boiler question
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Just had my boiler checked (rented accomodation) and been told it's 40% efficient. As the inspector said: "for every £ you spend on gas, 60p goes straight up the flue".
Then when the guy inspecting the system looked at the airing cupboard and at the cylinder he exclaimed "oh my god- what's one of those doing there?"
He's then reported to the landlord that everything is satisfactory!
Firstly, what efficiency levels can one expect from a modern condensing boiler? It must be far, far, greater in it's efficiency than this 40% efficient back boiler we have.
Secondly, can I force the landlord's hand? The heating system is maintained and serviced every year, so there is no legislation as far as I'm aware.
And no, I'm not moving. My car is at least six months off having steering again so it would be near on impossible to remove from the garage, plus the costs of moving and the upheaval involved are horrific.

Then when the guy inspecting the system looked at the airing cupboard and at the cylinder he exclaimed "oh my god- what's one of those doing there?"
He's then reported to the landlord that everything is satisfactory!

Firstly, what efficiency levels can one expect from a modern condensing boiler? It must be far, far, greater in it's efficiency than this 40% efficient back boiler we have.
Secondly, can I force the landlord's hand? The heating system is maintained and serviced every year, so there is no legislation as far as I'm aware.
And no, I'm not moving. My car is at least six months off having steering again so it would be near on impossible to remove from the garage, plus the costs of moving and the upheaval involved are horrific.
A good condensing combi should be in the high 80's in terms of efficiency.
As far as I'm aware the only legal obligations that your landlord has towards you re gas central heating is the annual safety check which he is doing/havign done.
Might be worth negotiating with him over it however. A happy tenant is a good tenant and all.
As far as I'm aware the only legal obligations that your landlord has towards you re gas central heating is the annual safety check which he is doing/havign done.
Might be worth negotiating with him over it however. A happy tenant is a good tenant and all.
Sounds more like a boiler salesman's sales pitch!
What qualifications did he have and what equipment did he use to arrive at this efficiency rating? For you the benefits of a condensing boiler would be immediate but for your landlord the payback time could be years if the existing one is working satisfactorily.
As for the hot tank in the airing cupboard I still have one heated by my condensing boiler, so they are not mutually exclusive. I didn't want a combi boiler* because I don't reckon on the life expectancy of a unit which fires up as soon as anyone in the house looks at a hot tap.
What qualifications did he have and what equipment did he use to arrive at this efficiency rating? For you the benefits of a condensing boiler would be immediate but for your landlord the payback time could be years if the existing one is working satisfactorily.
As for the hot tank in the airing cupboard I still have one heated by my condensing boiler, so they are not mutually exclusive. I didn't want a combi boiler* because I don't reckon on the life expectancy of a unit which fires up as soon as anyone in the house looks at a hot tap.
- In fact according to the installer my condensing boiler IS a combi boiler but with the combi bits removed or blanked off.
B17NNS said:
A good condensing combi should be in the high 80's in terms of efficiency.
So, twice as efficient as mine, then.B17NNS said:
As far as I'm aware the only legal obligations that your landlord has towards you re gas central heating is the annual safety check which he is doing/havign done.
I think I've got more chance of a whale up my a*se, to be honestB17NNS said:
Might be worth negotiating with him over it however. A happy tenant is a good tenant and all.
I'm a good boy anyway.Dogwatch said:
Sounds more like a boiler salesman's sales pitch!
What qualifications did he have and what equipment did he use to arrive at this efficiency rating? For you the benefits of a condensing boiler would be immediate but for your landlord the payback time could be years if the existing one is working satisfactorily.
No idea- I was at work at the time. Mrs BB-Q was in. The guy was the one appointed by the landlord.What qualifications did he have and what equipment did he use to arrive at this efficiency rating? For you the benefits of a condensing boiler would be immediate but for your landlord the payback time could be years if the existing one is working satisfactorily.
Dogwatch said:
As for the hot tank in the airing cupboard I still have one heated by my condensing boiler, so they are not mutually exclusive. I didn't want a combi boiler* because I don't reckon on the life expectancy of a unit which fires up as soon as anyone in the house looks at a hot tap.
I've gt no problem with the water cylinder- it warms the bedroom up!- In fact according to the installer my condensing boiler IS a combi boiler but with the combi bits removed or blanked off.
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