Girl killed 2 on first drive

Girl killed 2 on first drive

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CarZee

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13,382 posts

266 months

Wednesday 27th February 2002
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Admission that stupidity is not a male preserve..

www.thesun.co.uk/article/0,,2-2002090936,00.html
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Tracey Ehlers, 18, drove off in a pal’s Citroen Saxo after a night out with school friends, it was claimed.

But she had never had a driving lesson or even sat at the wheel of a car before, the court heard.

adeewuff

567 posts

269 months

Wednesday 27th February 2002
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What a stupid b***h!!

hertsbiker

6,300 posts

270 months

Wednesday 27th February 2002
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yeah, and if not for *that* crash, provided she didn't exceed the *speed limit*, she could have driven round for a lot longer...

currymonster

3,925 posts

268 months

Wednesday 27th February 2002
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Another case of 'stupidity kills'. Still, extra cameras should help. not.

CarZee

Original Poster:

13,382 posts

266 months

Wednesday 27th February 2002
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I've re-read this but can see no hint at why she did it.. drink/drugs? I'd have thought so..

filmidget

682 posts

281 months

Wednesday 27th February 2002
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Not drink or drugs as far as I know.

Rather a (tragic) combination of long straight narrow country lane, followed by a deceptively tricky bend, and two inconvenientely placed very large trees.

Not the first nasty accident at the point I am told by the son of the landowner. (mainly due to the trees I guess - they always win)

Just to expand on the story published in the Sun, the local paper reports that the parents of the girls killed are of the opinion that the driver has been punished enough, and are not in favour of a custodial sentence.

I don't know if I would feel the same way, but then its easy to judge, and I would think most have us did things when we were young (and foolish) that could have ended as badly...

Cheers, Fil

CarZee

Original Poster:

13,382 posts

266 months

Wednesday 27th February 2002
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Fil

Maybe you missed my point (or maybe I didn't make it very well)...

what's bugging me is what made her take the car out in the first place? No clue, never driven before and people in the car.. doesn't add up without intoxicants.. unless she's part of a joyriding clique or something.. I don't get it..

And the parents of those killed must be a lot more philosophical than most - respect is due.

filmidget

682 posts

281 months

Wednesday 27th February 2002
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Carzee - I see what you mean...

I wonder if it was just one of those things that seemed like a good idea at the time (I dare you/good laugh/who can it hurt/etc), that went horribly wrong.

My facts may be totally wrong but it is a rural area (although close to Nottingham) and I think one (or more) of the families is into farming/agricultural machinery, so she may have driven vehicles before?.

I get the impression the girls were of 'good character'.

I should point out that although my fiancee works with some of their mates, and future FinL vagely knows the family, most of the above is conjecture.

Cheers, Fil

CarZee

Original Poster:

13,382 posts

266 months

Wednesday 27th February 2002
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well, I would say 'the truth will out', but it's more like 'media bullshit will out and hack everyone off'

McNab

1,627 posts

273 months

Thursday 28th February 2002
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The awful thing about this is the devastating effect on all the parents, because it was so shatteringly needless.

And think of the future. Can that girl keep her sanity in the face of the remorse she will feel as she grows older?

nubbin

6,809 posts

277 months

Thursday 28th February 2002
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There's been a very similar incident on my patch recently, 3 lads, one girl, Saxo, on their way home from the pub (Hmmmm....). Girl has no licence, drove her friends car, lads all not using seatbelts. She lost control on a downhill sweep with a bit of a bend, and hit a tree and stone wall, at which point the car must have been four feet off the floor, as only the top of the wall was damaged. One death, 2 very seriously injured, and the girl? - cuts and bruises only. Speed cameras? Traffic police? Waste of public money!

hertsbiker

6,300 posts

270 months

Thursday 28th February 2002
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Just goes to prove that "stupidity kills", and should be the buzz word, and not 'speed kills'.

As McNab points out - it will be a terrible thing to live with. I know this feeling to a tiny degree, after my mate crashed into a field - I felt guilty that he lost control trying to keep up with me.

Imagine how bad you'd feel if it was you behind the wheel? yeah, that IS punishment enough.

rgds, Carl

Nottinghamgirl

1 posts

105 months

Saturday 6th June 2015
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People on here make me sick! You are quick to judge, not knowing the facts about what happened on the awful night. I know and I know that the girl driving was one of 3 that were driving that night, which it clearly says in the police statements! You sad people that make comments like 'you stupid bh' are worthless trolls that do not have a clue! The parents of the girls that were tragically taken from them are clearly able to forgive, so what right does that give the rest of you scum to judge! None of you were involved in this tragedy and do not have to witness what this girl goes through everyday of what's left of her life, just think about that in future! Maybe you should concentrate on your own life's them hiding behind a computer screen 😔

Butter Face

30,191 posts

159 months

Saturday 6th June 2015
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Wow, a 13 year bump. Awesome.

Laurel Green

30,770 posts

231 months

Sunday 7th June 2015
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Blimey!

SpikeBmth

1,295 posts

154 months

Sunday 7th June 2015
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Seems a google search on the girls name may have found this thread, hence the one post from someone that knows her (I'd guess)

stuttgartmetal

8,108 posts

215 months

Sunday 7th June 2015
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Read the anger in her post.
Thirteen years later Shes still affected

Tragedy.
Absolute tragedy.

Life's hard.

cat with a hat

1,484 posts

117 months

Sunday 7th June 2015
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Sad reminder of how peoples lives can be turned upside down.

shantybeater

1,192 posts

168 months

Tuesday 9th June 2015
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stuttgartmetal said:
Read the anger in her post.
Thirteen years later Shes still affected

Tragedy.
Absolute tragedy.

Life's hard.
Agreed, condolences to all involved.

tromsharry

7 posts

104 months

Tuesday 7th July 2015
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That,s not good . .................