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Aidayboy

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391 posts

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Thought we could start a little topic about what can only be described as cheating by Scotlands Law enforcemaent Traffic Division, as a regular traveller all over Scotland would be handy to know what they are driving, the area and if possible the reg nos. so we can be aware of them!!

A.

kennym999

138 posts

73 months

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Or just behave and no need to worry what and where the cop cars are.

paulqv

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kennym999 said:
Or just behave and no need to worry what and where the cop cars are.
Thats true! But what gaurentees do you have that the cops will behave! lol

Has anyone ever wondered why we need unmarked traffic cars at all? Surley their only purpose is to catch speeders, rather than use marked cars which are a high visability deterrant and reminder to us all about the importance of road traffic safety! Personaly I think they are unsafe in that they confuse and upset people, no doubt justifying the OP here. Policing should be open, visable fair and just and to ensure saftey for society. Anything that may detract from that is to be accepted only exceptionaly.

Rant over!

Paul

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Aidayboy

Original Poster:

391 posts

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Here was me thinking it was just a way of guys who are into their cars being able to drive, at speeds of their choosing without repircusuion in cars they could never afford at the tax payers expense!! I've never understood why the cars they drive need to be so expensive, eg. new BMW X5?? Surely there could have been a more cost effective option than that!
Also the fact that they had to display and highlight speed cameras but can stil have unmarked cars, surely the rule should apply to both.

I have no objection to them convicting some little ned kicking the arse out his souped up everything but the brakes Corsa but someone in a well maintanined for instance CLK travelling down from Aberdeen getting convicted of 80 in a 70 on a clear day in the middle of nowhere is purely a cash genreating exercise!

Rant just beginning!

ninja-lewis

2,266 posts

75 months

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Aidayboy said:
Here was me thinking it was just a way of guys who are into their cars being able to drive, at speeds of their choosing without repircusuion in cars they could never afford at the tax payers expense!! I've never understood why the cars they drive need to be so expensive, eg. new BMW X5?? Surely there could have been a more cost effective option than that!
Also the fact that they had to display and highlight speed cameras but can stil have unmarked cars, surely the rule should apply to both.

I have no objection to them convicting some little ned kicking the arse out his souped up everything but the brakes Corsa but someone in a well maintanined for instance CLK travelling down from Aberdeen getting convicted of 80 in a 70 on a clear day in the middle of nowhere is purely a cash genreating exercise!

Rant just beginning!
If you'd done a search before posting, you would've seen that this topic has been covered many times before on PH. As for the 'expensive' BMWs, how do you they are expensive - have you seen how much the force paid for them? It may surprise you but they are often the most cost effective option. Traffic police require need high performance vehicles (not just speed but also storage and towing capability), preferably comfortable since they spend all day in them, and perhaps with a decent resale value afterwards. On top of that, you'll find that BMW and Mercedes often offer substantial fleet discounts to the police, making them no more expensive than other non-premium brands.
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AMD87

1,676 posts

87 months

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Aidayboy said:
I've never understood why the cars they drive need to be so expensive, eg. new BMW X5?? Surely there could have been a more cost effective option than that!
Police don't pay full retail price for the cars,plus and it was brought up on traffic cops a while ago,what other car do you know of that can carry as much kit as an X5 yet still be practical and suitable for the job,certainly not a focus estate thats for sure.

Aidayboy said:
I have no objection to them convicting some little ned kicking the arse out his souped up everything but the brakes Corsa
Nothing wrong with that i know someone who has a 300+ bhp corsa turbo that still has drums on the rear,not much can keep up with at knockhill even the evo 5 struggles.

Aidayboy

Original Poster:

391 posts

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ninja-lewis said:
Aidayboy said:
Here was me thinking it was just a way of guys who are into their cars being able to drive, at speeds of their choosing without repircusuion in cars they could never afford at the tax payers expense!! I've never understood why the cars they drive need to be so expensive, eg. new BMW X5?? Surely there could have been a more cost effective option than that!
Also the fact that they had to display and highlight speed cameras but can stil have unmarked cars, surely the rule should apply to both.

I have no objection to them convicting some little ned kicking the arse out his souped up everything but the brakes Corsa but someone in a well maintanined for instance CLK travelling down from Aberdeen getting convicted of 80 in a 70 on a clear day in the middle of nowhere is purely a cash genreating exercise!

Rant just beginning!
If you'd done a search before posting, you would've seen that this topic has been covered many times before on PH. As for the 'expensive' BMWs, how do you they are expensive - have you seen how much the force paid for them? It may surprise you but they are often the most cost effective option. Traffic police require need high performance vehicles (not just speed but also storage and towing capability), preferably comfortable since they spend all day in them, and perhaps with a decent resale value afterwards. On top of that, you'll find that BMW and Mercedes often offer substantial fleet discounts to the police, making them no more expensive than other non-premium brands.
Ninja -?I appreciate that the poloice will not pay full RRP on these vehicles but I'm sure less expensive manufacturers like Mitsubishi & Toyota will offer just as good if not beter discounts as BMW or Mercedes and as i have found in the past owning such cars as Mercedes & BMW's and after speaking with Taffic Officer friends that these cars are no more and ofetn less reliable than thir counterparts. I spoke with him not that long ago about 2 unmarked C Class C320's that they had, said you couldnt drive 20 miles in them without them breaking down and therefore they never used them, complete waste on resource and budgets.

And to behonest think you were missing the point of the form, all it was asking was a heads up on what unarked cars they are currently using in Scotland, apologies if that was diffiult to understand.

Monaro5.7

7,060 posts

64 months

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Guys there is an unmarked Audi A6 dark blue and its a 3ltr diesel which i have seen on the A1 and A720 in Edinburgh. watch out for that 1 smile

Rockatansky

1,320 posts

72 months

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Unmarked blue 3 series BMW estate with roofbox A1/East Lothian.

LHDisbest

16,795 posts

72 months

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Rockatansky said:
Unmarked blue 3 series BMW estate with roofbox A1/East Lothian.
yes

We've had a 'chat' irked

Mr Trophy

5,392 posts

88 months

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LHDisbest said:
Rockatansky said:
Unmarked blue 3 series BMW estate with roofbox A1/East Lothian.
yes

We've had a 'chat' irked
Has someone been a naughty boy?

sherman

6,109 posts

100 months

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S2red

1,950 posts

76 months

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Often thought knowing about unmarked cars are like radar gun warnings once you spot them or are warned about them it's too late to do anythingsmile

G20RG B

2,535 posts

116 months

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ninja-lewis said:
Aidayboy said:
Here was me thinking it was just a way of guys who are into their cars being able to drive, at speeds of their choosing without repircusuion in cars they could never afford at the tax payers expense!! I've never understood why the cars they drive need to be so expensive, eg. new BMW X5?? Surely there could have been a more cost effective option than that!
Also the fact that they had to display and highlight speed cameras but can stil have unmarked cars, surely the rule should apply to both.

I have no objection to them convicting some little ned kicking the arse out his souped up everything but the brakes Corsa but someone in a well maintanined for instance CLK travelling down from Aberdeen getting convicted of 80 in a 70 on a clear day in the middle of nowhere is purely a cash genreating exercise!

Rant just beginning!
If you'd done a search before posting, you would've seen that this topic has been covered many times before on PH. As for the 'expensive' BMWs, how do you they are expensive - have you seen how much the force paid for them? It may surprise you but they are often the most cost effective option. Traffic police require need high performance vehicles (not just speed but also storage and towing capability), preferably comfortable since they spend all day in them, and perhaps with a decent resale value afterwards. On top of that, you'll find that BMW and Mercedes often offer substantial fleet discounts to the police, making them no more expensive than other non-premium brands.
Christ, who rattled your cage...

monthefish

17,859 posts

116 months

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In the Argyll area...

Dark Blue BMW 3 Series (E90) saloon reg'n SF57 OBX
Dark Blue Passat, reg'n TN07 --

(taken from my posts on this thread)

Think there's also an E60 5 Series about...

sonarcop





Edited by monthefish on Thursday 2nd July 17:52

monthefish

17,859 posts

116 months

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more on this thread too.

smile

KJR

723 posts

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Unmarked black Mercedes 4 door saloon Reg starts SK 07 had pulled someone as the M9/Newbridge slip joins the M8 west bound 18:00 tonight. This was about 50 yards after a marked car had pulled someone else.

All the flashing lights brought the rubberneckers out in force causing an unnecessary queue mad.

erdnase

1,963 posts

86 months

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kennym999 said:
Or just behave and no need to worry what and where the cop cars are.
Let's call that one Plan B, for the moment smokin

monthefish

17,859 posts

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erdnase said:
kennym999 said:
Or just behave and no need to worry what and where the cop cars are.
Let's call that one Plan B, for the moment smokin
hehe

yes

Monaro5.7

7,060 posts

64 months

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The company i work for supply number plates to lothian and borders police and the plates, and when u put the reg into our system they always come up on the system as UNKNOWN.
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