Susan Boyle's version of Wild Horses

Susan Boyle's version of Wild Horses

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nonplussed

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230 months

Thursday 15th October 2009
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...is, predictably enough, toe-curlingly awful. Cowellised to within in inch of its life, reducing the scruffy grandeur of the original to showy, faux-emotional, "impressive" warbling. With strings. And more warbling.

I'm sure people will love it. And hey, Jagger and Richards are laughing all the way to the bank.

Don1

15,951 posts

209 months

Thursday 15th October 2009
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I prefer this remix from her.... wink

lockhart flawse

2,041 posts

236 months

Thursday 15th October 2009
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Totally disagree - I think it's the best version of this song that I have ever heard and I expect many other people will as well. In fact I think her version will make it a standard like Hallelujah has become in the last couple of years after being ignored for years until X-factor ( i think) made it popular.

She looks odd but the tone and quality of her voice is truly exceptional although there are occasional technical problems that will get sorted out by a singing coach over the next few months. I think she will be around long term and will eat your hat if she's disappeared frrom view in a couple of years.

Not only can she sing but people like her story as well but that wouldn't be enough in itself if the songs weren't up to scratch.

No-one is more surprised than me that I think this.....

L.F.

ratbane

1,374 posts

217 months

Thursday 15th October 2009
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lockhart flawse said:
Totally disagree - I think it's the best version of this song that I have ever heard and I expect many other people will as well. In fact I think her version will make it a standard like Hallelujah has become in the last couple of years after being ignored for years until X-factor ( i think) made it popular.

She looks odd but the tone and quality of her voice is truly exceptional although there are occasional technical problems that will get sorted out by a singing coach over the next few months. I think she will be around long term and will eat your hat if she's disappeared frrom view in a couple of years.

Not only can she sing but people like her story as well but that wouldn't be enough in itself if the songs weren't up to scratch.

No-one is more surprised than me that I think this.....

L.F.
Totally agree. I am a non-believer when it comes to Cowell and the X Type Pop Factory garbage is concerned. But this is a quality artist.

Asterix

24,438 posts

229 months

Thursday 15th October 2009
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Haven't heard her version to comment although I do have my preconceptions...

I will say though that her elevating it to becoming 'a standard' is a bit rich. Making it familiar to the saturday night couch potatoes perhaps.

I'd argue it's been a standard for 40 odd years.

The other version I like is by The Sundays.

TEKNOPUG

18,971 posts

206 months

Thursday 15th October 2009
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So the original version, with music and lyrics written by the people who were to play the music and sing the song, to match their own personal style and abilities…….Keith Richards and Mick Jagger of The Rolling Stones, is inferior to the Simon Cowell produced Susan Boyle version……?

Right….yes….of course it is….. silly

Asterix

24,438 posts

229 months

Thursday 15th October 2009
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Ok - listened to it.

Not bad. However, no better than many 'good' singers could do. I don't like the arrangement, trying too hard to tug at the old heart strings, comes across over dramatical.

Please don't think I'm bashing her. I wish her all the best and I hope she lives her dream, but it is a pale imitation of the original. The best this will do is bring the original to the ears of today's generation.

I remember playing my missus the original of Talk Talk's 'It's my life' and she (having only heard the No Doubt version) was completely blown away - so much more meaning, soul and heart.

Hallelujah was mentioned earlier - nothing can touch Buckley's version - that guy had more talent in his little finger than anyone else that ever covered it and it shows - others sing it, he felt it.

'One' by U2 - I'm a huge fan of the version by Mary J Blige but the original still takes the top step of the podium by a million miles - it just has that quality that a cover can never have.

As a reminder - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g69labQKuuU

Dear old Susan would have sung it and walked away - these guys lived it, wrote it, performed it and stood by it.

The Sundays version for reference - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u9lEd5bIbbQ&fea...


Edited by Asterix on Thursday 15th October 18:50

Asterix

24,438 posts

229 months

Thursday 15th October 2009
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I'm going to add another comment - where the young and pretty talent show winners get the new rauchy songs from unknown hidden backroom writers - Kelly Clarkson as an example - Boyle will do the classics. Some she'll do adequately, others she'll destroy.

I'm ex-music industry and really understand how this stuff works - my old band has been covered, sampled and remixed before (won't go into that) and I'm sorry, I'm a huge cynic, and deservedly so.

useyourdellusion

5,648 posts

191 months

Thursday 15th October 2009
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Asterix said:
I'm ex-music industry and really understand how this stuff works - my old band has been covered, sampled and remixed before (won't go into that) and I'm sorry, I'm a huge cynic, and deservedly so.
Now that's interesting!

I wish you'd elaborate more. I'm intrigued!

Asterix

24,438 posts

229 months

Thursday 15th October 2009
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Nah! Been done before, along time ago, on PH.

Best left behind (for me) - even if it is necessary to validate what I've said, I'm happy to not go any further and my comments can be taken for what they are.

Asterix

24,438 posts

229 months

Thursday 15th October 2009
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"her voice is truly exceptional"

Compared to Ella Fitzgerald, Karen Carpenter, even Christina Aguilera?

C'mon!

nonplussed

Original Poster:

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230 months

Thursday 15th October 2009
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TEKNOPUG said:
So the original version, with music and lyrics written by the people who were to play the music and sing the song, to match their own personal style and abilities…….Keith Richards and Mick Jagger of The Rolling Stones, is inferior to the Simon Cowell produced Susan Boyle version……?

Right….yes….of course it is….. silly
Quite. I should perhaps add to my OP that I don't mind Susan Boyle at all, I think she's great. I just think the song is wrong for her, and the arrangement, which I'm sure she had no hand in, sucks majorly. I mean, what will she do next? Highway to Hell?

Edited by nonplussed on Thursday 15th October 21:29

lockhart flawse

2,041 posts

236 months

Thursday 15th October 2009
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Asterix - you should be a jornalist! I didn't say "her voice is truly exceptional" I said "the tone and quality of her voice is truly exceptional" which is quite different.

First time I have seen Ella Fitzgerald and Karen Carpenter bracketed together as well.....bit of an insult to Karen Carpenter I think. :-)

L.F.