either they stamp the book and put a record of this service being done on their computer and the national computer, or explain to me why they can't.
Heads you win, tails you win!mmm-five said:
I'm doing an oil service myself in the New Year anyway and will make sure there's a max of 6,000 miles between oil services. These I'll just enter in the service schedule myself, no point spending over £200 for a gallon and a half of oil and an oil filter!
That's exactly what I'd do and keep the receipts for the oil and oil filter. The other thing they should change for an 'oil service' is the air-con microfilter - not a problem if it wasn't changed. The rest of the items are fluid level and general inspections including tyres. Things most enthusiastic owners would do anyway.My car is an AUC too. My oil service was done at 12k by Sytner and mileage is currently at 20k. Yet the indicator is saying 13k for next service. By my reckoning it should say due in about 4k or so. The dealer is saying they didn't service it so I'm in the same boat as mmmm five. Lots of questions to ask me thinks.
mmmm five did yu call bmw customer services or the supplying dealer?
mmmm five did yu call bmw customer services or the supplying dealer?
daz05 said:
My car is an AUC too. My oil service was done at 12k by Sytner and mileage is currently at 20k. Yet the indicator is saying 13k for next service. By my reckoning it should say due in about 4k or so. The dealer is saying they didn't service it so I'm in the same boat as mmmm five. Lots of questions to ask me thinks.
mmmm five did yu call bmw customer services or the supplying dealer?
I called everyone - Sytner (original supplying dealer), BMW Nottingham (did 1200 service), BMW GB (£1/minute number), and finally Specialist Cars that I bought it off.mmmm five did yu call bmw customer services or the supplying dealer?
Sytner & BMW Nottingham were quite open about what they did and BMW GB told me everything that was on their computer. It's only Specialist Cars I've got the issue with as far as I can see.
daz05 said:
My car is an AUC too. My oil service was done at 12k by Sytner and mileage is currently at 20k. Yet the indicator is saying 13k for next service. By my reckoning it should say due in about 4k or so. The dealer is saying they didn't service it so I'm in the same boat as mmmm five. Lots of questions to ask me thinks.
mmmm five did yu call bmw customer services or the supplying dealer?
based on your numbers...mmmm five did yu call bmw customer services or the supplying dealer?
mls
???? running in service
c12000 oil service so next service due c 24000
c17500 service indicator reset - was an inspection i done? It's expensive (£660 at BMW MD) and skilled as it involves measuring and shimming tappets. My money is on the SI being reset without the work being done. Maybe just the oil was changed and SI reset but that's not enough. If its a BMW AUC from a BMW dealer - you've got them under AUC contract - "Only BMWs that have been maintained in strict adherence to BMW servicing recommendations can qualify as Approved Used BMWs. In addition, any BMW with a service due within 4,000 miles or displaying less than three service interval lights has the appropriate service carried out prior to delivery."
An independent retailer depends on what was in the verbal/written contract.
????? purchase miles; if less than 20000mls and logically it was the car should have been serviced. Did you get it around 17500mls?
20000 current mileage
33000 oil service due - 21000mls since previous recorded service (too much) or 15500 after when the SI was probably reset.
I'd talk to BMW as the warranty might be at risk.
Edited by ian in lancs on Sunday 28th December 22:25
morning all...sorry to hijack the post!... my z4mc has developed a very audible whining noise when i break and come to a standstill...noticed yesterday after a run up to wales... breaks and everything else seem to be working ok, no warning lights either. just sounds like im driving a rusty old banger???...any ideas what this could be?
thank you in advance
thank you in advance
Doesn't the engine have to be stone cold to do the valve clearance checks?
If so, then any car that's had an Inspection that's taken less than a day will probably not have had these checked.
I worked out that in the first 3 years I had my M5, it went to BMW 3 times for valve clearance checks/shimming and I don't beleive they were ever done on a stone cold engine, as I would drop it off before 10am and get it back by 4pm.
If so, then any car that's had an Inspection that's taken less than a day will probably not have had these checked.
I worked out that in the first 3 years I had my M5, it went to BMW 3 times for valve clearance checks/shimming and I don't beleive they were ever done on a stone cold engine, as I would drop it off before 10am and get it back by 4pm.
ian in lancs said:
daz05 said:
My car is an AUC too. My oil service was done at 12k by Sytner and mileage is currently at 20k. Yet the indicator is saying 13k for next service. By my reckoning it should say due in about 4k or so. The dealer is saying they didn't service it so I'm in the same boat as mmmm five. Lots of questions to ask me thinks.
mmmm five did yu call bmw customer services or the supplying dealer?
based on your numbers...mmmm five did yu call bmw customer services or the supplying dealer?
mls
???? running in service
c12000 oil service so next service due c 24000
c17500 service indicator reset - was an inspection i done? It's expensive (£660 at BMW MD) and skilled as it involves measuring and shimming tappets. My money is on the SI being reset without the work being done. Maybe just the oil was changed and SI reset but that's not enough. If its a BMW AUC from a BMW dealer - you've got them under AUC contract - "Only BMWs that have been maintained in strict adherence to BMW servicing recommendations can qualify as Approved Used BMWs. In addition, any BMW with a service due within 4,000 miles or displaying less than three service interval lights has the appropriate service carried out prior to delivery."
An independent retailer depends on what was in the verbal/written contract.
????? purchase miles; if less than 20000mls and logically it was the car should have been serviced. Did you get it around 17500mls?
20000 current mileage
33000 oil service due - 21000mls since previous recorded service (too much) or 15500 after when the SI was probably reset.
I'd talk to BMW as the warranty might be at risk.
Edited by ian in lancs on Sunday 28th December 22:25
I got it with 19500mls
Going to call BMW as I think your theory is correct. Will see if I can get a service done FOC!! Wish me luck.
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