ING and MM pull Renault F1 sponsorship
ING and MM pull Renault F1 sponsorship
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ajprice

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33,334 posts

225 months

Thursday 24th September 2009
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http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/motorsport/formula...

ING weren't going to renew at the end of the year anyway, but now they have pulled out with immediate effect from Renault, but they're keeping their track side sponsorship banners. MM are also pulling out. So the renaults might be looking a bit bare this weekend.

bigburd

2,670 posts

229 months

Thursday 24th September 2009
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Maybe the logo of one of the Companies I contract to will get some increased coverage...but hey they are just another technical partner!

piers1

835 posts

223 months

Thursday 24th September 2009
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Interesting to see where this goes....

Project 644

37,069 posts

217 months

Thursday 24th September 2009
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What do you reckon, rape tape covering up the logos on the team shirts and the drivers overalls?

Those cars are going to be bright white! hehe

Murph7355

41,961 posts

285 months

Thursday 24th September 2009
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Project 644 said:
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Those cars are going to be bright white! hehe
Yellow, white and black perhaps...

zac510

5,546 posts

235 months

Thursday 24th September 2009
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It seems like a convenient way to save some cash. Are these companies really so conservative that they won't relish the extra attention upon Renault this weekend?

belleair302

7,008 posts

236 months

Thursday 24th September 2009
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I would have thought that the extra exposure was well worth the 'grief' especially as Flav is not there and the whole matter is closed. Isabel Connor at ING must be going mad.....and will soon be looking for a new job! In F1 sponsorship any media coverage so long as the driver is not hurt is worth every EURO possible....scandal or no scandal.

Steve126

302 posts

212 months

Thursday 24th September 2009
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They will get plenty of coverage for pulling out, plus it makes them look honest and respectable.

funster

174 posts

204 months

Thursday 24th September 2009
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I would imagine that there are some v good sports lawyers with ING right now trying to get a substantial amount of money recovered for them from the Renault team. This is doubly perfect, lots of coverage and a refund. An immediate withdrawal would be needed to ensure a successful claim. MM have already stated that their contract included "Renault must comply with all the FIA rules and regulations at all times as a competitor in the world championship".


dpbird90

5,535 posts

219 months

Friday 25th September 2009
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Murph7355 said:
Project 644 said:
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Those cars are going to be bright white! hehe
Yellow, white and black perhaps...


Hopefully like this?


Would be amazing to see, along with Williams Renault reverting to the blue/yellow/white from Canon/Labatts/Camel etc, Lotus returning in 2010, hopefully with JPS colours, and if Mercedes pull out of their McLaren partenrship, which I know is just a wild stab in the dark at the minute, who knows, red & white McLarens?

Back to the good ol' days...

pits

6,704 posts

219 months

Friday 25th September 2009
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dpbird90 said:
Murph7355 said:
Project 644 said:
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Those cars are going to be bright white! hehe
Yellow, white and black perhaps...


Hopefully like this?


Would be amazing to see, along with Williams Renault reverting to the blue/yellow/white from Canon/Labatts/Camel etc, Lotus returning in 2010, hopefully with JPS colours, and if Mercedes pull out of their McLaren partenrship, which I know is just a wild stab in the dark at the minute, who knows, red & white McLarens?

Back to the good ol' days...
Apart from the ban on smoking advertising, and my memory being fuzzy but wasnt the Marlboro red and white wasnt that Honda? Googling reveals Mclaren Honda, I forgotten how long ago that was, with the man himself at wheel

It would be nice to see the Lotus, even though it isnt a Lotus, just the name being used, in JPS colours, yes they were the red bull of the 80s but black and gold was so simple it was brilliant, hmmmmm wonder if you could call it
Team Lotus in John players special F1 car





Redlake27

2,255 posts

273 months

Friday 25th September 2009
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That's a shame. I'd understood the team were on the verge of a deal with ScrewFix to put their brand between the Renault and ING logos on the air cover.

xspencex

1,534 posts

265 months

Friday 25th September 2009
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If Renault do stay on next year it's hard to see how they will do it with Sponsors, the effect of association is strong and those two sponsors pulling early is not good. . .they were leaving anyway but the point has been made. . .the team has been soiled, why spend your millions there when other 'clean' teams are available.

I expect Renault will soon realise the 2010 bidged is going to be a lot smaller, will Renault plug the gap?

Project 644

37,069 posts

217 months

Friday 25th September 2009
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funster said:
I would imagine that there are some v good sports lawyers with ING right now trying to get a substantial amount of money recovered for them from the Renault team. This is doubly perfect, lots of coverage and a refund. An immediate withdrawal would be needed to ensure a successful claim. MM have already stated that their contract included "Renault must comply with all the FIA rules and regulations at all times as a competitor in the world championship".
Part of it was the fact that Renault (read Flav, pat, PK and X) lied about the accident. MM is an insurance company, they didn't feel they could be associated with a team that does this.

XJSJohn

16,151 posts

248 months

Friday 25th September 2009
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Brawn has more sponsorship on the car than Renault now!!!

Its actually good to see the Cannon Logo's on the side of an F1 car again (even if it is just Cannon Singapore specifically for this race!!)


edited for the hell of it!


Edited by XJSJohn on Friday 25th September 08:10

Scuffers

20,887 posts

303 months

Friday 25th September 2009
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I suspect this is why Flav and Pat were dumped so quickly by Renault in an attempt at heading off this sponsors departing, clearly that's not worked.

I can't see Renault carrying on next year without some major sponsorship?

and where does that leave the engine market?

custardtart

1,746 posts

282 months

Friday 25th September 2009
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XJSJohn said:
Its actually good to see the Cannon Logo's on the side of an F1 car again (even if it is just Cannon Singapore specifically for this race!!)
I guess I'd better be pedantic and point out it's Canon not Cannon - seeing as I work for them tongue out

Funny that they wouldn't sponsor my Westfield this year, must've been saving up for F1biggrin

garycat

5,382 posts

239 months

Friday 25th September 2009
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Project 644 said:
Part of it was the fact that Renault (read Flav, pat, PK and X) lied about the accident. MM is an insurance company, they didn't feel they could be associated with a team that does this.
I wonder if they paid out for PKs accident?

Actually that raises a serious point... I know you have to have race insurance at club level but do F1 cars have insurance and would Renault have claimed? I guess its arranged through FOTA.


Edited by garycat on Friday 25th September 08:43

Eric Mc

125,609 posts

294 months

Friday 25th September 2009
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Sorry, without sponsorship, these teams should l;ook like this -

Lotus



McLaren like this



Renault like this


XJSJohn

16,151 posts

248 months

Friday 25th September 2009
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I'll tell you guys all about it on Monday ..... just been given a pair of weekend tickets in the ING VIP Box ....

Guess i won't be getting any garage walks though given that they hdon't actually have a car to sponsor!!!

Ohh and BalhamLotus if you read this, was given them just as I got back from swapping with you!!

However those tickets have been passed onto a good cause as have my Sunday tickets to others that had just arrived in town and not been able to get tickets!!!

me happy????

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