B8 S4 Ownership
Discussion
fastgerman said:
B7 is still the best RS4
B8 will remain the best S4 :-)
It'll be interesting to see the direction Audi takes with the performance models not covered in that link.B8 will remain the best S4 :-)
The S4 could easily retain its current engine and give better performance due to reduced weight and a cheeky bit of mapping.
For the RS I'd like to see either a small capacity 6 cylinder twin turbo harking back to the B5 RS4 glory days, or better yet the 4 litre twin turbo V8 from the RS6/7/S8. Unfortunately I suspect the former would be too expensive to engineer and the latter would give the RS4 rather too much performance compared to other models in the range, so may be ruled out on those grounds.
I'm not aware of any indications of powertrain direction, so may well be in the public domain and I'm just uninformed!
fastgerman said:
B9 looks the same....
http://www.pistonheads.com/news/ph-germancars/new-...
Except for stick on dash screen
And the new TFT dash, which could be quite nice. http://www.pistonheads.com/news/ph-germancars/new-...
Except for stick on dash screen
Adrian E said:
The S4 could easily retain its current engine and give better performance due to reduced weight and a cheeky bit of mapping.
For the RS I'd like to see either a small capacity 6 cylinder twin turbo harking back to the B5 RS4 glory days, or better yet the 4 litre twin turbo V8 from the RS6/7/S8. Unfortunately I suspect the former would be too expensive to engineer and the latter would give the RS4 rather too much performance compared to other models in the range, so may be ruled out on those grounds.
Seeing as the SQ5 in the US has iirc 349bhp from the 3.0 TFSI, I can't see any reason why they couldn't find a few more, say ~360 to match the C45 AMG.For the RS I'd like to see either a small capacity 6 cylinder twin turbo harking back to the B5 RS4 glory days, or better yet the 4 litre twin turbo V8 from the RS6/7/S8. Unfortunately I suspect the former would be too expensive to engineer and the latter would give the RS4 rather too much performance compared to other models in the range, so may be ruled out on those grounds.
With the weight loss, that would probably be about the 'right' power level to slot into the rest of the range.
This would probably be a popular option for the US market, given the relatively limited number of powerplants available here; why add another if you don't have to.
I can see the same logic applied to the RS4 - probably not the existing V8 used in the RS5, for fuel economy reasons, but very likely the 4.0 TFSI, as you say. Most likely tuned down a fair bit, but still delivering a little more than the current V8.
Nice shots silent brown.
Going to see if I can clean my exhaust tips, ordered some 0000 fine steel wool.
Had an odd issue today where the key didn't seem to want to release from the dash! Also a warning has appeared twice saying 3rd brake light fail, yet 1st time it happened I got the GF to check and she said it was working. This time I was on my own. Oddly it's only happened twice in the few weeks I've had the car, I only drive it every 3 days or so though.
Going to see if I can clean my exhaust tips, ordered some 0000 fine steel wool.
Had an odd issue today where the key didn't seem to want to release from the dash! Also a warning has appeared twice saying 3rd brake light fail, yet 1st time it happened I got the GF to check and she said it was working. This time I was on my own. Oddly it's only happened twice in the few weeks I've had the car, I only drive it every 3 days or so though.
Adrian E said:
fastgerman said:
B7 is still the best RS4
B8 will remain the best S4 :-)
It'll be interesting to see the direction Audi takes with the performance models not covered in that link.B8 will remain the best S4 :-)
The S4 could easily retain its current engine and give better performance due to reduced weight and a cheeky bit of mapping.
For the RS I'd like to see either a small capacity 6 cylinder twin turbo harking back to the B5 RS4 glory days, or better yet the 4 litre twin turbo V8 from the RS6/7/S8. Unfortunately I suspect the former would be too expensive to engineer and the latter would give the RS4 rather too much performance compared to other models in the range, so may be ruled out on those grounds.
I'm not aware of any indications of powertrain direction, so may well be in the public domain and I'm just uninformed!
Until, they do that, the S4 will always be held back power wise, as they need to keep it (detuned) at its current level, or it would be too close to the RS, for the marketing bods.
I sometimes wish they had produced a poverty spec R8 with the S4 engine, and a manual box as they would now be a cheap car to get big power from.
mrdanbartlett said:
Nice shots silent brown.
Going to see if I can clean my exhaust tips, ordered some 0000 fine steel wool.
Had an odd issue today where the key didn't seem to want to release from the dash! Also a warning has appeared twice saying 3rd brake light fail, yet 1st time it happened I got the GF to check and she said it was working. This time I was on my own. Oddly it's only happened twice in the few weeks I've had the car, I only drive it every 3 days or so though.
The key not releasing is quite a common complaint - think you have to wait a few seconds before trying to withdraw from the dash? Sure I read something on A5oc about it (we have keyless so not experienced it)Going to see if I can clean my exhaust tips, ordered some 0000 fine steel wool.
Had an odd issue today where the key didn't seem to want to release from the dash! Also a warning has appeared twice saying 3rd brake light fail, yet 1st time it happened I got the GF to check and she said it was working. This time I was on my own. Oddly it's only happened twice in the few weeks I've had the car, I only drive it every 3 days or so though.
Is it defo the 3rd brakelight, or just indicating that 1 of them is duff? I've had brake light bulbs partially fail, but depends if you've got the LED tail lights or not.
Adrian E said:
The key not releasing is quite a common complaint - think you have to wait a few seconds before trying to withdraw from the dash?
Yeah; everything on that platform can suffer from it slightly. You need to give it a good sharp poke in (lol) and let it spring back out. If you push it gently or not far enough or don't let it spring back they tend to stick.Dr G said:
Yeah; everything on that platform can suffer from it slightly. You need to give it a good sharp poke in (lol) and let it spring back out. If you push it gently or not far enough or don't let it spring back they tend to stick.
Is it my imagination, or are the keys on newer cars slightly longer than the early B8s?Adrian E said:
For the RS I'd like to see either a small capacity 6 cylinder twin turbo harking back to the B5 RS4 glory days, or better yet the 4 litre twin turbo V8 from the RS6/7/S8. Unfortunately I suspect the former would be too expensive to engineer and the latter would give the RS4 rather too much performance compared to other models in the range, so may be ruled out on those grounds.
The Macan already has the 3.0 supercharged engine in twin turbo form, albeit heavily revised to 3.6. So there you have it, ready made RS4 engine.
Cupramax said:
Adrian E said:
For the RS I'd like to see either a small capacity 6 cylinder twin turbo harking back to the B5 RS4 glory days, or better yet the 4 litre twin turbo V8 from the RS6/7/S8. Unfortunately I suspect the former would be too expensive to engineer and the latter would give the RS4 rather too much performance compared to other models in the range, so may be ruled out on those grounds.
The Macan already has the 3.0 supercharged engine in twin turbo form, albeit heavily revised to 3.6. So there you have it, ready made RS4 engine.
Passenger-side rear indicator stopped working, and blown bulb picture on DIS. So thought I would change the bulb, but the bulb is actually fine. (tested on something else). And a brand new one in there doesn't work. Other lights in the cluster are OK.
So any ideas on what might be the problem? (though I am just going to chuck it at Audi next week and say sort it (under warranty)).
So any ideas on what might be the problem? (though I am just going to chuck it at Audi next week and say sort it (under warranty)).
Oh so I m not alone with the car suggestingy faulty right rear lights and in fact nothing wrong
Latest weird occurrence is getting out of car. And walking off to find dash still fully lit and the radio still on ! Being a lease car really don't give a toss any more only another year to go ! Some Audi acolyte can deal with the POS when they buy it .
Latest weird occurrence is getting out of car. And walking off to find dash still fully lit and the radio still on ! Being a lease car really don't give a toss any more only another year to go ! Some Audi acolyte can deal with the POS when they buy it .
mrdanbartlett said:
Odd, not had my car long but the only 'issue' I've had is that I get that same bulb with a cross logo on the DIS and '3rd brake light fail' message or something, yet it seems to be working fine. I've only had it twice so far (had the car 3-4 weeks).
I had this previously. Dodgy sensor. Replaced under warranty.Adrian E said:
It'll be interesting to see the direction Audi takes with the performance models not covered in that link.
The S4 could easily retain its current engine and give better performance due to reduced weight and a cheeky bit of mapping.
For the RS I'd like to see either a small capacity 6 cylinder twin turbo harking back to the B5 RS4 glory days, or better yet the 4 litre twin turbo V8 from the RS6/7/S8. Unfortunately I suspect the former would be too expensive to engineer and the latter would give the RS4 rather too much performance compared to other models in the range, so may be ruled out on those grounds.
I'm not aware of any indications of powertrain direction, so may well be in the public domain and I'm just uninformed!
if the weight savings are as good as they claim, I agree, the S4 with the current supercharged V6 would be more than adequate, it's more than capable of a few more HP without major re-work too.The S4 could easily retain its current engine and give better performance due to reduced weight and a cheeky bit of mapping.
For the RS I'd like to see either a small capacity 6 cylinder twin turbo harking back to the B5 RS4 glory days, or better yet the 4 litre twin turbo V8 from the RS6/7/S8. Unfortunately I suspect the former would be too expensive to engineer and the latter would give the RS4 rather too much performance compared to other models in the range, so may be ruled out on those grounds.
I'm not aware of any indications of powertrain direction, so may well be in the public domain and I'm just uninformed!
RS4 is a hard one, personally I hate the fact that the B8 is only available as an Avant, and much as I love V8's, the days of the NA V8 are over, the S4's supercharged V6 is a better setup in almost every way (even though it's some 100Hp down on paper).
I guess the real way forward would be the Turbo'ed V8 from the S6? At which point do you make the S4 a de-tuned V8 turbo too? (I would love an S4 saloon with the engine and box from the RS6, on 18/19 rims with 'std' S4 suspension).
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