Planning permission

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Urban_Ninja

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Sunday 15th March 2009
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Does anyone know what is regarded to need planning permission?

I'm thinking of building a small brick, basically shed type thing in my front garden to put my motorbike in, nothing too big, a bit larger than a motorbike.

as it would be classed as a permanant structure, would it need planning permission as its that small?

Slagathore

5,821 posts

193 months

Sunday 15th March 2009
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Will it be attached to you actual house? If it is then you will need planning, I think.

If it is detached, then I'm not sure! I would have probably thought so, though!


NiceCupOfTea

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Urban_Ninja

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Monday 16th March 2009
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no it will not be attached to the house, will be stand alone.

AJS-

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237 months

Monday 16th March 2009
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Quite a lot depends on your neighbours and your council. Someone I knew built a huge brick garage with no PP at all, and the council turned a blind eye. On the other hand, we've all heard the horror stories of people being made to pull their house down because they painted their window frames the wrong shade of white.

Berserker LM

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184 months

Monday 16th March 2009
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You will get away with a shed-type structure, classified as garden shed. Brick structure probably a different matter as they'll sure as hell want to snare some "building regs" profit from you, and when I last went into this it was £500 for a site visit for the foundations... If it's just for the bike, go for timber, mate!

jules_s

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234 months

Monday 16th March 2009
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Berserker LM said:
You will get away with a shed-type structure, classified as garden shed. Brick structure probably a different matter as they'll sure as hell want to snare some "building regs" profit from you, and when I last went into this it was £500 for a site visit for the foundations... If it's just for the bike, go for timber, mate!
Back garden perhaps.....front garden onto a highway you will need planning

Urban_Ninja

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Monday 16th March 2009
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cant do back garden because I would have to drive the bike through the house.

as for making it wood. I was thinking about that, but then thought against it, as It can be easy broken into.

might have to ring up the counsil and find out all the details tomorrow.

Berserker LM

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Monday 16th March 2009
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Urban_Ninja said:
cant do back garden because I would have to drive the bike through the house.

as for making it wood. I was thinking about that, but then thought against it, as It can be easy broken into.

might have to ring up the counsil and find out all the details tomorrow.
Ring and ask about putting a shed up. Should be a simple yes/no answer. Don't mention bricks at this stage- they'll just tell you to submit a planning app at £200+. If they say no to a timber shed, they're 99.9% certain to chuck out anything else. If they turn you down though, ask why - might be as simple as "no sheds in front of houses". Then you can ask the obvious. Worth a shot. Good luck, councillers are fickle creatures at the best of times, and they're desperate to claw money at the mo.

Urban_Ninja

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hmmm, perhaps, might just have to make it a hefty wood one.

Slagathore

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Monday 16th March 2009
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It wouldn't have to be wooden?

You could look at some other materials! Though, I doubt many alternative materials will be as easy on the eye as wood. Which could cause a problem with the neighbours.


Berserker LM

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Monday 16th March 2009
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Urban_Ninja said:
hmmm, perhaps, might just have to make it a hefty wood one.
And if they really get up your nose, stick it on (removable) castors. Mobile. Can't stop you then.

Councillers.... I hate them!

Urban_Ninja

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Monday 16th March 2009
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lol, but then someone could just put the castors on it, then wheel it off frown

good idea though

Berserker LM

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Urban_Ninja said:
lol, but then someone could just put the castors on it, then wheel it off frown

good idea though
Depends if you have a protective Rottie in residence I guess... Sorry, get kind of blase' about that one! Would be a major prob, but I did state "Removable", and I meant "on paper...."! This loop works for people who want to put shelters in fields for their horses... In reality, the shelters don't move! CAN be moved however, if council get arssey... Good luck!

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Jasandjules

69,978 posts

230 months

Monday 16th March 2009
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Just phone the planning department and speak to a planning officer. It's amazing how helpful they can be.

darronwall

1,730 posts

197 months

Monday 16th March 2009
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can you not buy a custom made metal one?

lunarscope

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243 months

Monday 16th March 2009
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Why not build a brick one then clad it with wood ?

GreenDog

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Monday 16th March 2009
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lunarscope said:
Why not build a brick one then clad it with wood ?
I'm liking your thinking ! smile

cazzer

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249 months

Monday 16th March 2009
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darronwall said:
can you not buy a custom made metal one?
Yeah, I was thinking that.
Seen them for sale.
Damned if I can remember where.

deckster

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256 months

Monday 16th March 2009
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Jasandjules said:
Just phone the planning department and speak to a planning officer. It's amazing how helpful they can be.
yes

The obvious answer is always the best one wink

The basic rules are that you need planning UNLESS:

- the structure is more than 5 metres from your house, AND
- it is not between your house and the road, AND
- it is less than 4 metres (pitched roof) or 3 metres (flat root) high

Rule of thumb - shed in back garden = OK, garage on driveway = needs planning.

In any case - talk to your local office and get the real facts!