It Might Get Loud
Discussion
Looking forward to this:
http://www.apple.com/trailers/sony/itmightgetloud/
I reckon The Edge could do with a bit more gear though
http://www.apple.com/trailers/sony/itmightgetloud/
I reckon The Edge could do with a bit more gear though
I have....and I stand by my statement. Edge might be a good musician but take away the delay and see what you're left with.
Is it a coincidence that the tempo of most U2 songs matches the maximum setting on his delay unit?
Saying that Rattle and Hum is a great film.
And don't get me started on Jack White
Is it a coincidence that the tempo of most U2 songs matches the maximum setting on his delay unit?
Saying that Rattle and Hum is a great film.
And don't get me started on Jack White
By the way I wouldn't call The Edge or Jack White virtuosos either - nor Jimmy Page. He was OK.
And you haven't heard the out-takes I have, because only about a dozen people in the world have!
As I say... he was OK. I Loved his playing when I was a kid.
However virtuoso is in a different league. Check out the definition "an individual who possesses outstanding technical ability"
Nobody could put any of the three mentioned into that category. If they are then there are tens of thousands of virtuoso's out there.
Segovia is a virtuoso!
IMHO of course
And you haven't heard the out-takes I have, because only about a dozen people in the world have!
As I say... he was OK. I Loved his playing when I was a kid.
However virtuoso is in a different league. Check out the definition "an individual who possesses outstanding technical ability"
Nobody could put any of the three mentioned into that category. If they are then there are tens of thousands of virtuoso's out there.
Segovia is a virtuoso!
IMHO of course
Edited by GetCarter on Wednesday 17th June 14:10
Although I'm not at all a fan, The Edge is justified in this context I think, he's just a different kind of virtuoso. Saying "take away the delay and see what's left" makes no sense to me, that's like saying take away the strings, see how clever these guys are then 
Jack White, on the other hand - I have no opinion of him as a player, but I think The White Stripes is overhyped rubbish, and he has a face I'd never tire of slapping.
Jack White, on the other hand - I have no opinion of him as a player, but I think The White Stripes is overhyped rubbish, and he has a face I'd never tire of slapping.
GetCarter said:
And you haven't heard the out-takes I have, because only about a dozen people in the world have!
Well that put me in my place...I have no idea what out-takes you are refering to. You initially mentioned out-takes and I answered that I have heard out-takes reportedly from JP. I believe they were from Rockfield.
As I haven't spoken to Robert Plant for a while I can't be 100% sure of their origin.
However virtuoso is in a different league. Check out the definition "an individual who possesses outstanding technical ability"
I know the definition of virtuoso.
Nobody could put any of the three mentioned into that category. If they are then there are tens of thousands of virtuoso's out there.
Segovia is a virtuoso!
Yes he was....even more so when you saw his sausage shaped fingers. I saw him many years ago in Bristol and he was flawless
IMHO of course
Well that put me in my place...I have no idea what out-takes you are refering to. You initially mentioned out-takes and I answered that I have heard out-takes reportedly from JP. I believe they were from Rockfield.
As I haven't spoken to Robert Plant for a while I can't be 100% sure of their origin.
However virtuoso is in a different league. Check out the definition "an individual who possesses outstanding technical ability"
I know the definition of virtuoso.
Nobody could put any of the three mentioned into that category. If they are then there are tens of thousands of virtuoso's out there.
Segovia is a virtuoso!
Yes he was....even more so when you saw his sausage shaped fingers. I saw him many years ago in Bristol and he was flawless
IMHO of course
Edited by GetCarter on Wednesday 17th June 14:10
nonplussed said:
Although I'm not at all a fan, The Edge is justified in this context I think, he's just a different kind of virtuoso. Saying "take away the delay and see what's left" makes no sense to me, that's like saying take away the strings, see how clever these guys are then
Not really. He's a good musician. I just don't think he's a very good guitarist. SaliMali said:
nonplussed said:
Although I'm not at all a fan, The Edge is justified in this context I think, he's just a different kind of virtuoso. Saying "take away the delay and see what's left" makes no sense to me, that's like saying take away the strings, see how clever these guys are then
Not really. He's a good musician. I just don't think he's a very good guitarist. 
Listen to you lot.No I wouldn't have used the term 'virtuoso' either.
Nevertheless, between them they've come up with some bloody good (legendary in the case of JP and Edge) riffs, have they not?
And each can claim an instantly recognisable signature sound.
And they're all great songwriters and musicians.
Which makes the subject of the film interesting. (to me, anyway)
I have a different take on the article.
None are virtuosos of the guitar, not even JP.
Simon Dinnigan, yes. Martin Taylor, yes. Vai, yes. Eric Johnson, probably yes. But the article / feature seeks to explore the players "signature" sound. The Edge certainly has that, but it's hardly rocket science how he does it. Just earn millions and buy the best delay effect on the market, add some harmonics and a little chorus and Bob's your uncle. JP - for me - has never had a signature sound, using LP's, Teles, those Masonite guitars, SG double-necks, Theramin effects, violin bows etc etc etc. But he has a signature playing style, not necessarily virtuosic. Frenetic, sometimes messy, and always combining minor and major blues scales with "outside" notes.
Jack White does not register on my radar.
Now, what I'd really like to know is how Jeff Beck comes up with his guitar ideas. A classic example being his solo on "Manic Depression" with Seal
None are virtuosos of the guitar, not even JP.
Simon Dinnigan, yes. Martin Taylor, yes. Vai, yes. Eric Johnson, probably yes. But the article / feature seeks to explore the players "signature" sound. The Edge certainly has that, but it's hardly rocket science how he does it. Just earn millions and buy the best delay effect on the market, add some harmonics and a little chorus and Bob's your uncle. JP - for me - has never had a signature sound, using LP's, Teles, those Masonite guitars, SG double-necks, Theramin effects, violin bows etc etc etc. But he has a signature playing style, not necessarily virtuosic. Frenetic, sometimes messy, and always combining minor and major blues scales with "outside" notes.
Jack White does not register on my radar.
Now, what I'd really like to know is how Jeff Beck comes up with his guitar ideas. A classic example being his solo on "Manic Depression" with Seal
SaliMali said:
Jeff Beck-good call. All those sounds just with fingers and a tone knob. Magic.
eg:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=msPiKYuuRiQ
kiteless said:
The Edge certainly has that, but it's hardly rocket science how he does it. Just earn millions and buy the best delay effect on the market, add some harmonics and a little chorus and Bob's your uncle.
How did he earn those millions, eh? And who had that sound before him?
Evil Jack said:
How did he earn those millions, eh?
And who had that sound before him?
Fair point.And who had that sound before him?
But his signature sound comprises nothing more complex than a judicious use of delay and harmonics. Having said that, it was a great exploitation of his limited ability. Not many people had heard the effect in such a way when U2 first came on the scene. Similarly to Van Halen; tapped guitar lines were pretty rare in 1978.
Evil Jack said:
kiteless said:
The Edge certainly has that, but it's hardly rocket science how he does it. Just earn millions and buy the best delay effect on the market, add some harmonics and a little chorus and Bob's your uncle.
How did he earn those millions, eh? And who had that sound before him?
http://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&a...
but that would imply he was untalented, I don't think success in the music industry directly equates to skill or talent, otherwise the Spice Girls would have to be up there too
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