e60 545i - MPG?

e60 545i - MPG?

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BMWBen

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4,899 posts

202 months

Wednesday 21st January 2009
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Salesman at BMW just told me that their quoted MPG of 28 is a total lie, and you actually get about 16 - is this true?

pgilc1

35,913 posts

198 months

Wednesday 21st January 2009
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BMWBen said:
Salesman at BMW just told me that their quoted MPG of 28 is a total lie, and you actually get about 16 - is this true?
All quoted MPGs are lies.

Round town i'd say 16-18 is about right - my 535d does 21mpg if i'm only doing town work.

chrisx666

808 posts

262 months

Wednesday 21st January 2009
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The published 'urban' figure for the 645 (same engine) is 17.5. Thats what mine does around town. I have never experienced the 35.3 'extra-urban' figure though, more like 25 tops. Only do 6k a year so it's not an issue - I just bung 30 quids worth in when the range gets below 80 or so. If I did over 12k a year I would not have got the V8.

SJobson

12,978 posts

265 months

Wednesday 21st January 2009
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I'd be surprised if it's worse than an E39 540i, since the E60's lighter and the engine has the more efficient Valvetronic head.

Still, it would be interesting to know if that theory is borne out in practice. I'd be disappointed with sub-20mpg round town; my 540i manages 20mpg driving into the centre of Birmingham with no great effort to be economical.

BMWBen

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4,899 posts

202 months

Wednesday 21st January 2009
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Well, quite - I was a little shocked, he also said the servicing was much more expensive than the 3litre, which I don't really get with the exception of there being more plugs!

It's made me switch my focus to the 130msport - given that it has the same performance...

Got a test drive of one on saturday - alas my part exchange now needs an accident repair after someone rear ended me on the way home from the dealership.

welwynnick

107 posts

193 months

Wednesday 21st January 2009
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I think it would make a difference whether the 545i was auto or manual (even though the official figures show little difference). My 540i use to average 25-30 depending on journey, and I'd be surprised if the 545i with valvetronic wasn't better.

Does anyone know the mph/1000rpm figure in top, as its very difficult to find these days?

I've driven a few cars with that engine, but only autos. It think the manual would be a real honey, with even better flexibility. It doesn't "suffer" from a high lift / high overlap cam to achieve the specific power.

Nick

Edited by welwynnick on Wednesday 21st January 16:31

texasjohn

3,687 posts

232 months

Wednesday 21st January 2009
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Sounds about right. I have a wonderful 118d which does a claimed 63mpg combined.

Does it fk mad

I would have had a Cooper S if I wanted a 40mpg average (it manages 45mpg in summer).


Neomagic

386 posts

202 months

Wednesday 21st January 2009
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SJobson said:
I'd be surprised if it's worse than an E39 540i, since the E60's lighter.
Not sure where you sourced that info but I know that My E39 is nowhere near the weight of an E60 of the equivalent spec.

sniff diesel

13,107 posts

213 months

Wednesday 21st January 2009
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BMWBen said:
Well, quite - I was a little shocked, he also said the servicing was much more expensive than the 3litre, which I don't really get with the exception of there being more plugs!
More plugs, holds more oil + coolant + transmission fluid, bigger brakes, bigger tyres etc...

It all adds up to make the V8 more expensive to run than the straight 6.

BMWBen

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4,899 posts

202 months

Wednesday 21st January 2009
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sniff diesel said:
BMWBen said:
Well, quite - I was a little shocked, he also said the servicing was much more expensive than the 3litre, which I don't really get with the exception of there being more plugs!
More plugs, holds more oil + coolant + transmission fluid, bigger brakes, bigger tyres etc...

It all adds up to make the V8 more expensive to run than the straight 6.
Fair point - any idea how much % wise? Need to make an informed decision :P

SJobson

12,978 posts

265 months

Thursday 22nd January 2009
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Neomagic said:
SJobson said:
I'd be surprised if it's worse than an E39 540i, since the E60's lighter.
Not sure where you sourced that info but I know that My E39 is nowhere near the weight of an E60 of the equivalent spec.
From BMW's official figures. My E39 540iA Touring weighs over 1800kg (that's without electric seats and all the other toys in mine, which is probably nearer 1900kg); a 545iA Touring auto weighs 1795kg. There's more aluminium used in the E60/E61 than the E39. And it was even mentioned when it was launched that it was one of the few cars where the replacement weighs less than the predecessor.

Guyr

2,211 posts

283 months

Sunday 25th January 2009
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Ours is used around town a lot by my wife as the school run car and gets a low of 18mg and shows up to 22mpg.

BMWBen

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4,899 posts

202 months

Sunday 25th January 2009
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Guyr said:
Ours is used around town a lot by my wife as the school run car and gets a low of 18mg and shows up to 22mpg.
Interesting - I today calculated that combined (around town and speedy mway driving split 50/50) only gets me 23mpg in the Z3...

Not so bad then.

papercup

2,490 posts

220 months

Monday 26th January 2009
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My E39 540 does 16-18 in town, 30 @ 70mph, 25 @ 90mph (all proven by pen and paper, not the computer which lies by about 2mpg at any time)

Averaged 21mpg since i got it.

welwynnick

107 posts

193 months

Tuesday 27th January 2009
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papercup said:
My E39 540 does 16-18 in town, 30 @ 70mph, 25 @ 90mph (all proven by pen and paper, not the computer which lies by about 2mpg at any time)

Averaged 21mpg since i got it.
Automatic or manual?

JamesK

2,124 posts

280 months

Tuesday 27th January 2009
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Well my E34 540 auto gets 18-19 around town and that's 13 years old with failing O2 sensors cloud9

papercup

2,490 posts

220 months

Tuesday 27th January 2009
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welwynnick said:
papercup said:
My E39 540 does 16-18 in town, 30 @ 70mph, 25 @ 90mph (all proven by pen and paper, not the computer which lies by about 2mpg at any time)

Averaged 21mpg since i got it.
Automatic or manual?
automatic