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Yiliterate

1,472 posts

76 months

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Sunday 17th June 2012 quote quote all
Chavez - Lee spoiler alert:





Once Chavez got into the fight, it reminded me of the start of that Benylin advert with the little Mexican wrestler...Lee just could not get Chavez off his chest!!! Must have been so demoralising for Lee; it didn't matter what he threw at him, he just shrugged it off and kept walking forward...then started throwing those vicious body shots!

Would love to see Chavez against Alvarez, but it looks like it will be Martinez first; not that I'm complaining...!

tuscaneer

3,371 posts

95 months

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Monday 18th June 2012 quote quote all
such a shame that, it was a good tactical battle warming up right there.

chavez jr 7th round stoppage!! best win of his career that. anyone for chavez/canelo in mexico city for end of the year??

adamek ud chambers.didn't see the fight but by all accounts chambers was fighting with an arm injury and still was unlucky not to get the nod.i think the beating from vitali has taken something permanently from adamek.too much punishment in one fight for my liking

hornetrider

41,176 posts

75 months

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Monday 18th June 2012 quote quote all
Yiliterate said:
Ooooh nasty cut!
Hideous. The blokes eyebrow was split in two hurl

Yiliterate

1,472 posts

76 months

Yiliterate

1,472 posts

76 months

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Wednesday 20th June 2012 quote quote all
Not good news at all...first Hatton Promotions, now this:

http://www.worldboxingnews.net/2012/06/maloney-and...

Both stables have some great British prospects including Price, Martin Murray, Scott Quigg, etc. I know Maloney wasn't in it for the long run but unless another TV company steps into the void, there's a lot of action we could be missing out on...
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Yiliterate

1,472 posts

76 months

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Wednesday 20th June 2012 quote quote all
International Prizefighter - Heavyweights on SS1 tonight at 9pm; repeated at 2.30am on SS1 and 9am SS2 if you miss it.

Yiliterate

1,472 posts

76 months

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Wednesday 20th June 2012 quote quote all
Worth catching this, if only for the Kevin Johnson interviews...the guy is superb!!!

tuscaneer

3,371 posts

95 months

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Thursday 21st June 2012 quote quote all
Yiliterate said:
Worth catching this, if only for the Kevin Johnson interviews...the guy is superb!!!
going to watch this tonight...i noticed he was full off bombast on ringside last thursday.quite funny when you consider his performance in the klitschko fight!!

Yiliterate

1,472 posts

76 months

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Saturday 23rd June 2012 quote quote all
Just found out that Ricky Burns will defend his WBO Lightweight title against Kevin Mitchell on the undercard of the Haye-Chisora show.

http://www.saddoboxing.com/19245-ricky-burns-kevin...

Can this really have just been announced or did I miss it?! Either way, I'm blcensoreddy delighted - I got a ticket a few weeks ago on the strength of the headline fight alone (though I was hoping Groves would also be on the show) so this is a real bonus...!!!

(First I heard of the Rees-Mathews rematch as well...another one to look forward to!).

Yiliterate

1,472 posts

76 months

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Monday 25th June 2012 quote quote all
As an aside, an interesting list of the best heavyweight chins. Surprised there's no place for Marciano (only knocked down twice in 49 fights) or any of the old-time fighters, but these things are always debatable:

http://www.livefight.com/news.php?news_id=1971&amp...


Edited by Yiliterate on Monday 25th June 17:58

Lost_BMW

10,855 posts

46 months

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Tuesday 26th June 2012 quote quote all
Did anyone see the Ortiz-Lopez and Matthysse-Soto fights on Sunday morning?

Won't give the game away in case anyone has recorded it but a bill well worth watching!

tuscaneer

3,371 posts

95 months

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Tuesday 26th June 2012 quote quote all
Yiliterate said:
As an aside, an interesting list of the best heavyweight chins. Surprised there's no place for Marciano (only knocked down twice in 49 fights) or any of the old-time fighters, but these things are always debatable:

http://www.livefight.com/news.php?news_id=1971&amp...


Edited by Yiliterate on Monday 25th June 17:58
YEAH,MARCIANO SHOULD DEFO BE IN THERE.what about tom cribb?? his durability was legendary from all the stories i've read + some actual accounts from pierce egan's writings

tuscaneer

3,371 posts

95 months

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Tuesday 26th June 2012 quote quote all
Lost_BMW said:
Did anyone see the Ortiz-Lopez and Matthysse-Soto fights on Sunday morning?

Won't give the game away in case anyone has recorded it but a bill well worth watching!
both good fights!! i think that ortiz is too quick to anger, too easy to hit. i think canelo does both of these guys on the same night

Lost_BMW

10,855 posts

46 months

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Tuesday 26th June 2012 quote quote all
tuscaneer said:
YEAH,MARCIANO SHOULD DEFO BE IN THERE.what about tom cribb?? his durability was legendary from all the stories i've read + some actual accounts from pierce egan's writings
Did you see the documentary about him on ESPN last week?

Way smaller than today's heavyweights but what punch technique! One of my all time favourites. The Walcott and Archie Moore fights were absolute classics.

Lost_BMW

10,855 posts

46 months

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Tuesday 26th June 2012 quote quote all
tuscaneer said:
Lost_BMW said:
Did anyone see the Ortiz-Lopez and Matthysse-Soto fights on Sunday morning?

Won't give the game away in case anyone has recorded it but a bill well worth watching!
both good fights!! i think that ortiz is too quick to anger, too easy to hit. i think canelo does both of these guys on the same night
What do you make of the pundits' comments on the outcome and how genuine it was?


Canelo at ringside looked like he was laughing his head off, in between licking his lips! I don't imagine he'll be losing any sleep over the prospect(s).

devonshiredave

449 posts

72 months

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Tuesday 26th June 2012 quote quote all
Hi PH,

I've just got into boxing and wanted to ask for some help/tips etc - is this thread the right place to do it or shall i start a new one?

Cheers

Lost_BMW

10,855 posts

46 months

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Tuesday 26th June 2012 quote quote all
devonshiredave said:
Hi PH,

I've just got into boxing and wanted to ask for some help/tips etc - is this thread the right place to do it or shall i start a new one?

Cheers
I reckon this would be as good a place as any given how many serious fans/practitioners post here.

devonshiredave

449 posts

72 months

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Tuesday 26th June 2012 quote quote all
Lost_BMW said:
devonshiredave said:
Hi PH,

I've just got into boxing and wanted to ask for some help/tips etc - is this thread the right place to do it or shall i start a new one?

Cheers
I reckon this would be as good a place as any given how many serious fans/practitioners post here.
Thanks reply.

I have what are probably incredibly naive questions... Here goes.

Stance: ive got myself a heavybag, gloves, wraps etc and have been 'practising' in my garden, getting used to some movements, range etc. What i cant yet determine is which stance i should use.

I am right handed and that is definitely my dominant side for everything. This puts me into the orthodox stance - leading with left. However i feel way more comfortable using southpaw and leading with my right. Perhaps even stranger i could see as my general skills get better i wouldnt be adverse to being able to use either.

My reason for prefering southpaw: left hand is the weaker and feels like currently having little effect, although i know this will change with time and practise. Reach: ive got quite long arms, currently if i throw left straight, right hook i end up all kinds of fked up with balance off, sloppy guard etc as i try to move forward and it feels like this cause me to lose momentum/power as i try to make use of my good side. Generally: im so much more co-ordinated with my right that if i was to do pretty much anything it would be with the right hand.

Are these issues just down to my current abilities with left hand that i will overcome with time or more fundamentally is ok to box the wrong way round?

If anyone cares to answer ill post up my next question a little later or tomorrow.

Cheers

Yiliterate

1,472 posts

76 months

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Tuesday 26th June 2012 quote quote all
Just briefly read your post - there will be longer answers to come, but one quick point to start; there have been a few fighters over the years who have led with their stronger side. One of the most prominent was the great Henry Cooper (RIP), who was left handed but fought out of the orthodox stance, which he felt allowed him to make the most of his superb left hook ('Enery's 'Ammer) - the shot that put Clay on his backside in 1963. In short, you're not alone...!

kentmotorcompany

2,374 posts

80 months

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Tuesday 26th June 2012 quote quote all
devonshiredave said:
Thanks reply.

I have what are probably incredibly naive questions... Here goes.

Stance: ive got myself a heavybag, gloves, wraps etc and have been 'practising' in my garden, getting used to some movements, range etc. What i cant yet determine is which stance i should use.

I am right handed and that is definitely my dominant side for everything. This puts me into the orthodox stance - leading with left. However i feel way more comfortable using southpaw and leading with my right. Perhaps even stranger i could see as my general skills get better i wouldnt be adverse to being able to use either.

My reason for prefering southpaw: left hand is the weaker and feels like currently having little effect, although i know this will change with time and practise. Reach: ive got quite long arms, currently if i throw left straight, right hook i end up all kinds of fked up with balance off, sloppy guard etc as i try to move forward and it feels like this cause me to lose momentum/power as i try to make use of my good side. Generally: im so much more co-ordinated with my right that if i was to do pretty much anything it would be with the right hand.

Are these issues just down to my current abilities with left hand that i will overcome with time or more fundamentally is ok to box the wrong way round?

If anyone cares to answer ill post up my next question a little later or tomorrow.

Cheers
Regarding the stance thing, I would say it sounds like you need to have a few private sessions with a decent boxing trainer.

Right handed southpaws do exist, so its not something I would instantly dismiss although it sounds unlikely that it is right for you.

A decent trainer wil be able to help with what suits you best, although a lot will just want you get some of the basics right then worry about what suits you once you are reasonably proficient in an orthodox stance.

One other thing to consider you have not mentioned is your feet There is quite limited footwork for you to practice on a bag, especially if the bag is against the wall. Once you start moving around a bit more, you might find one more comfortable based on footwork.

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