RE: Driven: Tesla Roadster

RE: Driven: Tesla Roadster

Thursday 19th November 2009

2009 Tesla Roadster | PH Review

We drive one of the few electric Teslas already delivered in the UK


It was a sharp but bright day when I arrived at ecurie25 to pick up the Tesla Roadster offered to members via their fleet - an early US prototype-spec version, and only the 15th UK Tesla to arrive in the UK.

While the car is not the most up-to-date model, I was pretty excited about a chance to drive the first all-electric sports car in the world, plus being an automotive engineer in a previous life my interest in the techy aspects of the Tesla was peaking too. The Geek is strong in this one.

First impressions? Well, it just looks like an Elise, doesn't it? Okay it does, and with good reason being based on the lithe Lotus, but I find it looks different enough to have its own style about it. It certainly has a more American look to it, but I think being Elise based it was going to struggle to be ugly. This example is in a rather uninspiring colour choice of silver with black wheels which doesn't help either. The red and black interior spices things up a bit, but it's when you open the doors and peak in that the Elise origins really shine through. It truly is just a Lotus with a bit more leather - same none adjustable steering wheel, same wide sills, same letterbox-sized door opening to clamber through and the same poor all-round visibility. (Later UK cars have a different interior to the Ecurie25 version.)

Okay, so I'm not exactly small at 6'3", but I'd forgotten how awkward getting into an Elise (or derivative) with the roof on is. One does not have the option to stay looking cool. Luckily it was a nice enough day so off came the roof and I stepped in and slid down into the nicely padded seats. It's a shame that ecurie25's example is LHD, but Tesla won't deliver the first RHD drive cars until next month.

The first bit of oddity happens now. Seatbelt on, key in the ignition, depress brake pedal, turn to 'On' position. No noise. Pull gearlever (there is only one gear, but P, D or R are all selectable) into Drive. No noise. Lift foot off brake pedal - car creeps forward. Hardly any noise. Very spooky.

As I head out onto the streets around Kings Cross it all feels rather surreal, cruising around with the only noise being some tyre roar and the general creaking, rattling and crashing commensurate with an Elise. But it's only when the first of many pedestrians blindly walk out in front of me that I realise two things. Firstly - the car might as well be silent and I need to be more aware of that fact. Secondly - the brakes aren't very good.

There is a huge amount of retardation when you come off the accelerator, which takes a lot of getting used to in town - it's about equal to pressing the brake pedal about 30% down in traffic. Definitely caught me out the first time. So - this car is teaching me a few things already. I get a couple of chances to squeeze the accelerator in town, but traffic is pretty thick. I head out of town towards Surrey to do a bit of silent hooning and come across my first dual carriageway.

Coming off a roundabout, 25mph, straight open road in front of me, floor the throttle pedal. There's a relentless surge of acceleration, followed by an eerie noise a little bit like a washing machine on fast spin. The acceleration is really surprising - not only is this a seriously quick car, but it's the way it does it that really boggles the mind. There are no breaks in the internal organ punishment, just one long surge of G-force, and all of a sudden you look down and you've broken quite a few laws. When I say it's quick, I think I should make an attempt to quantify it somehow. After considerable thought I'd say the feel, the way the acceleration feels on your body, is somewhere between a 997 Turbo and a Gallardo. It's that quick.

When you get to the twisty bits it all goes a bit pear shaped though. It may look like an Elise, but it weighs 1238kg, and about 400kg of that is battery pack, which is above the rear axle, just below the engine cover. Not the best place for all that weight, and it really shows in the corners as the Tesla rolls a lot more than you would expect. It understeers a lot too, but the constant availability of 100% torque is always there if you want to turn under into over. When it does break free at the back it's quite progressive, and easily gathered up. Just don't rely too much on the brakes on your way into a corner, as they aren't really up to the job. Lacking in feel and a bit spongy, on this particular loan car at least they don't inspire confidence. I think it's down to the fact that at town speeds it barely needs its brakes. The steering is good though, straight from the Lotus part bin so it's razor sharp.

Of course, there's one thing you can't escape when driving the Tesla - the constant eye-flick down to the power gauge. When I picked it up, it said 250 miles left. I'd done about 45 miles and now it was telling me I had 125 miles left. Does not compute. Better rethink my route then, as that means I've only got another 45 miles left by my current driving style. You start to think "Hmm, should I plug in my iPod? Should I use the heater?"

My route happily took me past PH towers, so I called in for a cuppa and a chinwag. Whilst there, Chris-R informs me that they have an electric car charging point outside and it's 3-phase too so I should be able to top up my juice. Unfortunately it shows up a slight failing - the charging cord isn't long enough to get from the charging point, past the parked cars, to the Tesla. So I'm still stuck with less than 50 miles range, but at least I've had a brew...

So after a bit more driving I arrived at my stopping point for the night and plugged the Tesla into a normal domestic power supply for a 14hr wait until it was full of juice - although owners get a 32amp charging point which does the job in six hours. This left me with plenty of time to ponder this anomaly of motoring. The eco-friendly, zero-emission (yes, yes, forgetting where the power came from) sports car.

My main question was this: who on earth is going buy a Tesla? Electric cars are best in town, for short journeys. For this the Tesla is useless, as it's crashy, uncomfortable, hard to get in and out of and you can't see a thing while driving. Sports cars are for driving, taking down your favourite roads and cross-country drives at 5am on a Sunday, but the Tesla can't really do this very well either. Not a good enough steer and certainly not a good enough range. So it's for those who want to be seen in 'the right car'. The one which will get talked about over their tofu salad with their friends. It's for eco-poseurs.

Another question one must ask is whether the Tesla is the future of motoring? Doom-mongerers tell us the days of the combustion engine are over, that electric cars are the way forward. I hope that isn't the case, as for me the Tesla is too many compromises in a fancy frock.

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Beefmeister

Original Poster:

16,482 posts

230 months

Friday 20th November 2009
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Oh, and I should add - don't leave your camera with a full memory card of shots in the boot of a Tesla all day. I did, and when I got to the end of the day all the shots were corrupted. Never happened to me before on that camera, or since. Could be a coincidence, but I wouldn't take the chance again!

Stig

11,817 posts

284 months

Friday 20th November 2009
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Beefmeister said:
Oh, and I should add - don't leave your camera with a full memory card of shots in the boot of a Tesla all day. I did, and when I got to the end of the day all the shots were corrupted. Never happened to me before on that camera, or since. Could be a coincidence, but I wouldn't take the chance again!
Beefmeister - you weren't driving down Theobald's/Clerkenwell road at about 1pm yesterday were you (turned into Eyre St Hill IIRC)?

If so - spotted smile

Beefmeister

Original Poster:

16,482 posts

230 months

Friday 20th November 2009
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Nope, wasn't me guv... Could be this car though - ecurie25 members are taking it out so it's highly likely!

bencollins

3,497 posts

205 months

Friday 20th November 2009
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1880s journalist
"That benz contraption is rubbish and will never catch on, it does not gallop as fast as a horse and you cant use the exhaust on your begonias, Plus there is no clip clop sound, in fact it makes a different noise completely."


GM182

1,269 posts

225 months

Friday 20th November 2009
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Hasn't this car been around for a while? I'm sure I have seen a silver one parked on the street in Fulham several times over the past nine months..

Have to say, the car sounds alright as a first attempt at an electric sports car. Things will develop pretty quickly I hope, so it doesn't necessarily mean an end to the thrill of driving.

Torque-fuelled oversteer is alright even if the handling isn't sweet overall.

kambites

67,543 posts

221 months

Friday 20th November 2009
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It may be flawed in its execution but, given that the technology is still largely in its infancy, I think it's an important car nonetheless. Electric motors may never completely replace the internal combustion engine for powering sports cars, but I think it would be silly to bet against there ever being a good electric sports car.

The Wookie

13,928 posts

228 months

Friday 20th November 2009
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Beefmeister said:
Could be a coincidence
Very much doubt it, that motor has quite a magnetic field to it.

Some people know my stance on this, I do think Electric cars are the way forward for every day motoring. Once cost effective, high energy content battery tech has been cracked (and there have been some significant breakthroughs in the last couple of months), then I do believe we will start seeing Series Hybrids (Chevy Volt) first and eventually proper conventional electric cars rolling out alongside IC engined equivalents that wont be able to compete in terms refinement, complexity and running costs.

However, as Beefmeister has clearly identified, it doesn't make for a thrilling vehicle, so fear not, I believe there's plenty of life left in the IC engine yet for sports cars.

Hellbound

2,500 posts

176 months

Friday 20th November 2009
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Some say, when driving this, you have no sense of speed from the lack of engine sound, especially at full chat. I say you have an even higher sense of speed now you can hear/feel the world move past you without an intrusive combustion engine banging away.

After they finish the saloon variant, they should move into the commercial market; taxis, small vans etc. Improve the range and practicality and they'd have enough funds in the coffers to bring out another roadster that betters this one in every way, at a third of the price. Oh well, one can dream.

Phatbenito

25 posts

179 months

Friday 20th November 2009
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Interesting.

I have 3 Phase at my office and live 14 miles from work over fast sweeping roads....

Anybody know the BIK (Company Car Tax) implications for this car?

456mgt

2,504 posts

266 months

Friday 20th November 2009
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Beefmeister said:
Oh, and I should add - don't leave your camera with a full memory card of shots in the boot of a Tesla all day. I did, and when I got to the end of the day all the shots were corrupted. Never happened to me before on that camera, or since. Could be a coincidence, but I wouldn't take the chance again!
Never mind your camera man, what about your sperm count?

leon9191

752 posts

193 months

Friday 20th November 2009
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Ok the range isn’t great as you say approx. 100miles from a full charge but if its as quick as a 997 turbo how much did that full charge cost compared to how much 100 full bore miles would cost in a 977 turbo (fuel cost that is).

I’m gonna guess its quite a bit less.

I know 14hrs is a long time to fuel a car but as first attempts go its not to be sniffed at.

dirty boy

14,697 posts

209 months

Friday 20th November 2009
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Phatbenito said:
Interesting.

I have 3 Phase at my office and live 14 miles from work over fast sweeping roads....

Anybody know the BIK (Company Car Tax) implications for this car?
Free road tax
BIK 9%

'presumably' no fuel benefit?

loomx

327 posts

225 months

Friday 20th November 2009
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I drove a MINI E yesterday, Im amazed by the electric drive, its brilliant. The way the power is delivered is definetly suited to 4WD or RWD though, there is just SO much pull from the off!

Beefmeister

Original Poster:

16,482 posts

230 months

Friday 20th November 2009
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Ah, I may have forgotten to mention in the article that the Tesla costs a cool £92,000!!!!!

scratchchin Hmmm, Tesla or Elise R and £60,000 of fuel...

Edited by Beefmeister on Friday 20th November 11:59

300bhp/ton

41,030 posts

190 months

Friday 20th November 2009
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Nice article thanks Beefmeister smile



As for the Tesla. Sounds like a nice trinket for those with too much money. Pretty pointless otherwise and arguably a waste of resources.

205

76 posts

228 months

Friday 20th November 2009
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92,000 ??

For a new one maybe. That's a '58' Plate car.
After a spanking by ecurie25's members probably worth 60k now.

I drove one last month with a completely different interior.

Guess this must have been an early car Beefmeister?

It was immensely fast though smile

The Wookie

13,928 posts

228 months

Friday 20th November 2009
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loomx said:
I drove a MINI E yesterday, Im amazed by the electric drive, its brilliant. The way the power is delivered is definetly suited to 4WD or RWD though, there is just SO much pull from the off!
And THAT is why we will see it in everyday cars. It's just so much more straightforward than even an Auto that it will really appeal to the average driver if it's cheap and fast enough. Shame as I suspect conventional gearbox usage will be a dying art, like double declutching

ETA - I take it back about rear wheel drive, I forgot about Regen braking.

Edited by The Wookie on Friday 20th November 12:25

Anubis

1,029 posts

179 months

Friday 20th November 2009
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I praise this car for actually not being a stupid gay looking thing that floats around town - so well done to Tesla for actually making a desirable looking car people may want.

However...there are problems. I have no doubt it took a small mountain to climb to get the Tesla into the real world (we take this technology for granted, when really it's probably very complex), however there are issue's:

> Its far too expensive. £90k+ is GT3 territory, even 2nd hand Ferrari cash

> The batteries are very heavy.

> The distance 'til empty - bad. OK for a quick hoon, but forever looking at power levels will make you hate the car rather than enjoy the ride its providing

> The CEO of Aston Martin is also 100% correct. Electric cars are NOT the future - hydrogen based one's will replace fossil fuel based vehicles. This is where the real vehicle technology is being developed today.

> Big oil companies will NOT install electric recharge units at their stations. They will install hydrogen refill units, because this will generate much more cash (the way they like it). Electric + current petrol pumps = bang.

> Customers are going to get a bit fed up of waiting for a 14 hour recharge, when I can refill any car in minutes.

In short, its a concept car thats managed to escape into the real world. George Clooney may be seen driving one soon, but no one else will.

Edited by Anubis on Friday 20th November 12:25

GTRene

16,491 posts

224 months

Friday 20th November 2009
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1450kg?? does it weight that much?

then better take a Elise and make that electric like the Dutch guys do...
I was a passenger in such car (wich had the original gearbox but 2 gears the took out (5 and 6) otherwise it would go 300km/u)

http://www.ececars.nl/lotuselise

they talk about just 100kg on the standard Elise...

http://www.carros.nl/e-books/autotests/lotus-elise...

it was a amazing ride biggrin

The Wookie

13,928 posts

228 months

Friday 20th November 2009
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Anubis said:
The CEO of Aston Marting is also 100% correct. Electric cars are NOT the future - hydrogen based one's will replace fossil fuel based vehicles. This is where the real vehicle technology is being developed today.
Real vehicle technology is being developed for both Hydrogen and Electric Vehicles. Which will prevail will depend on technological breakthroughs as currently neither EV or H2 tech is viable to completely compete with regular vehicles. At the moment electric tech is winning, with the added bonus that it doesn't require complete abandonment of Fossil Fuel electricity to improve well to wheel efficiency.

H2 has a lot of problems as an energy storage medium