Sky+ downloading

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fatsteve

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1,143 posts

279 months

Monday 27th October 2003
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Don't think this has been done before.. But, does anyone know if it's possible to download the digital recordings from Sky+. I assume they are going to be in some kind of MPEG4 format or alike.

Answers on a postcard.

Steve

FourWheelDrift

88,722 posts

286 months

Monday 27th October 2003
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It uses MPEG 2 audio/video encoding.

It's very handy being in MPEG2 format as this can very easily be converted to DVD

Although any Capture card can be used to save to PC.

Some technical stuff here - www.satcomm20.co.uk/skyplus.htm

fatsteve

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279 months

Monday 27th October 2003
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ta FWD, I was wondering if you can transfer digitally (ie via the RS232 - bit slow) rather than using a capture card (ie to preserve quality)

Steve

FourWheelDrift

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286 months

Monday 27th October 2003
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RS232? Ah I see where you're going. You won't be able to stream the data straight off the Sky+ HD because the disk data format (directory and file structures) is not compatible with any commercial (PC) operating system. All channels except the truly free ones (such as Sky News) the raw datastream is encrypted (scrambled) using the Videoguard encryption system. To decrypt this stream you would need a Videoguard decryption module, only available inside of a Sky Digibox. This would presumably also need a valid Sky card. The movie channels further add Macrovision protection to the videostream.

The only option really is to stream the analogue video content (ideally from the SVHS or RGB outputs, as these provide better video quality) from the Sky+ to a suitable video capture card or device on your PC.

Or feed the analogue signal to a suitable input on a Digital Video (DV) cameras (which has an AV-IN port) and then streaming that via firewire to your PC. This is essentially the same as above, with the potential advantage that the firewire interface and supporting software are better suited to handle, format, compress, and potentially edit the incoming stream.

fatsteve

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Monday 27th October 2003
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Hmm, capture card sounds easiest now you mention it!!. A trip to MoronWorld will be required tonight. Prices for a capture card?

IIRC the Sky+ box has component out anyway so the quality won't be that bad.

Cheers

Steve

FourWheelDrift

88,722 posts

286 months

Monday 27th October 2003
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fatsteve said:
Prices for a capture card?


A lot of people go for the Pinnacle DC10 card as it comes with Pinnacle Studio editing software - about £90 all in I think. Most cards should come with some software though.

meeja

8,289 posts

250 months

Monday 27th October 2003
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fatsteve said:
Prices for a capture card?


That opens a HUGE can of worms!

They start very cheaply, and go up to stupid values.

Make sure your capture card supports 720x576 at 25 frames per second. (Normal TV quality)

More importantly, make sure your PC spec is high enough to cope with high quality video capture.

fatsteve

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Monday 27th October 2003
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meeja said:

fatsteve said:
Prices for a capture card?



That opens a HUGE can of worms!

They start very cheaply, and go up to stupid values.

Make sure your capture card supports 720x576 at 25 frames per second. (Normal TV quality)

More importantly, make sure your PC spec is high enough to cope with high quality video capture.


Cheers, will look into it.

Steve

loaf

850 posts

263 months

Tuesday 28th October 2003
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Hauppauge (www.hauppauge.co.uk) do a few digital TV bits and bobs for PCs, including a nifty USB decoder box - essentially a Freeview box for your PC/laptop. You can record straight to your HDD from this...but it ain't much use if you want to record/playback non-free-to-air channels.

unity1

271 posts

254 months

Wednesday 29th October 2003
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loaf said:
Hauppauge (www.hauppauge.co.uk) do a few digital TV bits and bobs for PCs, including a nifty USB decoder box - essentially a Freeview box for your PC/laptop. You can record straight to your HDD from this...but it ain't much use if you want to record/playback non-free-to-air channels.


I have a the DEC2000 which allows freewive to be saved to disk via USB. Also have an ATI AIW 8500 in lounge which connect to SVID out of SKY+. TBH the DEC 2000 gives better images and smaller filesize. Streams at 6Mbit max I believe. Was useful to capture the 'first' three Starwars films when on ITV.