Brown in final gamble: to print money

Brown in final gamble: to print money

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catso

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14,796 posts

268 months

Wednesday 7th January 2009
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Print some for me Gordon..........

http://www.thisislondon.co.uk/standard/article-236...

"Brown in final gamble: to print money
Joe Murphy, Political Editor
07.01.09

THE Government may resort to printing extra money if interest rates keep falling.

It is being considered as a desperate measure if base rates fall so far that they cease to work as an economic lever.

Base rates are set to plunge tomorrow to the lowest level since the Bank of England was founded in 1694, with another big cut of at least half a point to 1.5 per cent or even lower.

Chancellor Alistair Darling and Bank of England governor Mervyn King are considering whether to embark on a new policy of expanding the money supply, or quantitative easing, sources today told the Evening Standard.

"We are looking at the issues," said a senior Treasury source. "No decisions have been taken."

It would mean a historic retreat from the economic housekeeping rules that have held sway since Margaret Thatcher wrested control of the money supply in the Eighties in her crusade to drive out inflation.

Printing more money would release a flood of extra funds to buy assets, with the new cash filtering through to businesses and families. It is aimed at preventing a sharp shrinkage in the money supply, a move that could prolong the recession. However, a policy of printing more cash has never been openly practised in Britain.

Economists see it as a potentially dangerous step that was unthinkable just a few months ago - recalling that unchecked money supply was at the root of hyper-inflation in Argentina in the Seventies and Germany in the Twenties. But they warned there may be no option.

Vince Cable, the Liberal Democrat shadow chancellor, said: "It would be a very dangerous course of action and if it went wrong there could be high inflation afterwards.

"But if we get into the dire straits of deflation then governments have no choice but to take drastic measures. These are policies for truly knife-edge situations."

The Bank of Japan resorted to printing money when its interest rates hit zero at the beginning of the decade and the US Federal Reserve is currently tempted to copy the policy.

But Investec chief economist Philip Shaw said: "We are sceptical that quantitative easing in the strict sense ... will give the real economy a significant push, especially as this did not appear to have a material effect in Japan earlier this decade."

Vicky Redwood of Capital Economics said: "The Bank is likely initially to tread cautiously into such new territory."

The Chancellor today warned that the recession is "far from through" and hinted that radical new policies to hasten recovery may be needed. He said the Treasury and the Bank would need to work "hand-in-hand" in future, casting a question mark over the Bank's independence.

"In the current climate, no responsible finance minister could say that's the job done, far from it," he told the Financial Times. "We are far from through this."

Figures today brought more bad news. New car sales slumped again last month, dragging the total for last year down 11.3 per cent. The boss of fashion retailer Next said the emergency VAT cut had failed to boost sales. Chief executive Simon Wolfson called it a "missed opportunity" and said tax cuts would have been better."

OzzyR1

5,745 posts

233 months

Wednesday 7th January 2009
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Christ, this country is utterly fcensored

That moron should be taken out and shot.

Oakey

27,607 posts

217 months

Wednesday 7th January 2009
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Why does printing more money cause silly prices?

Fittster

20,120 posts

214 months

Wednesday 7th January 2009
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catso said:
The Bank of Japan resorted to printing money when its interest rates hit zero at the beginning of the decade
Didn't lead to inflation there (or doing anything very much).

JamesM

3,112 posts

190 months

Wednesday 7th January 2009
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Oakey said:
Why does printing more money cause silly prices?
because its essentially worth less. It all to do with the country's gold reserves and wizardry with numbers

ShadownINja

76,497 posts

283 months

Wednesday 7th January 2009
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Didn't Mugabe do this?

Tony*T3

20,911 posts

248 months

Wednesday 7th January 2009
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Oakey said:
Why does printing more money cause silly prices?
Did you not see what happened in Zimbabwe.....?


yes sir that egg will cost you 500 billion.

How much did you say?

650 billion. 660. 670.

Man buys egg:


wolf1

3,081 posts

251 months

Wednesday 7th January 2009
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As far as I'm aware it will devalue the pond even more that it is already (i'm guessing really) so we'll soon be buying mars bars for £100 because it's worthless as a currency.

shakotan

10,721 posts

197 months

Wednesday 7th January 2009
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Oakey said:
Why does printing more money cause silly prices?
Think of it in the same concept of shares.

The more shares of a finite value there are, the less each share is worth.

Driller

8,310 posts

279 months

Wednesday 7th January 2009
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I don't know why you don't just all change to the €.

Go ooooon, you know you want to wink

catso

Original Poster:

14,796 posts

268 months

Wednesday 7th January 2009
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JamesM said:
because its essentially worth less. It all to do with the country's gold reserves and wizardry with numbers
Don't mention Gold reserves, Gordon's lost those....

10 Pence Short

32,880 posts

218 months

Wednesday 7th January 2009
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I hope Gordo has the IMF on speed dial...

village idiot

3,160 posts

268 months

Wednesday 7th January 2009
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at least it means we can all pay off our mortgages for the cost of a tin of baked beans

turbobloke

104,154 posts

261 months

Wednesday 7th January 2009
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The Chancellor today warned that the recession is "far from through"

roflroflrofl

It's hardly started, what a total wnaker.

bigTee

5,546 posts

222 months

Wednesday 7th January 2009
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of dear god.


Think its time to fix my mortage at 5% before it's too late.

GingerWizard

4,721 posts

199 months

Wednesday 7th January 2009
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OzzyR1 said:
Christ, this country is utterly fcensored

That moron should be taken out and shot.
yes... yes he should. Where do i cue?

10 Pence Short

32,880 posts

218 months

Wednesday 7th January 2009
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GingerWizard said:
OzzyR1 said:
Christ, this country is utterly fcensored

That moron should be taken out and shot.
yes... yes he should. Where do i cue?
Over a snooker table, normally...

130R

6,812 posts

207 months

Wednesday 7th January 2009
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10 Pence Short said:
I hope Gordo has the IMF on speed dial...
I'm starting to think this could actually happen.

10 Pence Short

32,880 posts

218 months

Wednesday 7th January 2009
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130R said:
10 Pence Short said:
I hope Gordo has the IMF on speed dial...
I'm starting to think this could actually happen.
scratchchin Now, who was in power last time this happened...?

Roo.

11,503 posts

208 months

Wednesday 7th January 2009
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So they print more money and give it to the banks to distribute.

I spot a flaw in their plan there.