GT2

[porkaGT]

Slippydiff said:

That look's not due to spacers, that car's running 048's or 888's, (JFP can confirm which) both of which are which are square shouldered tyres compared with the PS2's.

They're AO48's. However, there are spacers on the rear which were there when I purchased.

[porkaGT]

The same car....but the geo isn't standard.

[consul]

Mine sits a bit lower than standard, Chris set mine up with about 2 degrees on the rear. I like my cars low so that's how I wanted it. Corners beautifully and the turn in is very sharp.

[Slippydiff]

porkaGT said:

They're AO48's. However, there are spacers on the rear which were there when I purchased.

I stand corrected.
So are you the new owner, or yet another PH'er who feels the need to change their username more frequently than their undercrackers ?

[porkaGT]

Slippydiff said:

I stand corrected.
So are you the new owner, or yet another PH'er who feels the need to change their username more frequently than their undercrackers ?

Erm, once every 10years which I thought was quite restrained of me! However, I agree it can be confusing.

Edit...didn't like it, reverted to standard.

Edited by m33ufo on Thursday 22 January 22:47

[m33ufo]

Better?

[Slippydiff]

m33ufo said:

Better?

[DodoRacing]

monthefish said:

...perhaps, but even this looks so much better:

What wheels are those on the HUFIIE? They look awesome.

[Xpuffin]

consul said:

.

Starting to really like the Mk 2 wheels ....gulp!

[m33ufo]

DodoRacing said:

What wheels are those on the HUFIIE? They look awesome.

They're mk.2 wheels. The same that are on the car now but returned to OEM silver.

[Als911]

jfp said:

Als911 said:

smithyithy said:

Als911 said:

Horrible and Clunky................................... Nope, Don't think so.

Edited by Als911 on Wednesday 21st January 22:46

Fantastic colour

Thank You. :-)

Lovely, lovely GT2. Am I right in assuming they are 19's? I'm not trying to take anything away from the car but the rims, in my opinion which means jack st, spoil the car. And I mean that as a compliment because 19's usually work but yours is so nice it just "spoils it".

They are 19s, I love the look of them on the car, but put the standard 18s on the car last August when heading to Oldtimers Event at the Nurburgring. I personally prefer the way it drives on the standard wheels, just doesn't look as good in my eyes.

[jfp]

monthefish said:

...perhaps, but even this looks so much better:

Both Huffies and mine as pictured had wheel spacers front and rear. He's on A048, me PS2. Personally speaking they look better with spacers but the car is compromised. Mine has spacers with the front Enkei rims at 9" not 8.5 due to the inner edge of the rim clouting the spring - a progressive item mounted to a specialist 3 way damper. The change in offset does nothing for the scrub radius, if I could then I'd ditch the spacer. Its probably the same story at the rear....

Herr Slippydiffmeister is correct in that the most influencing "looks" factor is rear camber. Lots of it and the top of the rim sits well inside the arch, not necessary on a road car.

And finally before I get back to work and sell some brakes - don't set your car too low, I know it looks nice but it will ruin it. You need wheel travel for compliance, and you cant have wheel travel in compression if the old girl is sat on the bumpstops. Remember also lowering a GT3 or 2 will lower the roll centre (forget C of G because that's largely irrelevant in this context). The lower the roll centre the softer the car in roll so YOU WILL NEED STIFFER SPRINGS WHICH WILL COMPROMISE TRACTION, COMPLIANCE AND COMFORT ON THE ROAD. You may be able to counteract the softer roll by running your bars at full stiff, again not a great way forward and you still don't have the travel in compression. Race tracks are smooth, roads aint. Look at the spring rate on a 6 Cup car or GT3R, they are (were) huge due to the lower roll centre at race ride height, and of course increased lateral grip due to slick tyres.... The car was designed as a road car at road ride heights and the geometry was optimised thus.

Apologies if all this sounds like its coming from a teacher, its not meant that way and I'm sure there are a plenty that know a damn sight more that I'd be really happy to listen to - I find all this a lot more interesting than discussing alloy wheels.....

[Adam B]

Slippydiff said:

The 996 GT2 is a fabulous looking car, IMHO the 997 GT2 is even nicer

[consul]

jfp said:

monthefish said:

...perhaps, but even this looks so much better:

Both Huffies and mine as pictured had wheel spacers front and rear. He's on A048, me PS2. Personally speaking they look better with spacers but the car is compromised. Mine has spacers with the front Enkei rims at 9" not 8.5 due to the inner edge of the rim clouting the spring - a progressive item mounted to a specialist 3 way damper. The change in offset does nothing for the scrub radius, if I could then I'd ditch the spacer. Its probably the same story at the rear....

Herr Slippydiffmeister is correct in that the most influencing "looks" factor is rear camber. Lots of it and the top of the rim sits well inside the arch, not necessary on a road car.

And finally before I get back to work and sell some brakes - don't set your car too low, I know it looks nice but it will ruin it. You need wheel travel for compliance, and you cant have wheel travel in compression if the old girl is sat on the bumpstops. Remember also lowering a GT3 or 2 will lower the roll centre (forget C of G because that's largely irrelevant in this context). The lower the roll centre the softer the car in roll so YOU WILL NEED STIFFER SPRINGS WHICH WILL COMPROMISE TRACTION, COMPLIANCE AND COMFORT ON THE ROAD. You may be able to counteract the softer roll by running your bars at full stiff, again not a great way forward and you still don't have the travel in compression. Race tracks are smooth, roads aint. Look at the spring rate on a 6 Cup car or GT3R, they are (were) huge due to the lower roll centre at race ride height, and of course increased lateral grip due to slick tyres.... The car was designed as a road car at road ride heights and the geometry was optimised thus.

Apologies if all this sounds like its coming from a teacher, its not meant that way and I'm sure there are a plenty that know a damn sight more that I'd be really happy to listen to - I find all this a lot more interesting than discussing alloy wheels.....

Mines low but not "That" low were I have noticed a difference in comfort. When I rebuilt all the suspension and change all the springs etc and control arms, I wanted my car on the floor but Chris advised
me to lower it a bit but still keep things sensible in terms of being street able otherwise I would hate it.

[consul]

[wycoller]

porkaGT said:

Slippydiff said:

I stand corrected.
So are you the new owner, or yet another PH'er who feels the need to change their username more frequently than their undercrackers ?

Erm, once every 10years which I thought was quite restrained of me! However, I agree it can be confusing.

Edit...didn't like it, reverted to standard.

Edited by m33ufo on Thursday 22 January 22:47

no ill be the new owner when the money is transferred and car picked up dont request photos as im outta the country Mark porka gt or m33ufo in contact with him i may have bought the present most expensive gt2 996 but its irrelevant i could have done a good deal on a turbo s but i belive the gt2 is more akin to my needs of a car, mostly sat in the garage nice days out in good weather plenty of keeping clean , minting in the areas underneath etc and plenty of thrills i have a 500 SC Griff so i suppose this is going to be more of a handl full we will see
its nice to have a rare car with no driver aids and all charecter
if it turns out to be an investment all the better but prinipally if it holds its purchase value ill be more than happy.
people tend to bull up values but im not buying on that basis.

[DodoRacing]

Stop posting Mk II wheel pictures!
Should the rest of us do a group by?

[Crimp]

consul said:

jfp said:

monthefish said:

...perhaps, but even this looks so much better:

Both Huffies and mine as pictured had wheel spacers front and rear. He's on A048, me PS2. Personally speaking they look better with spacers but the car is compromised. Mine has spacers with the front Enkei rims at 9" not 8.5 due to the inner edge of the rim clouting the spring - a progressive item mounted to a specialist 3 way damper. The change in offset does nothing for the scrub radius, if I could then I'd ditch the spacer. Its probably the same story at the rear....

Herr Slippydiffmeister is correct in that the most influencing "looks" factor is rear camber. Lots of it and the top of the rim sits well inside the arch, not necessary on a road car.

And finally before I get back to work and sell some brakes - don't set your car too low, I know it looks nice but it will ruin it. You need wheel travel for compliance, and you cant have wheel travel in compression if the old girl is sat on the bumpstops. Remember also lowering a GT3 or 2 will lower the roll centre (forget C of G because that's largely irrelevant in this context). The lower the roll centre the softer the car in roll so YOU WILL NEED STIFFER SPRINGS WHICH WILL COMPROMISE TRACTION, COMPLIANCE AND COMFORT ON THE ROAD. You may be able to counteract the softer roll by running your bars at full stiff, again not a great way forward and you still don't have the travel in compression. Race tracks are smooth, roads aint. Look at the spring rate on a 6 Cup car or GT3R, they are (were) huge due to the lower roll centre at race ride height, and of course increased lateral grip due to slick tyres.... The car was designed as a road car at road ride heights and the geometry was optimised thus.

Apologies if all this sounds like its coming from a teacher, its not meant that way and I'm sure there are a plenty that know a damn sight more that I'd be really happy to listen to - I find all this a lot more interesting than discussing alloy wheels.....

Mines low but not "That" low were I have noticed a difference in comfort. When I rebuilt all the suspension and change all the springs etc and control arms, I wanted my car on the floor but Chris advised
me to lower it a bit but still keep things sensible in terms of being street able otherwise I would hate it.

That sits bloody lovely, rims finish it off

[m33ufo]

wycoller said:

porkaGT said:

Slippydiff said:

I stand corrected.
So are you the new owner, or yet another PH'er who feels the need to change their username more frequently than their undercrackers ?

Erm, once every 10years which I thought was quite restrained of me! However, I agree it can be confusing.

Edit...didn't like it, reverted to standard.

Edited by m33ufo on Thursday 22 January 22:47

no ill be the new owner when the money is transferred and car picked up dont request photos as im outta the country Mark porka gt or m33ufo in contact with him i may have bought the present most expensive gt2 996 but its irrelevant i could have done a good deal on a turbo s but i belive the gt2 is more akin to my needs of a car, mostly sat in the garage nice days out in good weather plenty of keeping clean , minting in the areas underneath etc and plenty of thrills i have a 500 SC Griff so i suppose this is going to be more of a handl full we will see
its nice to have a rare car with no driver aids and all charecter
if it turns out to be an investment all the better but prinipally if it holds its purchase value ill be more than happy.
people tend to bull up values but im not buying on that basis.

Cheers Jim.

We'll have to get together when you're back in the UK and I have something else to drive!

[Neil Allan]

Ive just spent the last half hour looking through this post , some stunning looking cars.

Does anyone know how many/ if any seal grey GT2's are in the UK ? Ive only ever seen pictures from the states.

My GT wannabe