Passat 4Motion - Any good?

Passat 4Motion - Any good?

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BillyWhiz

Original Poster:

244 posts

220 months

Tuesday 10th February 2009
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Hi,

Has anyone got any experience of these? Is the four wheel drive permanent like most audi quattros? does it work well? My A8 is fantastic in the snow.

I need a reliable cheap four wheel drive car that the kids can trash. I spend all my spare car cash on my 550M

thanks

cuprabob

14,657 posts

215 months

Tuesday 10th February 2009
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Sorry I don't have any experience of them but I think the latest Passat has a transverse engine layout which means it uses the Haldex configuration of 4WD ie. not permanent.

VAG only uses the Torsen based 4wd system with in-line engine configuration

BillyWhiz

Original Poster:

244 posts

220 months

Tuesday 10th February 2009
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Thanks cuprabob.

Does anyone know if that system is any good. I've heard that on some cars where it is used you can start sliding before the 4WD system kicks in, which doesn't sound too good.

GrahamC230K

384 posts

245 months

Tuesday 10th February 2009
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I think the older Passat V6 Syncro models are a torsen diff like a more traditional quattro.

cuprabob

14,657 posts

215 months

Tuesday 10th February 2009
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I've got Haldex on my R32 and it's good but I've never tried a Torsen system as comparison

agent006

12,039 posts

265 months

Tuesday 10th February 2009
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BillyWhiz said:
I've heard that on some cars where it is used you can start sliding before the 4WD system kicks in, which doesn't sound too good.
Ish. The original Haldex systems relied more on wheel slip, whereas the newer systems use more other factors to work out what needs to go where and as such the newer cars can engage the rear wheel drive much faster.

Fourmotion

1,026 posts

221 months

Tuesday 10th February 2009
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If it's anything like my Golf, for the most part it won't need to kick in. The big heavy engine sat over the fronts wheels gives it all the grip it needs.

However, I live on top of a hill on the North Downs, and last week I couldn't have got home without the four wheel drive. My neighbours had to leave their car at the bottom of the road for three days.

If you pull away at a junction in the wet with quite a few revs then you'll feel the car hunker down (well, with the soft suspension I have anyway) as it transfers drive.

Going round a corner fast will lead to just lead to understeer like any normal FWD car, but you'll pull out of the corner quicker and with more confidence.

To be honest, my car doesn't have the power to really warrant it in the dry, but the R32 and Passat have quite a bit more power. See if you can find one to test.

BillyWhiz

Original Poster:

244 posts

220 months

Wednesday 11th February 2009
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Thanks everyone.

I'm considering going back in the company car scheme, and given that it will be a third car it needs to be as cheap as possible. Anything with 4x4 and SUV next to its name gets you clobbered with high tax and lease costs. Whereas the Passat 4Motion is pretty cheap, so is attractive!

on the other hand i could replace my old A8 with a newer one or maybe an R32. There's a thought.....
cheers


cuprabob

14,657 posts

215 months

Wednesday 11th February 2009
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Some really good pricing on the R32 at the moment thanks to everyone thinking they are solely responsible for global warming.


baz1985

3,598 posts

246 months

Wednesday 11th February 2009
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cuprabob said:
Some really good pricing on the R32 at the moment thanks to everyone thinking they are solely responsible for global warming.
A3 3.2's offer even better value

cuprabob

14,657 posts

215 months

Wednesday 11th February 2009
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If you prefer dull

agent006

12,039 posts

265 months

Wednesday 11th February 2009
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cuprabob said:
If you prefer dull
Surely something duller than a golf would tear a hole through time?

touching cloth

11,706 posts

240 months

Wednesday 11th February 2009
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agent006 said:
cuprabob said:
If you prefer dull
Surely something duller than a golf would tear a hole through time?
rofl

paulqv

3,124 posts

196 months

Thursday 12th February 2009
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Hi
I have had a passat V6 synchro and a W8 both with the same 4 wheel drive system, which is identical to that on the Audi and not the same as the haldex system on the golf R32 etc.
I have driven about 150000 miles on them between these two cars and think the system is excellent. great wet weather grip and traction for any acceleration these cars have. i changed the dampers on the V6 as they were too soft but they are excellent on the W8 which actually rides better and handles much nicer. Not driven the Diesels which are more common with the 4wd option.
In short i would wholeheartedley recomend it!
Paul