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briangriffin

1,570 posts

167 months

Sunday 16th November 2014
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tuscaneer said:
He was right next to me. Touching distance. fking massive guy.....but its all relative cus wlad dwarfs him.
I know what you mean about being at the fights physically. Ill be telling this tale to my grandkids!!!
Ive been thwarted on so many occasions and with the postponement in september i really thought my 15 year run of bad luck was continuing....
I sat next to Briggs at a show in cardiff a few years ago and he is a big man thats for sure, got a photo with him and his fist is bigger than my head!!

Briggs does need to remember what happened last time he faced a Klitschko though! namely a few weeks in hospital.... he amuses me though 'let's go champ!!'

You'll have missed his comments on TV too which were funny,

"all the stuff i've been doing with Klitchko have been filmed on my Iphone! the very first Iphone! The iphone 2!"

Eurosport commentators may have mentioned that the iphone one probably came before the 2! haha

Sterillium

22,226 posts

224 months

Sunday 16th November 2014
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What time do we think Anthony Joshua will be stepping into the ring Saturday?

I need to watch it but I'm busy (I don't suppose it'll last too long...)

Yiliterate

3,786 posts

205 months

Monday 17th November 2014
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dirty boy said:
Pleased to see Bradley Saunders added to the PPV card on 22 November, he's a top fighter, Matchroom seem to keep their fighters active which is always a good thing.
It's also another example of shrewd strategic thinking by Matchroom. It gives them a great opportunity to establish a strong foothold in the North-East, just in the same way they've done in Liverpool by signing Bellew, three of the Smith brothers, etc and Hull through Luke Campbell and Tommy Coyle. Eddie Hearn is already talking about staging a massive show in Newcastle in April next year...
Comments from Hearn on his plans for the North-East:

http://www.chroniclelive.co.uk/sport/other-sport/b...

dirty boy

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14,688 posts

208 months

Monday 17th November 2014
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Was flicking like a mad man between Macklin and Klitschko, glad I saw the KO and most of the good bits, Wlad really did do the business, part of me thinks he wanted to shut Briggs up with that performance, let his hands go and was pissed off with the odd dirty throw by Pulev.


Yiliterate

3,786 posts

205 months

Monday 17th November 2014
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dirty boy said:
Was flicking like a mad man between Macklin and Klitschko, glad I saw the KO and most of the good bits, Wlad really did do the business, part of me thinks he wanted to shut Briggs up with that performance, let his hands go and was pissed off with the odd dirty throw by Pulev.
Pity about Macklin...doesn't look the same fighter post-Golovkin.

tuscaneer

7,738 posts

224 months

Monday 17th November 2014
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Yiliterate said:
dirty boy said:
Was flicking like a mad man between Macklin and Klitschko, glad I saw the KO and most of the good bits, Wlad really did do the business, part of me thinks he wanted to shut Briggs up with that performance, let his hands go and was pissed off with the odd dirty throw by Pulev.
Pity about Macklin...doesn't look the same fighter post-Golovkin.
it seems like a million years ago when he went life and death with moore. too many miles on the clock now I fear

Yiliterate

3,786 posts

205 months

Monday 17th November 2014
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tuscaneer said:
Yiliterate said:
dirty boy said:
Was flicking like a mad man between Macklin and Klitschko, glad I saw the KO and most of the good bits, Wlad really did do the business, part of me thinks he wanted to shut Briggs up with that performance, let his hands go and was pissed off with the odd dirty throw by Pulev.
Pity about Macklin...doesn't look the same fighter post-Golovkin.
it seems like a million years ago when he went life and death with moore. too many miles on the clock now I fear
Guten tag! How was the rest of your trip...?!

It's funny; 12 months ago we were looking forward to some massive domestic Middleweight fights with the IBF belt in the middle of it. Fast forward to today, the belt is in the States via Germany and Australia, Barker's retired, Macklin might not be too far behind him, Lee has flirted with stepping down to Light-Middleweight and Murray seems to be pursuing his career in Monaco under the guidance of South African promoters! What a difference a year makes...!

tuscaneer

7,738 posts

224 months

Tuesday 18th November 2014
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Yiliterate said:
Guten tag! How was the rest of your trip...?!

It's funny; 12 months ago we were looking forward to some massive domestic Middleweight fights with the IBF belt in the middle of it. Fast forward to today, the belt is in the States via Germany and Australia, Barker's retired, Macklin might not be too far behind him, Lee has flirted with stepping down to Light-Middleweight and Murray seems to be pursuing his career in Monaco under the guidance of South African promoters! What a difference a year makes...!
If you've not been before i'd recommend Hamburg for a city break mate, really cool city.
He's fighting again in march and if it's confirmed that it will be the winner of fury/chisora then i'll be straight back over!!

I've always felt that (barker aside!) lee would trail in the wake of macklin and murray and I still feel murray is by far the best of the bunch......but that decision to base himself in Monaco is a weird one!!

my middleweight attention has definitely turned to the potential rematching of GGG and pirog should pirog make good on his promise to come back out of enforced injury retirement. that is the dream fight for me

Yiliterate

3,786 posts

205 months

Tuesday 18th November 2014
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GGG vs Pirog has the potential to be a great fight but Pirog has been inactive for quite some time now - I'd seriously hope that Pirog would take at least a couple of tune-up fights first.

I'd agree about Martin Murray being the best of the domestic bunch...I just have a nagging doubt that he won't get to be world champion. I think he can consider himself unlucky not to already have won a belt given how well he performed against Martinez (when he was still considered one of the best p4p fighters around) and especially against Felix Sturm. But his next shot will be against Golovkin and you'd have to be a brave man to bet against GGG at the moment. If he's unsuccessful in three title shots on the trot, chances are he'll slip down the rankings and would need to work his way back into contention...and not being able to fight in the US limits his options in getting another shot as well.


Edited by Yiliterate on Tuesday 18th November 10:48

Birkin1932

784 posts

138 months

Tuesday 18th November 2014
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I always assumed the monaco connection was purely about tax.

Birkin1932

784 posts

138 months

Tuesday 18th November 2014
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I always assumed the monaco connection was purely about tax.

Yiliterate

3,786 posts

205 months

Wednesday 19th November 2014
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Tax must come into it somewhere along the line - otherwise why Monaco?! - although I don't know whether Murray is actually resident there (like the F1 drivers, etc). Maybe just working there is sufficient, or maybe it's something to do with tax on the events themselves that allows the promoters to pay more of the income to the fighters.

In fairness to the promoters, they said they'd get Murray a title shot and it looks like they've done just that. It'll be interesting to see if the fight with GGG is the culmination of the deal or whether Murray will continue with Golden Gloves, even if he loses.

dirty boy

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14,688 posts

208 months

Wednesday 19th November 2014
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So..

Exciting weekend ahead.

Vasyl Lomachenko is facing some dude I've never heard of, okay, Lomachenko is new and has lost 1 of 3, but he had a crack (almost) against Salido in his second fight and had a lot go against him in that fight, in his third fight he beat a very respectable Russell and I suspect in 12 months time, we'll be seeing and hearing a lot more about him.

That aside, Pac Man is fighting Chris Algieri. This is a serious test for Manny, one that I think he'll still win, but he'll have to work hard for it as Algieri is an awkward 'rangy' fighter and beat a tough Provodnikov (after getting sent to the canvas early on!) it'll be an interesting contest.

Back to the UK! (From The Ring)

George Groves (No. 4) vs. Denis Douglin
12 rounds – Cruiserweight division
Mamma's Boy has been coached by Floyd of late, I hope Groves isn't taking this lightly - he shouldn't be as it'd destroy his career and force a rebuild. Groves should be too fast for him, but I think Douglin will be game for this and slightly 'unknown' with the changes he's made of late.

Want to do a write up on each one, but just got a rush job to sort!

Tony Bellew vs. Nathan Cleverly
12 rounds – Cruiserweight division.


Scott Quigg (No. 3) vs. Hidenori Otake
12 rounds – Junior featherweight division

James DeGale (No. 5) vs. Marco Antonio Periban
12 rounds – Super middleweight division.

Jamie McDonnell (No. 9) vs. Javier Chacon
12 rounds – Bantamweight division

Callum Smith vs. Nikola Sjekloca
12 rounds – Super middleweight division
Smith, good boxer,

Anthony Joshua vs. Michael Sprott
10 rounds – Heavyweight division

STW2010

5,714 posts

161 months

Wednesday 19th November 2014
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Who are we all leaning towards regarding Bellew-Cleverly?

I think Cleverly will win this one again. Potentially more convincingly than the first fight too (which I thought he was the clear winner).

Callum Smith has a tough fight on his hands. Hopefully he'll come through it.

dirty boy

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14,688 posts

208 months

Wednesday 19th November 2014
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STW2010 said:
Who are we all leaning towards regarding Bellew-Cleverly?

I think Cleverly will win this one again. Potentially more convincingly than the first fight too (which I thought he was the clear winner).

Callum Smith has a tough fight on his hands. Hopefully he'll come through it.
Most are leaning with Clev' what's surprised me most is how much bigger he looks, he could actually be a real handful for Bellew, but I just fancy Bellew to step on Clev' and hurt him early on, proper 50/50 fight in my eyes.

Amirhussain

11,486 posts

162 months

Wednesday 19th November 2014
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dirty boy said:
So..

Exciting weekend ahead.

Vasyl Lomachenko is facing some dude I've never heard of, okay, Lomachenko is new and has lost 1 of 3, but he had a crack (almost) against Salido in his second fight and had a lot go against him in that fight, in his third fight he beat a very respectable Russell and I suspect in 12 months time, we'll be seeing and hearing a lot more about him.

That aside, Pac Man is fighting Chris Algieri. This is a serious test for Manny, one that I think he'll still win, but he'll have to work hard for it as Algieri is an awkward 'rangy' fighter and beat a tough Provodnikov (after getting sent to the canvas early on!) it'll be an interesting contest.

Back to the UK! (From The Ring)


George Groves (No. 4) vs. Denis Douglin
12 rounds – Cruiserweight division
Mamma's Boy has been coached by Floyd of late, I hope Groves isn't taking this lightly - he shouldn't be as it'd destroy his career and force a rebuild. Groves should be too fast for him, but I think Douglin will be game for this and slightly 'unknown' with the changes he's made of late.

Want to do a write up on each one, but just got a rush job to sort!

Tony Bellew vs. Nathan Cleverly
12 rounds – Cruiserweight division.


Scott Quigg (No. 3) vs. Hidenori Otake
12 rounds – Junior featherweight division

James DeGale (No. 5) vs. Marco Antonio Periban
12 rounds – Super middleweight division.

Jamie McDonnell (No. 9) vs. Javier Chacon
12 rounds – Bantamweight division

Callum Smith vs. Nikola Sjekloca
12 rounds – Super middleweight division
Smith, good boxer,

Anthony Joshua vs. Michael Sprott
10 rounds – Heavyweight division
thumbup , can't wait, love it when there's plenty of boxing to look forwards to biggrin

benm3evo

383 posts

180 months

Thursday 20th November 2014
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dirty boy said:
Most are leaning with Clev' what's surprised me most is how much bigger he looks, he could actually be a real handful for Bellew, but I just fancy Bellew to step on Clev' and hurt him early on, proper 50/50 fight in my eyes.
Totally agree with this. I originally thought Bellew was much better suited at Cruiser & was leaning towards him but since watching the build up etc it looks like Clev has been working hard in the gym.

50/50 but I think Bellew might hurt him early & stop him in the middle rounds.

One thing for sure, should be a good night!

tuscaneer

7,738 posts

224 months

Thursday 20th November 2014
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another vote for a bellew stoppage. cleverly is undoubtedly a more varied boxer but I do believe that tony has better timing and power. I think the loss to kovalev damaged clev more than the loss to Stevenson damaged bellew.

bellew was a heavyweight as an amateur and was banging guys out with 12oz gloves and headgurds.

natural power. and in the words of tony himself........" I carreeyy powwwwwwer!!!!!!!!!!" ha!

tuscaneer

7,738 posts

224 months

Thursday 20th November 2014
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just peeled this off klitschko's facebook page...................history making is getting ever closer to , for me, the best heavyweight of them all in joe Louis.




The longest reigning champions in the history of boxing.

Joe Louis: 66-3, 52 KOs, KO'd 2x, 26-0 in title fights, 25 defenses, champ 11 years, 8 months, 8 days of 17-year career.

Wladimir Klitschko: 63-3, 54 KOs, KO'd 3x, 24-2 in title fights, 17 defenses, champ 8 years, 7 months in 18-year career (so far).

Joe Louis 50-4 as amateur, US AAU champ in 1934.
Wladimir 134-6 as amateur, 1996 Olympic super heavyweight gold medalist.

Joe Louis never fought an undefeated opponent in a title fight.
Wladimir has beaten an undefeated fighter in 4 of last 5 title fights and in 7 overall.

Louis retired at 37. Wladimir still dominant champ at 38.


Photo: The longest reigning champions in the history of boxing. Joe Louis: 66-3, 52 KOs, KO'd 2x, 26-0 in title fights, 25 defenses, champ 11 years, 8 months, 8 days of 17-year career. Wladimir Klitschko: 63-3, 54 KOs, KO'd 3x, 24-2 in title fights, 17 defenses, champ 8 years, 7 months in 18-year career (so far). Joe Louis 50-4 as amateur, US AAU champ in 1934. Wladimir 134-6 as amateur, 1996 Olympic super heavyweight gold medalist. Joe Louis never fought an undefeated opponent in a title fight. Wladimir has beaten an undefeated fighter in 4 of last 5 title fights and in 7 overall. Louis retired at 37. Wladimir still dominant champ at 38.

dirty boy

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14,688 posts

208 months

Thursday 20th November 2014
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Shame he never fought his brother laugh
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